you have a n ethical/financial/ social standpoint against Macdonalds?

[Tortington]

i saw one mumsnetter openly anounce that her kid had a happy meal and wondered.

no, i am being serious in asking this question - maybe mn isn';t as arsey as it used to be - i dunno

i certainly try not to go in maccy D's becuase its killing the planet and taking over the world.

howver it does the best coffee imo - kenco - so not baby killer.

what say you

i am sure there is an argument about the shitey ingrediants etc.

what is the mn collective view of maccy D's these days?

my memories of eating McD's in my teens left me refusing to ever go there again unless starving. Horrible.

I occasionally have a wimpy (usually on a 3hr+ journey on the motorway, max 2x a year) and even more occasionally a burger king (usually on waterloo cos it's the only place left open by that time,

You still get Wimpy? Wow! Haven't seen one for years.

yep, there's one in my town, just been refurbished with kool furniture to attract more yoof. It's working too!

we have a wimpy too. shite coffee.

I shamefacedly admit to getting McD's cravings. A double cheese burger with bacon, and small French fries (chips). My comfort food when I'm starving and it's been a crap day.

Someone lent me a book called "Fast Food Nation" last year and while it was fascinating, I had to stop reading it because I didn't want to suffer pangs of guilt for indulging my one bad food habit which hits once a month. For the same reason I couldn't watch "SuperSize Me".

But I always use the drive-through because I'm embarrassed to go in and perhaps meet someone I know - which I know is ridiculous, after all, they're there, too!!! - and once, when the drive-through cashier was someone I knew, I cringed in embarrassmant and didn't go back to that particular McD's until I heard she wasn't there anymore.

Am I a terrible hypocrite???

The reason I don't go to McDonalds is that they do not allow their staff to join a union.

In fact they closed down a Mcdonalds in America where the staff tried, sacked them all and then opened up another 50 yards away.

I can't think of anything worse than not allowing your staff to join a union.

I haven't eaten it since I read about somebody who, for reasons buried deep in the undergraduate brain, put a Big Mac in the attic of his student house. When he moved out three years later, it looked exactly the same.

It's not an ethical objection - I happily snaffle Pret-a-Manger (I think McD's owns a big stake in Pret). I just don't like the taste. I wouldn't give it to DD myself but equally I wouldn't go apeshit if somewhere down the line someone gave her a Happy Meal.

I've always( when money allows)fed my family ethically (organic,fairtrade,local,free range etc) and very healthily (no e-numbers,sweetners etc).

When they were tiny I was fanatical about what they ate,over the years I've let go bit by bit as I think it's an important part of developing healthy attitudes to food.

They have their Saturday sweet money,fish and chips at school on Friday and the occasional McDonalds on a journey or bought by grandma & grandad(about twice a year). They obviously have homemade/ nice shop cakes & biscuits after school and as treats etc. Sweets & popcorn at the cinema etc. They have a balanced diet with lots of fruit & veg(when I can get it into them) and I think treats are part and parcel of it. They never nag for sweets and Mcdonalds as they're not forbidden.

They actually find the chips too salty(I'm amazed McDonalds seem incapable of producing non salty chips)so leave half of them. They know too many Mcdonalds are bad for you and makes you poorly(I don't like talking about being fat in a critical way so stick to the feely poorly stance)but enjoy them when they have them(the toy in particular).

I'd be lying if I said I enjoyed seeing them eating them I do wince a bit but they're kids and eating crap now and again is ok for us all.

On an ethical point I don't know enough. My 3 have the organic milk or water(they don't like fizzy drinks)and don't like burgers so they have the chicken Mcnuggets which I'm presuming are freerange. I think I read they're 100% chicken now. I really need to become better informed,As I personally only buy them once a year I haven't researched a lot into it. If they were eating them weekly I would.

Off to do some googling

We get a Maccy D's now and again, we never usually eat in but get something to take home, its usually DS's choice after a grueling hospital stay.

We have to get 2 Happy meals as we have 2 kids so one gets fries one gets Grapes and Apples or Carrotts and they split half and half so they never get a full portion of Fries. They have Fish Fingers and MIlk or Water.

I know its not healthy but they have a balanced good diet so im not worried about the odd Mc Donalds.

I do love a Mc Chicken Sandwich though......... also a Spicy Veggie deli sandwich on Wholemeal. Yum

Saying that though, did anyone here about the girl who got Herpes from a Big Mac? I know her it was investigated and one of the workers had ejaculated in the food? God knows why, that brance was shut down for years.....

Burger King are better IMO, you can't beat a double bacon cheese burger.

In answer to the OP, yes, yes and yes. And an aesthetic one!

In answer to the title. I should do (have seen/read the relevant books), but can't be arsed to.

It's something I'll eat every now and then, not often. Perhaps if I'm out shopping (rare) and need something quick to eat. Dd (21mo) has fish fingers, a fruit bag (instead of fries) and some milk if we ever go in. All things she would eat and drink at home tbh.

I think it's ok to eat it as a treat iykwim? It's not somehting I'd eat often, not somthing I'd want to encourage my dd to eat often either. But every now and then as a treat, I don't see the harm.