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Stranger calling me a bad parent

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Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 13:41

I’m just typing this to get it off my chest as I don’t really have many people to talk to. At the weekend I was with my daughter in a park, it was crowded due to an event happening at the same time. My daughter spotted some flowers and went to look at them. She stood in the flower bed and ran away from me, she then stood on a flower. I had grabbed her before then but my mum said she was ok to go back to have a look. My mum then said just grab her as she stood on a flower.

I lifted her up and a young woman standing by started saying I was disrespectful. I said well she’s only 3. The boyfriend then pipes up saying ‘we’re not talking to a 3 year old. We pay our taxes.’ I replied I also pay taxes?’ The woman then says ‘look at all the other children behaving nicely and not playing in the flowers, couldn’t you tell you were doing something wrong!’ I did see red and did lose my temper at this point and couldn’t believe she said this to me. I asked if they saw me as an easy target and if they would confront a gang of teenagers/men in the same manner. There were teens climbing a war memorial near by and I asked if they were going to say anything to them? They started needling me out of the way and I said I wanted to go where I was standing originally. At this point a man starts shouting at me that I’m pushing him. I just keep thinking about scared my daughter must have been of this.

I can’t stop thinking about how this has affected my daughter. It was Mother’s Day yesterday and I couldn’t stop thinking how I’ve raised a child. I’m a single parent, I lost a lot of blood in childbirth, I had post natal depression. My daughter still has issues sleeping. I’ve had not a day without worry in 3 years. But the a young woman can just comment so confidently on my parenting skills and not feel an ounce of shame. To get to that park yesterday I had to pack food, supplies, I had to make sure I had wipes, water even medicine. Did she have that sort of preparation?

it’s funny as I was going to give her a tablet to watch cartoons on (we were waiting for the event) but I thought it was good she wanted to get involved with nature. Ironic if she’d been on her tablet we would have gone without comment.

I can’t get the whole thing out of my head. My mum walked off so this upset my daughter as she gets separation anxiety. My mum walking off just added to the whole thing. I can’t discuss this with her as she believes this was my fault for interacting with them. I try to raise with her that I felt so alone and why as a parent she wouldn’t take my side automatically? I can’t get my head round that. She just can’t see my point of view and how awful I found that woman’s comment. She added that she never received any comments like that as we were always well behaved. Can I add at this point my daughter is the most lovely, well behaved little girl. She can be very cautious with new situations, she’s gentle with babies and younger kids, we’ve taken flights and car rides and people comment how good she is. Can I also say how worried I always am about being respectful. I litter pick, I always recycle, I always go back in to shops to pay if I’ve forgotten something in my trolley. I even cross the road in a respectful way 😂 I would never want to destroy something in nature, I plant my own flowers!

I get anxiety going out anyway but had to push myself yesterday as I didn’t want to have to hideaway(I probably would of if I was by myself) I’m just not sure how I forget about this, how do I parent with confidence when outside. How do I not combust with anxiety if my daughter wants to play in public again. How do I try and forget the tag of ‘bad parent’ has anyone been through anything similar?

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SummerHouse · 31/03/2025 14:48

A young woman standing by started saying I was disrespectful. I said well she’s only 3. The boyfriend then pipes up saying ‘we’re not talking to a 3 year old. We pay our taxes.’ I replied I also pay taxes?’ The woman then says ‘look at all the other children behaving nicely and not playing in the flowers, couldn’t you tell you were doing something wrong!’

Whatever happened before or after this is all totally unreasonable of this couple and no wonder it upset you. A three year old child stood on a flower and you dealt with it. Shame on them.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 14:48

MyKingdomForACat · 31/03/2025 14:42

They saw the kid as being allowed to do what she liked. Twice. I don’t get the bit about packing a bag and giving birth etc.

They saw teenagers acting anti-socially but oddly didn't challenge them ...... They picked the easy target.

And it sounds like they have no kids, and therefore no clue of the challenges of "supervising" them.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 31/03/2025 14:48

I would suggest not letting it bother you and maybe going to less crowded places if you feel anxiety.

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Lentilweaver · 31/03/2025 14:49

Reading your post properly, yes they did think you were an easy target.

And yes, no one ever takes on littering, shoplifting, racist, abusive teens. I have been the target of teen groups before because I guess I may be an easy target too. I just left the area immediately. I suppose you need to do the same, unpleasant though it is.

Harry9 · 31/03/2025 14:49

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 13:51

I dunno how a 3 year old who likes flower can be disrespectful 😂

They know she may struggle to understand that’s it’s not good behaviour and the consequences of her standing on flowers at age 3 but, until toddlers and children can fully understand, others expect the parent to intervene, especially if it happened more than once. I’m sure most wouldn’t say a word if they saw a young child momentarily standing on flowers then their parent intervening and ensuring it didn’t happen again.

It is disrespectful because those flowers which make areas, town centres etc. look lovely, cost money and they are fragile. If a child accidentally steps on them, they will die and look crap obviously.

It’s not news that a child gets a telling off for picking a flower (I mean something like a rose from a stranger’s garden while walking past, not a daisy in a field) or for stomping over flowers. I knew from a young age (probably about three, given my 1yo is already told enough not to walk where the flowers are) that I couldn’t go inside the bordered off parts where the flower beds were.

Packing a bag is basic parenting. Others won’t give a damn about the chaos of our lives before we leave the house, although I know exactly what you mean. I’d put this rubbish experience behind you. Parenting brings a huge deal of unsolicited parenting advice, including from strangers. I’ve learned to nod and smile at those who comment on my toddler not wearing her mittens in the cold, as if I haven’t tried about ten different pairs.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 14:50

kweenkweenie · 31/03/2025 14:24

No, you just see red over nothing and push past people irl.

That wasn't nothing.

And if he hadn't crowded her, she wouldn't had to have pushed.
I bet he did it on purpose.

I wonder why you enjoy attacking people on the internet?

Greebosmum · 31/03/2025 14:51

I think you have had a hard time on this thread. Some children are harder to parent than others as my daughter found out with her second.

People love to criticise others. You need to develop a thick skin and ignore them. We are all doing our best and I'm sure your little girl is lovely.

Try not to think aboutnit any more. Every day is a new start.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 31/03/2025 14:52

Mrsttcno1 · 31/03/2025 14:02

But how is your backstory relevant to your child ruining flowers?

Do you think you’re allowed to do that because you gave birth & packed a bag for your own child? Because, newsflash, you’re not.

I've given birth to 3 DC, packed countless bags when I've been on trips, and lost lots of blood during my 3 c-sections... and had one in lockdown on my own.

I'm the queen of getting a huge shiny medal, definitely. 😆😅🤣

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 14:52

We pay our taxes

Wanker.

And prejudiced and ignorant, with an ex to grind - because he assumed an apparently single mother didn't pay taxes.

Chewbecca · 31/03/2025 14:52

Daughter walking in flowerbeds - not ok
Stranger commenting on it - ok
Stranger having a go at you - not ok
You losing your temper - not ok

That's all there is to it as far as I can see.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 31/03/2025 14:53

Greebosmum · 31/03/2025 14:51

I think you have had a hard time on this thread. Some children are harder to parent than others as my daughter found out with her second.

People love to criticise others. You need to develop a thick skin and ignore them. We are all doing our best and I'm sure your little girl is lovely.

Try not to think aboutnit any more. Every day is a new start.

Yes, some children are harder to parent, but it doesn't give someone carte blanche to allow the child to destroy flowers or others' property....

sumor · 31/03/2025 14:54

My daughter spotted some flowers and went to look at them. She stood in the flower bed and ran away from me, she then stood on a flower. I had grabbed her before then but my mum said she was ok to go back to have a look. My mum then said just grab her as she stood on a flower.

I think I'd have been miffed at DGP encouraging behavior I'd already dealt with once- then when others were commenting wandering off leaving me to deal with kids and interaction alone and then blaming me.

People do make nasty comments to mothers with young kids - even when the mother is actively parenting.

Persoanlly I think I found it easier when there were direct as could get icely polite and tell them their input wasn't needed - worst for me was the loud talking about comments that would just put me on edge and make me feel watched and judged more likley when feeling awful in myself as well. It was rarer for DH to get comments when out with the kids thgough when he did he was just as upset by them.

One time I was loudly tutting and commented at when I asked DS to stop asking questions please - he wasn't waiting for answers and had been doing it for over 10 hours it was one of thsoe days with him and I wanted to hear another of our child speak as they were upset. The same couple said nothing when DH wandered back to us and was much sharper with DS few minutes later.

I think you have to write such days/incidenst off - I've had many more nice interactions.

Raquelos · 31/03/2025 14:54

Wow OP you've had some right snotty responses on here. Please do ignore them they are the kind of judgy idiots that would be screaming burn the witch and feel virtuous doing it. 🙄

Those people in the park were unneccesary and they should be ashamed of themselves. Having a go at women with children who are behaving like children is never a good look. Sure you didn't meekly appease them but really why should you have to, they created the situation with their unasked for comments.

You are quite right so many people have no idea just how hard it can feel doing the simplest things with little ones. You daughter sounds happy and inquisitive (and fast 😉) just like a 3 year old should be. Please stop second guessing yourself and enjoy your lovely daughter. Try to tune idiots like this out, they really dont know anything.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/03/2025 14:54

Are we five pages in discussing a three year old standing on a flower? Bloody hell you must all live in some very naice areas! Round here it’s all setting fire to play equipment and kids getting beaten up on their way home from school.

Whoarethoseguys · 31/03/2025 14:54

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 13:50

That was just a general thing, like to get there to that point at that time I had a lot of preparation (as I do every day). It takes a lot of effort. It would be nice if people could take that into account maybe, that’s all I meant.

Well they wouldn't know how much you had to prepare to get there just as you don't know how much effort they may have had to put in to get there.
I think the couple was wrong to moan at you but you made it worse by arguing back. And of course your child shouldn't have been standing on the flowers. I know it can happen by accident but you should have explained to your daughter about respecting the flowers .

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 14:54

Thanks for all the positive and constructive comments. I am going to try to not react the next time someone is rude like this.

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pimplebum · 31/03/2025 14:55

they don’t know my backstory so maybe shouldn’t have a go

I am saying this kindly as you have been spoken to harshly but you are throwing yourself a bit of a pity party , most people find parenting hard, Mother’s Day can bring things to a head and I lost a ton of blood but would not expect anyone to take that into consideration when having a pop at my parenting which I’d find v v upsetting too

i actually think confronting any stranger is pointless as they are either going to take it extremely to heart like you did or ignore / not care and tell you to fuck off and you are correct they would not start on a gang of teenagers

either way you haven’t reached your objective
and everyone’s upset , they seemed excessively mean to say what they did

it’s very weird your mum being so unsupportive and walking off , standing away from you ? Is she usually so distant ?

my advice is the shake it off , be more mindful of flowers in the future and next time have a strategy for dealing with criticism so it doesn’t get out if hand , I find a nod and smile and agree with them and leave is my general approach

Harry9 · 31/03/2025 14:55

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 14:52

We pay our taxes

Wanker.

And prejudiced and ignorant, with an ex to grind - because he assumed an apparently single mother didn't pay taxes.

Edited

My reading was he was implying only someone who doesn’t pay taxes wouldn’t give a shit about the flower beds being trampled? Not saying it was ok btw! Knobhead comment to make and incredibly prejudiced!

Duckyfondant · 31/03/2025 14:56

I think the comments from strangers when you were with your daughter, and some of those here on this thread, show that there is less compassion about at the moment. Try not to take it personally.

Lentilweaver · 31/03/2025 14:57

Where I am in SE London teens are often stealing entire Boots displays and yelling racist abuse at the staff. Unnecessary drama about a tiny kid standing on a flower.

Doingmybestbut · 31/03/2025 14:57

They started needling me out of the way and I said I wanted to go where I was standing originally. At this point a man starts shouting at me that I’m pushing him

It does sound like you at least contributed to escalating the situation. Try and think about whether it was worth your time and energy to escalate and whether it would have been wiser to deescalate and save your time and energy for you and your kids.

IWillAlwaysBeinaClubWithYouin1973 · 31/03/2025 14:58

Where I'm from if you saw a child of ANY age ripping every single head of a bed of 100 flowers and commented on it to the parents, you would definitely be beaten up. OP's Park Twats clearly live in an area where you can get away with that sort of shit.

That aside, OP, Mumsnet has changed a lot in the last 25 years since my children were born and if you offer yourself up for a verbal kicking on here, you will definitely get it.

If you'd come on here and said I told a parent their 3 year old shouldn't damage a flower, you would also have your arse on a plate. As you found out with the Park Twats, people just love a fight. Please try to put it out of your mind, you're a bit stressed, who wouldn't be, and this stupid incident is playing on you.

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 14:58

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 14:52

We pay our taxes

Wanker.

And prejudiced and ignorant, with an ex to grind - because he assumed an apparently single mother didn't pay taxes.

Edited

That was my first thought. The taxes comment really irked me alongside the all the other children are behaving.

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Megifer · 31/03/2025 14:59

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 14:54

Thanks for all the positive and constructive comments. I am going to try to not react the next time someone is rude like this.

Don't forget op:

Inner you: absolute wanker of a person do piss off

Outward you: look through them while pretending you cant hear a word they say

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 14:59

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 14:44

Actually the boyfriend of the woman had a can of lager and it would be interesting to see where he disposed of that.

Uugh, people who can't go to a daytime event surrounded by families without having a can of lager in their hand.

Classy.