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MIL wants DS to spend half the summer holiday overseas with her... AIBU?

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TheWheelsFellOffButWeCarriedOn · 09/06/2026 23:31

Not sure what to do - probably looking for support and a sense check mostly. My husband is from overseas. We have a 6 yo DS. He bed shares and has never spent a night away from us. He has slept in a different room in the same house fewer times than I have fingers on one hand (always with other family members). My MIL, who at this point I think is barking mad btw, mentioned to DH that she would be happy to fly over to pick up DS and take him back to spend time with her and FIL. DS has visited their house a few times over the years but of course never without us, his parents. I knew this was a discussion in the background and had made some passing comments about someone needing to be in the (i.e. DH) if there were any issues, mentioned MIL could of course stay here, questioned about DH also going out for some of the time and assumed this would be part of any plan. Anyway today it was peacefully dropped on me that MIL is planning on picking up DS a week before the summer holiday starts (so he will be off school for a full two months) and to bring him back over three weeks later. I was stunned to be honest. Firstly, the idea that he would be taken out of school for his last week with his friends and with such a long summer holiday anyway just seems unfair and counter productive for DS. Then also the time - more than 3 weeks... he is 6. We have booked a weekend away already during this time, so that is to be moved or cancelled. I said to DH, in my taken aback and processing the wft-ery of it all - that he would need to be able to go out to PILs during this time period at any point in case DS needed him and wanted to come home. To which my DH seemed to think it was a problem that I suggested this was something he should do, and he thought that I should be able to do this (note I am self-employed, equal if not greater bread-winner and will lose money, clients and reputation just ditching things last minute). It then descended into an argument about me not supporting that his family live far away in another country and he never sees them and he made comparisons to people we know who have family overseas in Europe. I don't know if I am being unreasonable here, but flying 2-3 hours to Europe is entirely different to where my ILs live - no direct flights from our nearest city, it requires travelling door to door for c.20 hours and is not a cheap flight. MIL speaks no English. FIL speaks basic English but works and I presume will be out most of the time working so DS will be with someone as his primary carer during this time with a significant language barrier. He understands the language ok-ish but doesn't speak it confidently. I just think this is all about my MIL and nothing about what is right for DS. I don't think he should miss a week of school, I don't think he will cope for over 3 weeks away from us and I think at the very least one of us (i.e. DH) should be there for a significant chunk of the time he is there. I don't get the urgency that it has to be this summer, I don't get why MIL cannot come out to stay with us, I don't like that she has just communicated with DH about this and I have been given a fait accompli, with no one asking me at any point what i think about length of time and taking DS out of school. I think it is self-serving madness from MIL. I don't tend to have an issue with her but we don't have a common language so I don't really know her or have a real sense of what kind of person she is because of those language and cultural nuances which I cannot pick up on. But this has really made me question her a lot because what kind of a grandparent would want to take their DGS out of school for a week, would think it was realistic a 6 yo could be away from their parents for 3 weeks having never even spent a night away from them before, and who would agree all this with their son and not once think to ask if "mum" (i.e. me) thought it was a good idea and was on board. We have talked about DS being able to spend time over the summer in this country when he is older (and will have a better grasp on the language and have better self care etc), but 6yo... it's just too young. AIBU?
So as not to drip feed, PIL are generally fine, but they don't live in a country that prioritises health and safety and I know they only use a car seat when we are there because of me. I have no confidence there will be consistent use of car seats without me there. They also don't get the importance of suncream for DS skin. Teeth brushing won't happen consistently. Routine won't happen. Sitting in front of the TV for hours a day will happen becaue there is not so much else to do. Not sure they are particularly good at getting DS's food needs (ARFID). MIL is a little overbearing IMHO and will do what she thinks is right rather than what is right for another person. And so this is not a major drip feed, FIL is currenly recovering from major surgery, has some signs of cognitive decline and suffers from what appears to be undiagnosed PTSD or some other form of mental health condition which leads to distressed and disturbed sleep (shouting out and screaming during the night). PIL have a fractious relationship, with several breakups over the years (lasting for about a week or so - just seems immature but I also don't really know what is going on there), their respective families don't appear to get on, GGPs are still alive, there are countless aunties and uncles but very few children of DS age for him to socialise with. They do reckless and irresponsible things, like buying a rabbit because they think DS will like to play with it when we visit, but then they don't look after it properly so it dies because it gets too cold at night, same with the caged birds and they also bought chickens for him to play with, but I don't think really worry too closely about washing hands and bird poop all over the garden etc. In a nutshell I don't trust them to provide proper care to DS at this age and think he needs to be older to spend this amount of time with them alone not just because of home sickness etc, but so that PIL's caring abilities aren't so much of an issue as he will be able to take better care of himself. But again, AIBU? When families live apart like this is it something I should just suck up? I think the thing that hits the most is that I haven't been asked about this and just expected to go along with it, as though such a significant parenting decision can be determined by one parent unilaterally. I just think MIL is mad for thinking this is a good idea as well - I think she is the one driving and proposing it all as DH raised it as something MIL "wanted" to do. And I can forsee the, "you have a DH problem" comments. I absolutely have a DH problem. I shouldn't have to tell him that my view on this should have been front and centre of any discussions about the actual logistics and timings. But he is not speaking to me because I don't understand or support enough that his family are overseas so I cannot have a sensible conversation with him. Am I the mad one here? Is there another side to this that I need to be more understanding of?

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Greengage1983 · 10/06/2026 09:56

Isitholidayyet · 10/06/2026 09:20

Yes the whole idea is mad but you are doing him no favours babying him as you are. At 6 he certainly doesn’t need to be sharing a bed with you and should have some experience of you not being around. I’m not saying he should be going off to another country as a first attempt but I do find it strange that he hasn’t even had one night without you. Suggest they fly over and take him for a few days somewhere within the uk?

This would be a great compromise to get him used to the idea.

Blueblell · 10/06/2026 09:58

You have to say he is too young this year MIL maybe in the future he will love to come and stay with you in the summer holidays but right now he is too young.

Husaria · 10/06/2026 09:59

I don't know what country we are talking about but I'm from Eastern Europe and it's kind of normal for us to drop our kids start of summer holidays and my mom flies in with them end of August. I think people here are too overprotective of their kids. As a child I did play with chickens and swam in all kinds of dirty puddles and swamps, rode my bike on the hills speeding and fell off many times, took out the sleighs and skis in winter, skid on frozen ponds, etc. I'm trying to give my kids similar experiences, because from what I see the English helicopter parenting is just making them anxious and giving zero resilience.
OP, kindly, you don't seem to like your PILs and their culture very much. Whatever it is, it is your husband's culture and your kids' grandparents culture. It's not beneath English or Western culture, just different.

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ThatMintMember · 10/06/2026 10:00

Absolutely not to go without a parent at only 6. Tell them all no as he's too young but maybe when he's more like 10 years old.

If your husband wants him to go he should be going with him.

middleagedandinarage · 10/06/2026 10:05

For me the first no would be taking him out of school, I personally don't see the need for that when they have such a long summer holiday ahead. Also I agree at 6 years old, 3 weeks out the country without mum or dad is too long. Honestly my gut would be the same as yours
However . . . I do think you're being a little unreasonable to write the whole thing off. Imagine how helpful it could be for childcare in a couple of years if DS can go off for a few weeks of the summer holidays. Also as much as it's hard for you to accept the different cultural ways, ie lack of health and safety etc. That way of life will be very normal in their country and you have to be fair that this is also your DH's (half your ds's genetics) roots and upbringing. I think it would be an amazing experience for your DS, my view might be different if he didn't want to go or didn't know/like his GP's but the anxiety all seems to be with you not him.
Personally I would be saying no to MILS suggestion but I would be saying he's too young for that this year and I don't want him out of school, however we (DH) will fly over with him in the holidays and stay for a week (or few days at least), he can then have a week with you himself then you fly back with him.
I get it feels strange MIL hasn't spoken to you about it but you did say there's a huge language barrier so maybe it's just physically easier to have the conversation with DH

FairyBatman · 10/06/2026 10:06

First thing you need to do is take your DS passport and give it to your parents.

No way would I agree to send a 6 year old abroad in these circumstances.

I would write a list of bullets to why you are not happy and won’t agree to this, and then I would write a list of steps that need to be in place before you will let DS make the trip. E.g. MIL comes and stays for several weeks providing care for DS in your home. DS must be fluent in the local language. He goes for 2 weeks with DH and DH leaves for 1 or 2 days.

That way you are not saying no you are saying not now with a plan (that might take several years) for what will allow you to say yes.

KittyCorncrake · 10/06/2026 10:09

Just no!
Where is his passport?
Give it to a trusted friend to keep.

Beigepjs · 10/06/2026 10:11

Absolutely not.
I would be saying no.
His passport would be given to someone to keep safe.
I wouldn't entertain this.
I certainly wouldn't entertain being told that he is being taken out of school.
Tell the school of their plans if necessary.

Pinkbus · 10/06/2026 10:12

I think this is quite a common arrangement when GPs live overseas, I know several families where the children have always spent a large part of the summer abrepad with GPS . Maybe not a great idea for a six year old who has barely ever slept in his own bed, but tbh that's far more wtf to me than 3 weeks with GPs.

I wouldn't agree to taking him out of school though, and there'd need to be a plan to get him back/go out if there was an emergency.

MummyMummy5748291 · 10/06/2026 10:14

Greengage1983 · 10/06/2026 09:51

I'm just remembering how frightened I felt when my mum tried to drop me and my sister (so I wasn't alone) off at my grandmother's house, 20 miles down the road, who spoke English and who we knew well, for ONE NIGHT when I was around that age!! That sounds terrifying for a small child. And the fact they arranged it without consulting you, and with no care for your own plans, is completely out of line.

My MIL also lives abroad (in Europe), and DH has been discussing sending our 6 year old to stay with her on her own for a couple of weeks at some point (her cousins have been staying on their own with their grandmother since the age of about 4 - but they live in the same country so it's different!). I also have a friend who's in the same boat and is desperate for her child to reach an age where she can send her to stay with her parents in her home country for a week or two in the summer holidays. But we are both agreed that 6 is too young! In some ways I think it could be a really precious and worthwhile experience for a child, to learn their other language, learn about their other heritage, and build a relationship with their grandparents. Adults I know who had that experience in the past talk about it with great fondness as a magical time. So I do think it's worth seriously thinking about it for some point in the future. BUT!!!! Not when he's only 6 years old!! Perhaps 9 or 10... maybe even 11 or 12.

While I agree there are a lot of red flags here and DH has not gone about it the right way, I would say age 10-12 is absolutely too late to start doing that. In fact, 12 is the age where I started not wanting to go away to my grandparents anymore as I wanted to be with friends all summer. I still went because I had a good relationship with them but for much, much shorter time.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 10/06/2026 10:14

Your child cannot be removed from the country without your permission - so just say no. And yes, you have a DH problem.

Make sure you have DS’s passport in a place your DH cannot access it and tell PIL that no, your very young son will NOT be going to stay without you.

re sleeping - they grow out of it. Both mine often ended up in our bed most nights until about his age, but gradually just stopped visiting. By the time they were 8 never saw them at all unless they were sick.

PeoniesAreMyFavouriteFlowers · 10/06/2026 10:16

No.

And please use paragraphs.

50sandFabulous · 10/06/2026 10:19

The Situation
The Child: 6 years old, bed-shares, has never spent a night away from his parents. He has ARFID (severe food avoidance) and a significant language barrier with his grandparents (understands "ok-ish" but cannot speak it confidently).
The Bombshell: The husband (DH) unilaterally agreed with his mother (MIL) to send the 6-year-old overseas to the in-laws for over 3 weeks this summer, including pulling him out of school a week early.
The Logistics: It is a 20-hour, multi-leg journey door-to-door with no direct flights.
The Grandparents & Environment Concerns
Communication: MIL speaks no English and has health/safety blind spots (doesn't consistently use car seats, ignores suncream, poor hygiene with pets).
Home Volatility: Father-in-law (FIL) is recovering from major surgery, shows signs of cognitive decline, and suffers from night terrors/screaming due to undiagnosed PTSD. The grandparents have a highly fractious relationship.
The Drama: DH expects the self-employed wife to fly out last-minute if the child can't cope, accuses her of not supporting his overseas family, and is currently giving her the silent treatment.
Why You Are 100% Right (YANBU)
Developmental Trauma: Taking a child who has never slept alone and dropping him into a foreign country for 21+ days without parents is an emotional safety risk.
Safety & Health Risks: Between the ARFID food triggers, language barrier, lack of car seats, and a grandfather experiencing severe night terrors, the environment is entirely unsuitable for a solo 6-year-old.
The "DH Problem": A major, international parenting decision cannot be made unilaterally. Your husband is acting out of "expat guilt" rather than looking at the reality of his son's needs.

Recommended Next Steps
The Boundary: Do not agree to the solo trip. It is an absolute veto.
The Reframing: Pivot the argument away from "your family vs. mine" to "what our 6-year-old can physically and emotionally handle right now."
The Compromise: Offer for MIL to use her flight to come stay with you in for those weeks, or agree that the child can go in the future only if DH travels with him.

SummerJobHunter · 10/06/2026 10:20

Am guessing it’s South America. Not a fucking chance would I allow this. This is a hill I would die on.

MadinMarch · 10/06/2026 10:25

Mclaren10 · 10/06/2026 00:15

I worked with some Polish women and it was completely normal for them to fly to Poland with their children, leave them with grandparents for 3-6 weeks of the summer and then fly back to collect them. They all seemed to like it.

So maybe a cultural difference but uanbu to say no way.

But di the Polish children speak the same language as their grandparents? And did they see the grandparents more often? Was one of the grandparents mentally and screaming during the night? Were the children as young as 6, and left with other siblings? Did they have ARFID?
As you can see, it's not necessarily the same at all....

Littlewiseone · 10/06/2026 10:34

NO no no no no! This is complete madness. Over my dead body would any of this be happening with my son. Please stand up to this nonsense and good luck!

REP22 · 10/06/2026 10:42

50sandFabulous · 10/06/2026 10:19

The Situation
The Child: 6 years old, bed-shares, has never spent a night away from his parents. He has ARFID (severe food avoidance) and a significant language barrier with his grandparents (understands "ok-ish" but cannot speak it confidently).
The Bombshell: The husband (DH) unilaterally agreed with his mother (MIL) to send the 6-year-old overseas to the in-laws for over 3 weeks this summer, including pulling him out of school a week early.
The Logistics: It is a 20-hour, multi-leg journey door-to-door with no direct flights.
The Grandparents & Environment Concerns
Communication: MIL speaks no English and has health/safety blind spots (doesn't consistently use car seats, ignores suncream, poor hygiene with pets).
Home Volatility: Father-in-law (FIL) is recovering from major surgery, shows signs of cognitive decline, and suffers from night terrors/screaming due to undiagnosed PTSD. The grandparents have a highly fractious relationship.
The Drama: DH expects the self-employed wife to fly out last-minute if the child can't cope, accuses her of not supporting his overseas family, and is currently giving her the silent treatment.
Why You Are 100% Right (YANBU)
Developmental Trauma: Taking a child who has never slept alone and dropping him into a foreign country for 21+ days without parents is an emotional safety risk.
Safety & Health Risks: Between the ARFID food triggers, language barrier, lack of car seats, and a grandfather experiencing severe night terrors, the environment is entirely unsuitable for a solo 6-year-old.
The "DH Problem": A major, international parenting decision cannot be made unilaterally. Your husband is acting out of "expat guilt" rather than looking at the reality of his son's needs.

Recommended Next Steps
The Boundary: Do not agree to the solo trip. It is an absolute veto.
The Reframing: Pivot the argument away from "your family vs. mine" to "what our 6-year-old can physically and emotionally handle right now."
The Compromise: Offer for MIL to use her flight to come stay with you in for those weeks, or agree that the child can go in the future only if DH travels with him.

This. 100%. And very seriously OP - Keep complete control of DS's passport, securely, locked away. You know you have a DH problem. Innumerable rulings listed under the England and Wales High Court (Family Division) Decisions
on BAILII - Recent Decisions (All cases) demonstrate why.

BAILII - Recent Decisions (All cases)

https://www.bailii.org/recent-decisions.html#ew/cases/EWFC/HCJ

Walksinwild · 10/06/2026 10:46

Do not let your child go and DH needs to see what a bad situation it is. I see your DH is wanting to involve his parents. Might they stay with you for a week as a compromise and you could take some days off work to supervise everything.

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 10/06/2026 10:52

From the age of 10 (when my brother was 7) we went to my maternal grandparents for the summer. They were the best 6 weeks of the year and some of my happiest childhood memories.

However - there was no language gap and when I was younger one of my parents always stayed with us for most of the holiday. It was also a short and inexpensive flight away if a crisis occurred.

SummerJobHunter · 10/06/2026 10:58

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 10/06/2026 10:52

From the age of 10 (when my brother was 7) we went to my maternal grandparents for the summer. They were the best 6 weeks of the year and some of my happiest childhood memories.

However - there was no language gap and when I was younger one of my parents always stayed with us for most of the holiday. It was also a short and inexpensive flight away if a crisis occurred.

And having a sibling there is less isolating. Going with no one in your family unit is much harder.

Violinorbanjo · 10/06/2026 11:00

These things are discussed before you marry a foreign person. What is your relationship with your mother, father, etc? How much time you spend with them?

Kokonimater · 10/06/2026 11:05

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 10/06/2026 10:52

From the age of 10 (when my brother was 7) we went to my maternal grandparents for the summer. They were the best 6 weeks of the year and some of my happiest childhood memories.

However - there was no language gap and when I was younger one of my parents always stayed with us for most of the holiday. It was also a short and inexpensive flight away if a crisis occurred.

So nothing like the OP’s situation. How does this help?

Greengage1983 · 10/06/2026 11:07

I get it feels strange MIL hasn't spoken to you about it but you did say there's a huge language barrier so maybe it's just physically easier to have the conversation with DH - @middleagedandinarage

The issue I think is not that MIL didn't speak directly to OP. (IMO that's a good thing... far too many men delegate their relationship with their own parents to their wives.) My husband also does 100% of the organising whenever we see his family. The problem is that OP's DH didn't consult her before finalising the plans.

GreatFish · 10/06/2026 11:17

What would you do if she refused to return your son.It has happened to others.I wouldn't be giving permission for any of my children to leave the country regardless of who they were going with.

Difficulty101 · 10/06/2026 11:22

Way too young, especially for the distances. 10+ is more realistic.

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