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MIL wants DS to spend half the summer holiday overseas with her... AIBU?

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TheWheelsFellOffButWeCarriedOn · 09/06/2026 23:31

Not sure what to do - probably looking for support and a sense check mostly. My husband is from overseas. We have a 6 yo DS. He bed shares and has never spent a night away from us. He has slept in a different room in the same house fewer times than I have fingers on one hand (always with other family members). My MIL, who at this point I think is barking mad btw, mentioned to DH that she would be happy to fly over to pick up DS and take him back to spend time with her and FIL. DS has visited their house a few times over the years but of course never without us, his parents. I knew this was a discussion in the background and had made some passing comments about someone needing to be in the (i.e. DH) if there were any issues, mentioned MIL could of course stay here, questioned about DH also going out for some of the time and assumed this would be part of any plan. Anyway today it was peacefully dropped on me that MIL is planning on picking up DS a week before the summer holiday starts (so he will be off school for a full two months) and to bring him back over three weeks later. I was stunned to be honest. Firstly, the idea that he would be taken out of school for his last week with his friends and with such a long summer holiday anyway just seems unfair and counter productive for DS. Then also the time - more than 3 weeks... he is 6. We have booked a weekend away already during this time, so that is to be moved or cancelled. I said to DH, in my taken aback and processing the wft-ery of it all - that he would need to be able to go out to PILs during this time period at any point in case DS needed him and wanted to come home. To which my DH seemed to think it was a problem that I suggested this was something he should do, and he thought that I should be able to do this (note I am self-employed, equal if not greater bread-winner and will lose money, clients and reputation just ditching things last minute). It then descended into an argument about me not supporting that his family live far away in another country and he never sees them and he made comparisons to people we know who have family overseas in Europe. I don't know if I am being unreasonable here, but flying 2-3 hours to Europe is entirely different to where my ILs live - no direct flights from our nearest city, it requires travelling door to door for c.20 hours and is not a cheap flight. MIL speaks no English. FIL speaks basic English but works and I presume will be out most of the time working so DS will be with someone as his primary carer during this time with a significant language barrier. He understands the language ok-ish but doesn't speak it confidently. I just think this is all about my MIL and nothing about what is right for DS. I don't think he should miss a week of school, I don't think he will cope for over 3 weeks away from us and I think at the very least one of us (i.e. DH) should be there for a significant chunk of the time he is there. I don't get the urgency that it has to be this summer, I don't get why MIL cannot come out to stay with us, I don't like that she has just communicated with DH about this and I have been given a fait accompli, with no one asking me at any point what i think about length of time and taking DS out of school. I think it is self-serving madness from MIL. I don't tend to have an issue with her but we don't have a common language so I don't really know her or have a real sense of what kind of person she is because of those language and cultural nuances which I cannot pick up on. But this has really made me question her a lot because what kind of a grandparent would want to take their DGS out of school for a week, would think it was realistic a 6 yo could be away from their parents for 3 weeks having never even spent a night away from them before, and who would agree all this with their son and not once think to ask if "mum" (i.e. me) thought it was a good idea and was on board. We have talked about DS being able to spend time over the summer in this country when he is older (and will have a better grasp on the language and have better self care etc), but 6yo... it's just too young. AIBU?
So as not to drip feed, PIL are generally fine, but they don't live in a country that prioritises health and safety and I know they only use a car seat when we are there because of me. I have no confidence there will be consistent use of car seats without me there. They also don't get the importance of suncream for DS skin. Teeth brushing won't happen consistently. Routine won't happen. Sitting in front of the TV for hours a day will happen becaue there is not so much else to do. Not sure they are particularly good at getting DS's food needs (ARFID). MIL is a little overbearing IMHO and will do what she thinks is right rather than what is right for another person. And so this is not a major drip feed, FIL is currenly recovering from major surgery, has some signs of cognitive decline and suffers from what appears to be undiagnosed PTSD or some other form of mental health condition which leads to distressed and disturbed sleep (shouting out and screaming during the night). PIL have a fractious relationship, with several breakups over the years (lasting for about a week or so - just seems immature but I also don't really know what is going on there), their respective families don't appear to get on, GGPs are still alive, there are countless aunties and uncles but very few children of DS age for him to socialise with. They do reckless and irresponsible things, like buying a rabbit because they think DS will like to play with it when we visit, but then they don't look after it properly so it dies because it gets too cold at night, same with the caged birds and they also bought chickens for him to play with, but I don't think really worry too closely about washing hands and bird poop all over the garden etc. In a nutshell I don't trust them to provide proper care to DS at this age and think he needs to be older to spend this amount of time with them alone not just because of home sickness etc, but so that PIL's caring abilities aren't so much of an issue as he will be able to take better care of himself. But again, AIBU? When families live apart like this is it something I should just suck up? I think the thing that hits the most is that I haven't been asked about this and just expected to go along with it, as though such a significant parenting decision can be determined by one parent unilaterally. I just think MIL is mad for thinking this is a good idea as well - I think she is the one driving and proposing it all as DH raised it as something MIL "wanted" to do. And I can forsee the, "you have a DH problem" comments. I absolutely have a DH problem. I shouldn't have to tell him that my view on this should have been front and centre of any discussions about the actual logistics and timings. But he is not speaking to me because I don't understand or support enough that his family are overseas so I cannot have a sensible conversation with him. Am I the mad one here? Is there another side to this that I need to be more understanding of?

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ConstanzeMozart · 10/06/2026 11:26

The part I have a problem with is it being presented to you as a fait accompli and then your DH pulling out the emotional manipulation when you raised objections.

anyolddinosaur · 10/06/2026 11:44

Your husband is mad. I thought this was going to be about a teenager but no parent in their right mind sends a 6 year old away for 3 weeks when they cant even communicate fully with the people they'd stay with. When it's an extremely long journey if something went wrong then they can wait until they are a teenager.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 10/06/2026 12:13

No way I would allow this at 6

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DaisyDooley · 10/06/2026 13:11

No.
No way.
Personally I would shred his passport/s and seek legal advice.

starfishmummy · 10/06/2026 13:18

This would be a big fat NO from me. If necessary (and Id think it is) you should secretly get his passport out if the house asap - give it to a trusted friend/destroy it - so that he cannot go!

Substance · 10/06/2026 15:43

Isitholidayyet · 10/06/2026 09:20

Yes the whole idea is mad but you are doing him no favours babying him as you are. At 6 he certainly doesn’t need to be sharing a bed with you and should have some experience of you not being around. I’m not saying he should be going off to another country as a first attempt but I do find it strange that he hasn’t even had one night without you. Suggest they fly over and take him for a few days somewhere within the uk?

Yes. OP says that even on the extremely rare occasions the son has slept outside her bed (less than five times in his life) another family member has slept with him. Reading between the lines, I wonder if this whole co-sleeping, babying, smothering thing is part of what is motivating the husband to have his parents take the child for a few weeks.....? Still completely wrong and unacceptable of OH to be setting this up without OP's agreement, of course.

Substance · 10/06/2026 15:44

ConstanzeMozart · 10/06/2026 11:26

The part I have a problem with is it being presented to you as a fait accompli and then your DH pulling out the emotional manipulation when you raised objections.

Yes exactly.

RedRock41 · 10/06/2026 18:22

Absolutely not ok. Young children feel traumatised being away from parents so long, especially in a strange place could actually cause your DS a lot of distress however enthusiastic he is in theory. DS shouldn’t even It would be a deal breaker for me and I’d be willing to separate rather than have my DS be away 3 weeks. Plus who’s to say your MIL wouldn’t undermine you further and more drip feeding about him moving there etc?

Sassylovesbooks · 10/06/2026 18:26

Substance · 10/06/2026 15:43

Yes. OP says that even on the extremely rare occasions the son has slept outside her bed (less than five times in his life) another family member has slept with him. Reading between the lines, I wonder if this whole co-sleeping, babying, smothering thing is part of what is motivating the husband to have his parents take the child for a few weeks.....? Still completely wrong and unacceptable of OH to be setting this up without OP's agreement, of course.

I actually wondered this too! Unless there is something else going on here, that the OP hasn't told us about, then the average 6 year old should be able to sleep in their own bed and room by themselves. A 6 year old shouldn't need to be co-sleeping with a parent. The OP isn't doing her son any favours by allowing this situation to continue. I wonder if the OP's husband feels that the OP is smothering and mollycoddling their son, and not allowing him to grow up.

Of course, the husband trying to force the situation by sending his son to his parents for 3 weeks is insane. It's not in his son's best interest at all. The son doesn't sleep in his own bed, or bedroom, has never spent time away from his parents (other than school) and has never slept away from home. It's not the poor child's fault, that he's not doing those things. Those changes need to be introduced gradually, over a period of time.

The OP's husband's suggestion of their son staying with his parents over a proportion of the holiday, isn't an unreasonable request in the future. I wonder if the OP's husband is Brazilian, as this is a common arrangement within their culture.

RedRock41 · 10/06/2026 18:27

Substance · 10/06/2026 15:43

Yes. OP says that even on the extremely rare occasions the son has slept outside her bed (less than five times in his life) another family member has slept with him. Reading between the lines, I wonder if this whole co-sleeping, babying, smothering thing is part of what is motivating the husband to have his parents take the child for a few weeks.....? Still completely wrong and unacceptable of OH to be setting this up without OP's agreement, of course.

Really good points.

ThatNewMoose · 10/06/2026 21:16

Absolutely not, crazy idea.
Your husband seems happy to offer your son up for weeks of dysfunction, confusion and lack of structure so as not to upset his mother.
Withing 2 hours of your son arriving he will be wanting you, crazy idea, your husband is an ass.
Firmly put your foot down, they should not have organised behind your back either

GrandmasCat · 10/06/2026 21:22

Having been in the same position and from a culture where it is not unheard off for children to spend all the summer with grandma while the parents are working, I have said absolutely fucking not.

Your case is worse than mine though:

  • They did not even ask what did you think about it, why would they care about your views if they decide to keep him there?
  • Your husband isn’t even checking with you, what makes you think he will advocate for you and your child if he cannot even involve you in the decision.
  • They are already not putting the child first, grandma can find cheaper flights during the school term so your child must not be allowed to complete the school year.

if I were you, and you have reasonable, sensible family or friends to move to temporarily, stomp your foot down, contact Reunite.org.uk and don’t let the kid off your sight in the dates around the planned flights, especially if your child is a girl and her dad comes from a culture where children marriage arrangements are at all possible.

M103 · 10/06/2026 22:42

It's cultural. I'm from South Europe and it is common for kids to spend all summer with their grandparents when young and most kids love it. This is more common when kids are young rather than older (eg.teenagers) as kids enjoy it more when younger (being spoilt by granda trumps spending summer in various camps, but not hanging out with your teenage mates). I myself had left my eldest with grandparents abroad for 3 weeks when they were 5 and they had a great time (admittedly I took ttem tgere and wevsoentvtwo weeks all together begore I left).
However, the fact that your husband is arranging this without consulting you and that he expects you to leave everything and go fetch your son if something goes wrong is beyond infuriating. I would not agree in your case either. Also, about missing the last day of school.

BumblePan · 10/06/2026 23:10

Absolutely No. You are the parent, MIL does not overrule you.
If MIL wants to take HER son for a few weeks, that's not a problem.

saraclara · Yesterday 02:24

BumblePan · 10/06/2026 23:10

Absolutely No. You are the parent, MIL does not overrule you.
If MIL wants to take HER son for a few weeks, that's not a problem.

MIL's son is the parent, too.

This problem is between OP and her DH. It should have been discussed and he was wrong to give his mum permission without talking to his wife.

glaciercherry · Yesterday 02:30

No parent can take a child out of the country against their other parent’s wishes unless there is a court order in place.

So you can stop him from leaving the country if it comes to that.

But more importantly there are clearly broader issues here if your DH has thought it acceptable to do this. It would be splitsville for me.

FairKoala · Yesterday 03:05

BlackRowan · 10/06/2026 01:45

It’s totally normal in some cultures. I used to spend half the summer with my grandparents since I was about 6. Find memories. My parents didn’t have the time off so they visited from time to time.

i understand that Britain is a country of cold detached grandparents but please try to understand that it’s not a personal insult to you to suggest that

These grandparents can’t even look after a rabbit.
If a rabbit can die of neglect what chance this little boy surviving intact for 4 weeks.

Just because your grandparents were lovely people who knew how to look after you doesn’t mean every grandparent is the same.

redteapot · Yesterday 03:15

Absolutely not! You must stand your ground on this OP. My daughter is 6 and I couldn't imagine this for her.
If your DH and MIL persist, I would make sure that they cannot access your son's passport.

Imenti · Yesterday 04:27

Absolutely not! My son from the age of 5 has done a few days away camping with close family (who all speak the same language) in the same county. He lasts about 3 days before he starts missing us and as we're so close we're able to pop over for a couple of evenings to see him. He's with his cousins who he loves and has the best time but he's not going this year (now 8) as they are going a few hours away and it's just too far. This is an absolute no from me. The language, the distance, the bed share. What if there was an emergency and you're a day away!

Fernticket · Yesterday 12:24

Hide your DS passport!
I would worry that they might decide to keep him over there longer or worse!

Dogmum6 · Yesterday 17:56

No no and no. He is your responsibility, your job to keep him safe, fed etc and it's your say. I would absolutely be putting my foot down here. He has to understand surely that you gave birth and it's your job to keep bim
safe always?

JJMama · Yesterday 17:57

Couldn’t even read all this - why is he going when you don’t want him to? You’re his parent and you get to make the choices, not your in laws!

No Way my children would’ve been taken from me for this long to another country without me. Also, they wouldn’t miss school.

You must stand up to them and stop their asinine actions.

Askingforafriendtoday · Yesterday 18:04

No way!

Jellybubbamama0987 · Yesterday 18:16

I’ve seen too many crime documentaries to let ANYONE take my child out of the country without me. No is a complete sentence

Khayker · Yesterday 18:20

Sorry to put this question but I have to ask, your DH isn't thinking of leaving you, going back to his country and this is how hes planning to take DS with him is he?