Why do twin parents pay double but get no extra help?

[Twinmama11]

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately… having twins means buying everything x2, but there’s not really any extra support or discounts out there.

It kind of feels like we’re just expected to manage it?

Does anyone else feel like this or is it just me?

I don't have multiples, but I have lots of friends with twins, and two friends who had triplets. It is consierably more expensive because you can't pass the big things down to your next child (car seats, high chairs, cots, etc); you need 2 or 3x everything up front. Do parents of singletons really not get that?

Glad to see Ireland does, tbh.

What do you expect? I have two kids, not twins but they are opposite sex so should I get a discount because I can’t hand down many of the clothes to my second child? Should I get a discount if I have yet another child? And why do you have to buy two of everything? Surely they share much of the stuff- two car seats yes, twice as many nappies yes (but you’d do that with two kids that aren’t twins). Of course having two kids is more expensive and harder work than one, and two babies are a lot of work, but that doesn’t translate into discounts.

I don't 'use' children's services, but I don't object to paying towards them. I would much rather live in a society where children have some protection from parents who are abusive or spectacularly incompetent.

Nobody hands down schools shoes - they are trashed by the end of the school year so everyone is having to buy new shoes regardless of the age gap!! I have 3 and so its new school shoes, new trainers etc for each of them. I remember once having to buy 12 pairs of shoes at once as they all seemed to have grown out of everything. Not expecting a discount because I have 3 children.

I was replying to the post from aretheranyleftatall, saying that they could share parties, etc.

Yes, similar to having two a year apart, but not the same as some things could be handed down from a one-year-old to a newborn.

One birth. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Erm, the second one doesn't come out on its own.

What on earth are you trying to say?!

You do need to 'explain' it if you are stating a claim to taxpayer money...

You can do what you like when you don't expect others to pay for it. Having PCOS is awful, but you're not going to die in 6mths... I'd rather the money was spent on cancer treatment for some young people if theres only enough money to pay for 1 of these scenarios (which seems to be the case today in the UK)

Two sets of birthday presents etc rather than a couple of birthdays through the year.

Did you conceive easily? Although with that amount of empathy might be best if you didn't have kids.

Will you spit a feather if I told you I saved for IVF for my second child with furlough cash? 😃

Well, I don’t really care what you’d rather spend your “tax payers” money on. You don’t know PCOS or the pain of infertility at all, you privileged and unempathic excuse for a person. How completely insensitive.

If you can afford IVF you can afford to raise twins and should prepare accordingly, before starting the IVF cycle.

Im also saying that people are draining our country financially who don't 'need' handouts... Like winter fuel. They claim they have 'rights' and claim poverty, when in reality it's rubbish, they aren't poor at all.

Have you ever heard of parents with two small kids? No? Well, it's exactly the same as you.

Infertility is a medical condition that is treated using IVF amongst other things. The NHS obviously seems this worthy enough to have funds to provide some funding. That poster probably also pays tax so why can't she get help? Again did you conceive easily?

But children is a "want".

Cancer treatment is a need.

You get 1 NHS funded IVF cycle under the age of 40ish, that's enough.

If you had a major illness and faced today's waiting lists you'd feel differently, so I'm happy to call you entitled back!

And for your information, I am a net contributor tax payer myself who works in healthcare. I have every right to fertility treatment to conceive a child. It isn’t my fault I am forced to fund it myself. Most people who don’t need fertility treatment aren’t disadvantaged by the costs. Check your privilege.

This is the point I am making. Yes, it’s a choice. But as a woman in this country, I (and others) have every right to that choice. I am highlighting the disadvantage it places against us if that were to the result in twins. In the same way, any other family who only budgeted for one, now has to pay double, triple. It’s the same for having a disabled child. No one plans for that, do they? That then results in higher costs.

special needs at school help

Is because of disabilities and is an investment in getting as many people work-ready, or at least literate and numerate if working isn't feasible, as possible.

Sorry, why has this thread now turned into a debate about what healthcare treatment you think I’m entitled to?

I was going to say should we shove all the SEN kids away and forget about them if that poster is anything to go by.

Yeah, come on @Diamond7272 If you’re going to come at me and my infertility, tell me how many children you have and whether they were naturally conceived? Why not tell me your tax bracket while you are at it, and I’ll give you my opinion on your choices.

Having children isn't a right.

When did I say it was?

You certainly don't, and I hope it all works out for you, but 'desperately wanting' something does not confer an absolute right to have it at public expense.

@Twinmama11 are you going to come back and contribute to your thread at all?

I never said that. But the NHS do offer it.