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Is Teachers shouting at children .. child abuse

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Evelyn61 · 26/09/2009 18:21

My child's teacher shouts at her and has belittled her in class. She told her that she will not be trusted anymore.
I think it is very unprofessional and I also think that is it mental abuse. Can you give me any advice please

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Tortington · 26/09/2009 21:11

lots of 'lol' and !!!

also one liner teasers are the plaything of the bored

alwayslookingforanswers · 26/09/2009 21:11

whose daughters sound like thunder and lightening??

hocuspontas · 26/09/2009 21:12

I think evelyn61 and tutloltut are the same person. They both spelt 'pierced' as 'pieced'

tutloltut · 26/09/2009 21:12

how do you discipline your kids when there throwing/hitting/biting/kicking each other if they suddenly decide they're going to do it.

tutloltut · 26/09/2009 21:13

copy and paste is a wonderful tool

alwayslookingforanswers · 26/09/2009 21:15

depends on which child has committed the crime.

Naturally the punishment for a 2yr old is somewhat different than that for a 5 or 9yr old.

And they all react differently to different punishments (which is complicated when I'm tired and trying to remember which way I deal with which child).

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 26/09/2009 21:16

I don't have daughters.

alwayslookingforanswers · 26/09/2009 21:17

me neither oldlady -that's why I was wondering who she was talking to.

Goblinchild · 26/09/2009 21:23

I send mine to their rooms on occasion for reflection time.
So if you prefer, I'd phone you and tell you to take your daughter home for time out in her bedroom.
Naughty steps don't work in a school as they are likely to be trampled by Y6 and that seems a bit severe.
I also deprive them of treats and desserts, but we don't give those out in school either so that's a non-starter.
Of course now I also tell my 18 YO that if she doesn't like my rules she is at liberty to leave.

cory · 26/09/2009 21:41

I don't get your logic, Evelyn.

In your OP you ask if a teacher shouting at a child is child abuse.

In your post of 19:33 you say "of course I raise my voice at her"

are you a child abuser then, Evelyn? or is it only abuse when somebody else does it?

NestaFiesta · 05/10/2009 11:29

You can't immediately seek to blame the teacher- they have a job to do as well. Breaking skin with a pencil is serious and she should be reprimanded. I feel sorry for teachers sometimes, they must be afraid to breathe the wrong way!

whensmydayoff · 05/10/2009 14:21

I stopped reading after about 10 posts.
FFS, child abuse. I think child abuse is all of these namby pamby parents out there who don't want their children to deal with real life.
This kind of shit is why society in such a mess >getting dramatic now!
Cancelling sports days because it is unfair to the loosers? Teachers not allowed to repromand children without over indulgent parents crying 'child abuse'.
At this rate Evelyn, by the time she is 16 she will be made of glass.
First question is - "Why, what did you do"?
Reply should have been "well, that was irresponsible, don't do it again"
Followed by "Your teachers are the adults, you listen to them and behave and you will get on fine. End discussion.
This way, she might not think you will be there holding her hand for the rest of her life making everything better. She might just DEAL with it herself and cope better.

julesrose · 05/10/2009 14:34

Why do some people refuse to look at their child's behaviour and veer from 'it must have been an accident' to 'why wasn't there more supervision'. I've seen this a bit and it drives me mad. No child's perfect or pure evil but they all have their moments.
So no - not child abuse. Bad behaviour though.

Madsometimes · 06/10/2009 12:35

I have a 6 year old in year 2, also one of the youngest in the class. If she came home and told me that she had been shouted at because she had accidentally stabbed another child with a pencil, I would be backing up the teacher 100%.

Your little girl is only 6, so she cannot fully anticipate cause and effect. I fully accept that this incident was an accident, which she will learn from. Support her teachers, it will help her in the long run.

My dd missed some of her playtime yesterday because she was too slow getting her books out. She said that it was because she was getting a pencil and so did not have time. She thought it was unfair, but I backed up her teacher. Actually, she does not much like playtime, so it was not much of a punishment, but anyway...

Vivia · 07/10/2009 21:40

Genuine thought. I think, had Evelyn's daughter been the victim of the stabbing 'accident', that Evelyn would have been straight on here saying similar nonsense. 'Pure sunshine and delight attacked by pencil-wielding demon!'. Can you imagine how the victim's parent feels? Your daughter was told off : another child was stabbed to bleeding point BY your child so please grow up.

I must admit this thread is hilarious. I look forward to More Tales of Stabby McSpoiltBrat.

whensmydayoff · 09/10/2009 14:14

at Vivia, love it!

mosschops30 · 09/10/2009 14:23

I wonder if its the same poster who thought her mother was out of order for asking her dd to pick up DVD's she had thrown across the room

Why are people so quick to flame the adults these days and believe everything their 'ray of sunshine' tells them. When I was small you dreaded telling your parents youd been in trouble at school as youd be in more trouble, now you tell you parents and they make a scene/move you from the school/sue/start child abuse proceedings!!!! Has the world gone bonkers?

Bucharest · 09/10/2009 14:29

What annoys the bejaysus out of me with this kind of post (apart from the drip drip of information) is that on here, we see threads from parents who are truly going through hell because of appalling teachers/bullying which seems unstoppable, etc etc.

And then I find myself wasting half an hour when I could be being sympathetic or constructive on one of those threads having to hear how poor diddums got bollocked because she injured another child.

Grip. Get A.

Bucharest · 09/10/2009 14:31

But also at Vivia....can we coin the Stabby McSpoiltBrat for PFB threads?

piscesmoon · 09/10/2009 14:44

Parent's are not doing their DCs any favours if they try to make out that they are hard done by if they are reprimanded for causing physical harm to another DC. Work with the school-education should be a partnership.

Hulababy · 09/10/2009 14:46

Hmmm. I am a TA. I work in a Y1 class.

Earlier this week I raised my voice to a boy in my class who was being very silly in the tent (current role play area). He was jumping about inside, throwing some puppet stuff about and generally being too silly, ad not lplaying appropraitely int he tent. He was warnd and wnt back. However, he then did it again but this time managed to fall on top of another child, hurting her head and arm. He showed no remorse and continued with silly behaviour.

So yes, he was spoken to in a raised voice (I don't shout generally), over the noise of the play, and told that his play was not appropriate and that he would not be able to go back in the tent until he could be trusted to play nicely with the other children. He was told that at that time he could not be trusted to play sensible and he needed to find a different activity to be busy at.

This is NOT child abuse.

It is discipline in a busy classroom - discipline that is required to ensure all children in the class are able to play safely around one another.

Hulababy · 09/10/2009 14:48

And yes - even with a sharp pencil - it would take a fair bit of pressure to pierce the skin. It couldn't be done just by a gentle prod. It would have to be pressure being applied.

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