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Pedants' corner

"Per say"

109 replies

squishee · 07/06/2021 09:27

I've just seen it on here yet again.
It should be 'per se', borrowed from the Latin.

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CatsBooksAndCoffee · 08/06/2021 06:22

@Nightbear

’It should be 'per se', borrowed from the Latin.’

It might evolve into Per-see. That’s pig Latin.

I’ll get my coat …

😂👋😂
newtb · 08/06/2021 06:37

Just seen a thread with breath instead of breathe!!

Had forgotten that one

MyOtherProfile · 08/06/2021 06:47

@Clymene

It's extraordinarily rude to correct someone else's grammar/pronunciation at the best of times. It is not 'very kind' to stop yourself doing it when you're giving someone a cancer diagnosis.
Interesting. I actually think it's not very kind to compound their mistake. I don't think the Dr should correct it but I do think they should model the correct word when they use it.
MyOtherProfile · 08/06/2021 06:49

@tribpot

Self-paste learning. Makes me wince just thinking about it.
I can't even think what this is supposed to be.
sashh · 08/06/2021 06:53

Why do we say words are 'borrowed from' Latin when they are Latin?

Because in linguistics they are called 'loan words' and they do not always correspond to the meaning in the original language eg panini is Italian for sandwichES, it is the plural of pannino and has nothing to do with grilled sandwiches.

When the words take on a slightly or not so slightly different meaning they become, "false friends" because we think we know the meaning in the original language.

Ect isn’t a word or an abbreviation of anything... logically it should autocorrect to the correct “etc”

ECT is electro convulsive therapy.

prettyvisitor · 08/06/2021 06:54

Well someone I know had to do themselves a torna K yesterday.

PhilCornwall1 · 08/06/2021 07:31

@TaVeryMuchLove

Can’t believe no one has mentioned pacific/specific yet.
I'm going to be stuck in a three hour meeting today with someone who is a pacific/pacifically user. I want to pull my own fingernails out!!!

One other, "advise/advice". Don't get me started on "could of", "should of" and "would of"!!!

MostlyNormalSometimesOdd · 08/06/2021 08:24

A waitress I worked with years ago used to say "Ciao" every day when she left work, at the end of phone calls etc.
I was alarmed and amused in equal measure they first time she sent a text message signed off with "CHOW"!!

campion · 08/06/2021 08:51

And if she stopped at the pie shop on the way, would that be “on” croûte?

I expect a kicking for starting a sentence with "and"

And yet it hasn't happened because it's a perfectly legitimate way to start a sentence.

UpTheJunktion · 08/06/2021 09:00

I have just written my shopping list and found myself writing a 'p' for the start of Sudocrem...probably an apt Freudian slip.

makingmyway10 · 08/06/2021 09:07

There is a paint tin left in my garage by the previous owners it has ‘On Sweet’ written on it ,makes me grit my teeth and simultaneously smile every time I see it! Grin

Lalliebelle · 08/06/2021 09:12

Drive passed the shops, as I read the other day.

AdditionalCharacter · 08/06/2021 09:23

I see rest bite (respite) used far too many times. It makes me wonder what they actually think it means. A little bite of rest?

OverByYer · 08/06/2021 09:29

People pronouncing coercive as ‘coHersive’ sets my teeth on edge

MintyCedric · 08/06/2021 09:34

@Sunbird24

I read something today where wonton was used instead of wanton. Twice.
Grin
ElizabethG81 · 08/06/2021 09:38

I saw a house on Right Move the other day, and the "pista resistance" was the swimming pool 😂

OverByYer · 08/06/2021 10:08

Pista Resistance! Fabulous

justwant2beamum · 08/06/2021 10:14

Defiantly when they mean definitely 🙄

SuperSecretSquirrels · 08/06/2021 10:30

The “specific/pacific” thing used to really irritate me until a linguist friend pointed out the mechanics of how it works in various dialects - essential that in some accents it is very difficult to say “sp”. Now I see it as a rather lovely indication of human variety.

Spelling mistakes I can’t get bothered about anyway, unless in a professional context, particularly when the person is showing good vocabulary but poor spelling.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 08/06/2021 10:38

@justwant2beamum

Defiantly when they mean definitely 🙄
That's usually a predictive test thing though. For some reason, despite the fact I definitely use the word definitely much more frequently than defiantly, my phone goes with defiantly every time.

A couple that bug me are using insure instead of ensure (I think I've lost the battle on that one) and using I instead of me.

I am striking back with the ensure/insure one though. My kids are all in uni and often get me to proofread. One of the tips I give them to reduce word count is to use ensure instead of make sure. The other one is that the vast majority of thats are unnecessary.

Oneearringlost · 08/06/2021 10:59

@campion

And if she stopped at the pie shop on the way, would that be “on” croûte?

I expect a kicking for starting a sentence with "and"

And yet it hasn't happened because it's a perfectly legitimate way to start a sentence.

"And" is a perfectly legitimate way to start a sentence, but it was inculcated in me, ( I'm 56) to never start a sentence with "And " or "But". I have dispensed with that long held belief and recognise the advantage and beauty of starting a sentence with "And". On another note... Someone on Zoom was reading from a text and actually substituted "lie" for "lay". So, in the context of " If you feel tired, go and lie down", she read out "If you feel tired, go and lay down". I had to take a few calming deep breaths...
Ormally · 08/06/2021 11:22

Pedastool.

Something you need to reach leaver arch files on high shelves.

UpTheJunktion · 08/06/2021 11:58

@SuperSecretSquirrels

The “specific/pacific” thing used to really irritate me until a linguist friend pointed out the mechanics of how it works in various dialects - essential that in some accents it is very difficult to say “sp”. Now I see it as a rather lovely indication of human variety.

Spelling mistakes I can’t get bothered about anyway, unless in a professional context, particularly when the person is showing good vocabulary but poor spelling.

Same here with ‘aksed’.

It seems most prevalent here amongst Jamaican people and the evolved south London patois.

UpTheJunktion · 08/06/2021 12:02

I associate ‘lay down’ rather than lie with accent. My Sheffield grandmother would have said have a lay down.

Our accents and dialects are so rich in this country, fine line between not wanting to see our language mangled by misunderstanding and lack of awareness, and snobbiness about dialects.

EducatingArti · 08/06/2021 12:03

Found it funny when a student talked about virtually opportunistic angles instead of virtually opposite ones!

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