Is Teachers shouting at children .. child abuse

[Evelyn61]

My child's teacher shouts at her and has belittled her in class. She told her that she will not be trusted anymore.
I think it is very unprofessional and I also think that is it mental abuse. Can you give me any advice please

You're quite right. There is no scale to this at all. No shades of grey. One either discusses calmly and in a quiet voice or one screams, shouts and humiliates. There is nothing in between

the problem is the amoutn of "little darlings" and the perceptions of "little darlings' parents" that their children should be in a consultative, therapeutic and loving environment at all times where each transgession we look for a reason like low self-esteem or anxiety disorder.

They're children, who misbehave, challenge, learn and grow. They need boundaries and a raised voice will not kill them.

You can see it in school reports in their positive couching of comments when you know damn well they mean this kid is lazy, that kid talks to much

The order of the day is to be surprised when a Y2 child stabs another one.
The accusations of shouting and screaming and humiliation are been thrown around by an interested party who seems more bothered about her child being possibly reprimanded severely than injuring another child.
I know some teachers who raise their voice.
Those that lose the plot on a regular basis then tend to lose their job. It is also unclear whether this was a teacher or a TA who shouted.

I'm not particularly convinced that anyone actually shouted.

Shouting at a child and saying they can't be trusted given that they've just stuck a pencil in the arm of another child is hardly humiliating them.

We only have the word of a 6 year old caught doing wrong, after all.

I do live next to the school - literally next to the school. I can hear lessons in the hall, library, occasional one of the YR1 classes (depending on if both the reception and library door are opened at the same time), plus can hear what is going on in the craft area for reception (which is shared by both classes), and can hear what goes on on the 2 (covered) outdoor play areas that the reception use during normal school time).

from what i gather ... evelyn wasn't justifying her child's actions more to the point the teachers. I think the education system is failing our children dismally. If the teacher had been supervising her class the incident would never have happened in the first place.
I'd hate you lot to be my judge and jury!!!!!

Perhaps the child is subject to abuse at home where inflicting pain is used as a method of discipline.
Or the parents regularly leave hypodermics around and so she thought authenticity in play meant there had to be blood?
Let's look for the underlying significance of the act, the response and the response to the response and the reporting of the reaction to the action and then the perception of the report of the reaction to the action....
Everything would be so much clearer then.

alwayslookingforanswers ... leads an interesting life lol

Evelyn claimed her child is perfect, and yes, she did try to excuse her daughter. Repeatedly. A 6 year old should not have to be closely supervised when using a pencil.

oh Goblin you mean the OP is a serious drug user?

excellent leap for a Saturday night - get in there girl

PMSL @ the thought that if the class was supervised properly it would never have happened.

You must only have one child surely with a comment like that.

Nothing on this planet stops my DS's suddenly throwing/hitting/biting/kicking each other if they suddenly decide they're going to do it.

Generally children tend not to warn you they're going to do it - they just attack (for want of a better word) and then you have to deal with the consequences after.

And guess what - even with your own children that sometimes involves raised voices. Doesn't mean I scream and shout at them (well not all of the time ) but yes I get cross with them.

how on earth is a teacher suppose to stop a child from stabbing another with a pencil. Is she supposed to launch herself across the class room slomo style just as the pencil is supposed to enter the arm.
Or even better ban children from having pencils altogether.

Kids couldn't stab each other in the days of chalk and slate.

yes I do lead an intersting life - I don't have to try to listen to what's going on in the school, it's just there - that's what happens when the reception children play literally on the other side of your wall (with the door to the craft area approx 2 metres from the wall), the library and hal are on other side of the other wall - again with no more than about 2 metres between wall and door - and the children line up there for assembly and lunch daily.

if your dd had been shouted at disciplined a wee bit more maybe she would not be stabbing peers aged 6

In my school, SLT would say it was because the lesson wasn't planned well enough....

I tell you what - is most cringeworthy though when you're in the garden with your 2yr (who is making lots of noise so you know the teacher on the other side of the wall knows you're there) and you suddenly here your own child being told to behave .

think you guy's have made a mountain out of a mo hill hehe. she said they were playing doctors ... could have been her child that was think she said pieced but you guy's prefer Stabbed with pencil. she also said her daughter was a ray of sunshine ... does it bother you, someone actually thinking highly of there child?

Whatever happened to badly behaved children being told off by the school and the school being backed up by the parents?

Mumble chops - my sentiments exactle.

For goodness sake. Your DD did something wrong and was reprimanded for it. You should be asking our child what she did to deserve that telling off and back the teacher.

I thoroughly dislike parents who are always running up to the school to confront the teachers because their precious little DD/DS got told off.

If I was told off at school/shouted at/made to stand in a corner and told my parents then the responce I got was 'well you probably deserved it didn't you?' Children generally don't get told off at school for no reason.

When they think so highly of her that they are blind to her naughtiness, yes. We wonder what the child is allowed to get away with, what is considered acceptable at home, if stabbing another child with a pencil is dismissed as unimportant, and a teacher disciplining the child is described as an abuser. That's making a mountain out of a molehill, and it could have serious consequences.

your daughters sound like thunder and lighting may be thats why you reacted so to the comment sunshine and lol

Think tutloltut is Evelyn's daughter

periced/stabbed - doesn't make any difference - if she managed to break through the skin with a pencil it was done very hard.

And I think if anyone is making a mountain out of a molehill it's the OP - her daughter did something she shouldn't of done (no child is perfect you know), she was told off (rightly) and the OP is now claiming that the TA (or teacher?) shouts and screams all the time.