you have a n ethical/financial/ social standpoint against Macdonalds?

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i saw one mumsnetter openly anounce that her kid had a happy meal and wondered.

no, i am being serious in asking this question - maybe mn isn';t as arsey as it used to be - i dunno

i certainly try not to go in maccy D's becuase its killing the planet and taking over the world.

howver it does the best coffee imo - kenco - so not baby killer.

what say you

i am sure there is an argument about the shitey ingrediants etc.

what is the mn collective view of maccy D's these days?

We go once evry couple of months, i love big macs

the kids are happy with the toy and a fruit shoot

Like some others, i have more pressing things to worry about than a burger and chips!

oooooh yes sausage and egg mcmuffin

I love big macs ..best hangover cure by miles

Damn. Now I want a sausage and egg mcmuffin too...

I don't mind the toys now they've dropped the link with Disney. Was too much of a film promo thing before. Last week, DS got a gorilla and information about them in the wild. Was that a film thing?

funny thing i heard a rumour mcd's was funding israel. so what with the ira and al qaeda the do fund alot of controversial causes for a burger joint

I heard they have a share in fruitshoots...

I heard they had a share in greggs

Don't like it - don't like the ethics, and don't like the food. I love burgers, chips, etc, but McD stuff is all soft and flabby and essentially tasteless - I want burgers to be thick and actually taste of meat, and bread to be a bit chewy, and not like pap, etc. There was an article in Punch years and years ago where they tried to recreate a big Mac, and found they had to mince the meat to pulp to get the right texture. Blerg.

But will admit a craving for BK spicy beanburgers. wish i could reproduce these at home.

Ta Custardo!nothing like a tub of tub thumping to remind us we like McD.

I used to love a big mac. However, I am now enlightened and don't eat meat anymore
The kids love McDs for the toys but I don't take them anymore. dh loves a mcDs but has to go it alone when he is at work.
My objections

they buy their produce from one or two main suppliers and have thus run many small farmers out of business here and in the US.

the staff are treated like shite, and
respond by not giving a toss about their work

the food is full of shite and leads to obesity,

i hate the marketing towards children, although i notice this is getting stricter and beginning to revolve around carrot sticks

as far as corporate globalised bullshit goes they are top of the league
they have basically invented pester power, how many of us have seen small children screaming outside McDonalds? I rest my case

They are also really hot on legal action
so
(Disclaimer: all of this is my own personal opinion. Mumsnet should not be held responsible for any statements madeby me)

i don't eat there, the boys have never eaten there. (we don't do burger king/kfc et al either)

1. the food is shit, I contacted them once about them defining 100% beef patties and they informed me that beef did not have to refer to meat, just to the animal type that the product came from
2. they have no regard for anything except for profit - they are readily encouraging farmers to cut down swathes of forested land to grow beef.
3. my teacher showed us a video in 1987 about how Macdonalds et al made their burgers and it made me vomit, seeing a pile of meat go one path and the leftovers going the other way to make the beef patty.

I know they appear to be trying to adapt to the market by introducing fruit bags and water to happy meals, and the adverts about the chicken and stuff is all in the right direction but I still don't intend to go there.

As others have said this is why I won't go there.

oh oh oh. and they are the biggest buyyers of palm oil. you know, the crop the indonesian rainforest is being hacked down for. So they can also shoulder the respnsibility of driming orang utans to extinction.
I LOVE orang utans

maybe you're right custardo.
how disappointing.

Thanks have been on a diet for 2 months, am now gagging for a big mac!

I am really surprised that grown adults actually like the taste of this stuff.

I will never admit to being a grown adult

Yes I'm disappointed in myself as well - only this afternoon i found myself mulling over a sherbet fountain...and me a grown adult.

gemmie - that was a bit full on and slightly ridiculous - but I wont be drawn in to be an apologist for them though however histrionic and ridiculous their knockers are (ooer, I said knockers)

Though I did take offence at the notion that all their staff dont give a shit about their job - unless you've spoken to them all that is of course. Some people are able to take pride in jobs that you would see as beneath you shock horror.

Can't beat a McDonalds, esp. after a night out! I have no issue with it, may be different if I found out something sinister about them (like Nestle). My financial standpoint though is how do they provide a burger, chips, a drink, packaging and a toy for £2 odd? But I am not fussed if my DS has it - he eats great most the time blah blah blah...

I'd rather the sugar in normal coke though than the sweetners in Diet.

oh god sherbert fountains - foul

sherbert lemons and you're talking

it is snobby to demean a job just because it isnt fair trade commune.

McD
pays rent
fills fridge
legit and legal

We always look out for the M sign in foreign cities so we can use the toilet!

DS has happy meals every few weeks or so, he likes the toys. I eat them occasionally in the school hols, can take or leave them.

I do buy ethically farmed produce and cook from scratch mostly at home, but you can get a bit obsessive about things.

MacDonalds are crap.

My DC have made it to adult-hood without ever having eaten this shit.

We do love pizza hut though

We go to Maccy D's about once a fortnight. My DD loves it. As long as it isn't in excessive, I don't see the problem.