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Normal behaviour for a father of a 5 year old boy?

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Mamadayle · 07/01/2025 10:22

I have genuine concerns over the way my partner acts towards my son, how he talks to him and how he talks about him to me which causes argument after argument. He's always been a perfectionist with high expectations of us both, but the last 2 years it has been another level.

I'd be keen to hear others thoughts on this as I often wonder if it's me in my head...some examples are...

My son went back to school this week after the christmas break and was very upset going in - he loves being with us and i was expecting him to be upset. I comforted him, waited with him until he calmed down after a few minutes and when I turned around my partner had stormed off home, without saying a word to me or him.

He then proceeded to call him a lazy b*ard when I got home and that he never wants to do anything. He has also called him Fat and said the above because he has never shown an interest in sports, riding his bike or any classes we have taken him to - bearing in mind he is only 5 years old. My partner gets angry at him when he doesn't pick something up right away - for example swimming - he wants him to be good at everything without putting the time or effort into teaching him. During a holiday in October my partner said he wouldn't go in the pool with him unless he would swim (he only started lessons properly this year) so i spent the entire week in the pool with him as his Dad would let him go under and try to 'teach him the hard way'.

He is always short, snappy, harsh - and can never handle any of the 'negative emotions' my son shows. Whether that be crying, angry / tantrums, huffing or fussyness around food - it always sits on me to try to negotiate or calm the situation. In fact when he is showing any of those emotions, my partner taunts him and goads him which makes it worse and then it escalates to a full on meltdown that I need to calm down, everytime. It's like having two children.

He also doesn't do much around the house, my to do list like many mothers is 1000 list long whereas he very much sees to himself, has never taken my son for a day out alone, never organises any play dates or fun things to do, wasn't interested in making christmas or new year special for him or me, it was all down to me, and I am at a point where i cannot breathe. He also went out at the weekend and got home at 7am after going back to an after party (he is late 30's and whilst he goes out alot, that was unusual) he isn't cheating but was up drinking and god knows what else all night, which meant the day after he spent in bed and yet again I solo parented all day. When i asked him why he did thast he replied 'because i wanted to'. WTF? He has a football season ticket so spends alot of Saturdays or Sundays away, never just for the game, it always involves the pub before and after, unless he is hungover and will sometimes take the car - always for a pint after though.

We own our house together and the area we live in near our sons school is very expensive so I would struggle to buy somewhere on my own but it could be possible. I just really don't want to unsettle my son who is a sensitive little soul, but on the other hand his dads behaviour is starting to shape him. What does everyone think? Am i going mad? Is this normal? Have you experienced anything similar? I'm at my wits end and fail to see how any grown man his age cannot recognise his behaviour or wrongdoings? I've suggested therapy before but of course, he doesn't need it. He won't leave the house, won't even sleep on the sofa when I don't want him near me......argh, help!

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SleeplikeababyTonight · 07/01/2025 11:27

Lavenderhazeee · 07/01/2025 11:23

Please leave. This has got to be one of the saddest things I've ever read on here. This is 100% emotional abuse. Your poor boy.

Me too, this is only MN, but has strangely affected me. It is just is so so sad, and I feel for this little boy. I have the same aged child who I'll pick up from school later, and it is heartbreaking whenever you hear of abuse towards children, esp from their own parent. It is a parent's job to keep their dc safe, and protected. I actually think it is everybody's responsibility if they witness anything like this, to act whether they know them.or not.

Op, if you stay, you are enabling the abuse and not safeguarding your son, which makes you complicit. I think this man is badly manipulating you as well if you choose to stay. Do you know what your next steps will be?

Sassybooklover · 07/01/2025 11:28

No, this is not normal. Your husband is a bully/abusive it's that simple. I am going to guess, that he resents your son, for upsetting his nice, organised life. I wouldn't stay with a man, who treats his 5 year old son in this manner. Your son is going to grow into a child that is anxious, insecure and most of all frightened of his Dad. You need to make plans to leave your husband, for your son's sake. Others many have experience of situations like this, but I would say you are going to need to prove your husband is bullying/abusive towards your son. Your husband will be given access to your son, when actually he should only have supervised access or none at all.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 07/01/2025 11:34

Oh OP, your post is heartbreaking. Your poor darling boy. You know that none of this is right. I know it's not going to be easy but you need to leave and give your boy the peaceful, calm childhood he deserves.

Sending love and strength to you. You must be devastated at the awful kind of father your DP has turned out to be. But you are the best kind of mum because you understand your son's needs and are asking for advice.

You know what you need to do... have you got support around you to help you leave?

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Loobieloogold · 07/01/2025 11:38

Oh OP. You have just described my ex husband. To the letter. I feel for you, I really do.

My only advise would be to seriously consider leaving for your boys sake and your own. Hugs and more hugs to you.

Blueeyedmale · 07/01/2025 11:39

No this Is far from normal this is abuse,no loving dad would ever treat their child in such a despicable way.

SleeplikeababyTonight · 07/01/2025 11:39

Loobieloogold · 07/01/2025 11:38

Oh OP. You have just described my ex husband. To the letter. I feel for you, I really do.

My only advise would be to seriously consider leaving for your boys sake and your own. Hugs and more hugs to you.

Edited

Do you mind me asking if you took steps to leave your ex, what you did? Just incase it helps op.

MistyFrequencies · 07/01/2025 11:41

Mymanyellow · 07/01/2025 10:24

Get this fucking bullying prick as far away from your precious little boy as you can. What a cunt.

This

Difficultwill · 07/01/2025 11:49

I feel so much for you. You are being abused as is your son. You need to get out asap. Take advice from the CAB and Women’s Aid. Both of these will be able to sign post you in the right direction. Is he ever violent? Be very careful when you do leave as I do worry for your safety as he sounds like someone who could explode when left as he will see this as the ultimate rejection. He deserves nothing from you. Take your little boy and run. Have you anywhere you can stay? Parents or friends? Or has he isolated you from your loved ones? Please get out soon. You will be so much better off as a solo parent, not financially but in every other way. Good luck and take care of yourself as well as your son.

Devilsmommy · 07/01/2025 11:49

Mymanyellow · 07/01/2025 10:24

Get this fucking bullying prick as far away from your precious little boy as you can. What a cunt.

Couldn't have said it better. Your poor son having a dad like that

Weyohweyoh · 07/01/2025 11:52

Mymanyellow · 07/01/2025 10:24

Get this fucking bullying prick as far away from your precious little boy as you can. What a cunt.

👆 This. What a nasty bastard.

2JFDIYOLO · 07/01/2025 11:54

What an absolute shit you've decided to inflict on yourself and your poor child.

You have a choice. He doesn't.

Harsh, I know, but honestly OP.

Bubblybits · 07/01/2025 12:00

He’s abusive and you need to protect your son. It is up to you. No matter how hard it might be, you need to get out for your son’s sake.

Ughn0tryte · 07/01/2025 12:01

I wouldn't describe him a sensitive child, I would say he's so anxious around returning home to a bully who is meant to protect him.

It's emotional abuse and it's more like he sees your child as some sort of toy or shiny prize that needs to function perfectly rather than a person with wants and needs of his own.

Cotonsugar · 07/01/2025 12:08

I almost couldn’t finish reading this, it’s very upsetting. Changing schools shouldn’t be a problem at your son’s age. My daughter changed 3 times due to work reasons and having to move. She grew up to be an independent adult who could fit in and socialise anywhere. She is naturally quiet and introverted too, so please consider your options.

Bleachbum · 07/01/2025 12:16

LadyQuackBeth · 07/01/2025 10:40

Your son is sensitive because he is constantly worried about disappointing his dad. He isn't going to enjoy any sport or activity with the pressure to be instantly excellent at it. Your DS is already affected by him and it doesn't sound like he brings much joy to you either.

I would make a plan to leave, I don't say it often here either, but your post really makes my heart ache for your DS.

He has a great mum, you can give him a lovely life.

100% agree with this.

Edenmum2 · 07/01/2025 12:31

LTB IMMEDIATELY

BobbyBiscuits · 07/01/2025 12:35

He's a complete waste of space and you'd be better off single.
I'd tell him to leave the house. Say he's no longer welcome. Change the locks? If he asks why
Just say 'because I wanted to'.
Useless prick.

pandaface680 · 07/01/2025 12:40

I would also be concerned about unsupervised access to your ds. At the moment you say you mediate and try to smooth things over. You're trying to shield and protect your ds from some of the abuse (because that's what it is, as I'm sure you're aware now) but what will happen when you're not there to do that?

I'm not saying stay with him, he sounds vile. But the posters shouting LTB PROTECT YOUR SON don't seem to have considered that he is entitled to access and how can she protect him when she isn't there?

I would seek advice from children's services with a view to leaving. Explain your concerns. It will help to have a record of it. Do you think your dh would actually fight for access?

It blows my mind to think people can be so cruel to their own dc. Mine drive me to the brink sometimes but I can't ever imagine wanting them to feel ashamed, anxious or upset because of how I'd made them feel. Bloody awful.

lauraIEN · 07/01/2025 13:26

Leave him. You and your son will be much better off without him. As his Mum you need to protect your son. None of what you have said is normal to answer your question. I hope everything works out for you and your son.

jolota · 07/01/2025 13:37

Gosh this sounds like an absolutely horrible way to live. Your poor son is definitely being affected by your partners behaviour.
It's obviously not normal and it sounds like you'd be much happier without him.

Anddrumrollplease · 07/01/2025 13:39

This makes horrible reading. I was feeling more and more upset the more I read.
Please put your son first here, this will do untold damage to him mentally and could affect him in so many ways. Your partner is a bully and is bullying your son - imagine living like that. You need to be his voice here and you need to get him away from that.

Nextyearhopes · 07/01/2025 13:40

Get off the internet and find a safe place to go with your son. He deserves better.

notnorman · 07/01/2025 14:11

From experience- It will only get worse. Try to leave as soon as you can.

Eastie77Returns · 07/01/2025 14:25

OP, serious question: when you read your post back to yourself what do you think?

Which part of the behaviour displayed by your partner strikes you as a normal, healthy way to treat a 5 year old? If you are truly unsure if his behaviour is abusive then I’m deeply concerned for the wellbeing of your poor DS.

Otherwise I’m struggling to understand why you even need to ask. How did you think people would respond? Do you just need a thread with lots of people telling you your DP is a terrible person? Obviously you need to get your son away from this man. Today he is pushing him under water, tomorrow it will be something else to ‘teach him a lesson’. Do you plan to wait for that something else whilst waiting to hear the opinions of strangers on the internet?

comedycentral · 07/01/2025 14:32

He's abusing your little boy, I can't believe he let's him go under in the pool to teach him the hard way for example. He sounds horrible and dangerous, but you aren't protecting him either. I hope he tells a friend other family member or a teacher so someone can get him away from his situation, he deserves better.