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Aggressive 16 year old son

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Tryingmybestbut · 03/11/2024 23:24

Hello I'm hoping for some advice from someone who has been through similar or knows what to do.

My son was the sweetest little boy. He was the child who was awarded certificates at Primary school for being kind, thoughtful, polite, hardworking etc. I always worried about his self confidence but also proud (pride before a fall) that I was raising a seemingly kind soul.

To this day to the outside world he is this kind soul - looks after his friends and people within the extended family but at home things have been different for years.

It started at secondary school with shoving me. He's been 6 foot for 2 years. At its worst in January he pushed me over and was kicking me while I was on the ground. He has physically shoved my husband on numerous occasions (including pushing him down the stairs) when he has tried to intervene - the aggression always starts directed at me.

He hasn't pushed me or hit me for probably 3 months. He seemed to finally listen to my husband who said if he ever hit or pushed me again he would call the police.

Even though he is not pushing or hitting either my husband or I the aggression continues. It feels as though we are tiptoeing around him - he can be happy for several weeks and it's like we are trying to do anything to keep him there. We're never really relaxed. It feels like we don't know him anymore - if things are on his terms everything is OK.

Instead of the physical violence he now breaks things and uses aggressive body language (he's taller than both of us). In the past couple of months he has broken a blind, my husbands work mouse, his sister's lamp, our bedroom big light, living room door and dented the walls.

Then again tonight after an ok week of half term. He is at college only 3 days a week so agreed to find a part time job. We have helped him write a CV and helped him apply for McDonald's and tesco but this was 2 months ago. 2 more jobs have come up locally but he keeps putting off applying. Today his dad offered again to help him with the applications and the aggression started. He smashed up my bedside table and tore my work coat to shreds. I think the aggression is directed at me because I found the 2 jobs. He has said some appalling things to me again tonight (very misogynistic eg you're lucky dad married you when he did because if he saw you now no one would want you - you're fat, old, disgusting. You're lucky dad has a good job because you earn nothing - I work full time as a teacher but my husband earns 3x my salary) He has been getting in front of me towering over me aggressively not letting me get past while he says awful things.

How has it got to this? He hasn't learnt it from his dad - he wouldn't so much as raise his voice at me.

We find we're just trying to keep him calm in the middle of it all but then are we not just making it worse? Whenever we try to talk to him about it (days later) he won't discuss it.

I can hear him now in his room happily chatting to his friend (on the phone) like nothing has happened. I'm lying in bed unable to sleep.

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Copperoliverbear · 03/11/2024 23:33

I'd say he's either taking drugs or mentally unwell, you are not helping him by staying quiet.
I'd go the drs and speak to them and maybe ask to see someone at his college, I might even be tempted to go to the police station and ask them for advice, but there is 100% no way I'd put up with anyone hitting me.

Wasywasydoodah · 03/11/2024 23:38

There may be support for this through social care in your area. It’s worth giving Early Help in your area a call. Non violent resistance can be a helpful approach- you could search to see if there’s support in your area with this, you may need to pay.

NoPrivateSpy · 03/11/2024 23:39

OP, this is terrible. I am so sorry. I don't have any experience of this but hope someone who does will be along soon to advise.

Is he regretful afterwards? You really need to speak to him about what is going on and how it is making you feel. Would it help to film it / record it and show it back to him? Or talk to him about it with someone impartial there, so that he can't escalate it and blame you in the moment?

geekygardener · 03/11/2024 23:40

That sounds very hard for you all op.

Was there a trigger in the beginning? A family death or bullying or something? Not an excuse but this sort of behaviour in children rarely comes out of the blue for no reason.

Has he always had consistent boundaries and consequences? When younger? And now? What are the consequences for this behaviour?

What's he like at college?

I'd recommend you reach out to the pastoral team at his college for support. They will have come across this many many times and should have some advice and direct support available or should sign post you off not.
Another avenue is your GP who can refer you to services of support.

The key is doing it now and making it non negotiable.

Don't try reason with him at the stage. I think your past the sitting down talking about it stage and need to now start taking this as seriously as it is. You show him that this support from outside services is happening end of.

Do you know what he is accessing online? I'd also look at this. His language to you makes me wonder if he's accessing some bad male influences online.

fallenbranches · 03/11/2024 23:44

Agree with advice above and I am so sorry to hear this but can I ask how does your DH react to this? And what was done the first time he showed this behaviour?

Tryingmybestbut · 04/11/2024 00:00

Thank you for replying i will look again tomorrow - it helped just to write it down - I teach reception so do need to try and sleep tonight!

He has always had quirks - but never enough that I pushed for a diagnosis - ticks as a child, lining things up, daydreaming, unusually good visual memory, shy/uneasy socially, changes to routine difficult, same obsessive interest since he was a toddler (would be outing if I said). We just tried to help him with things he found difficult- encouraged team sports / groups to help with his shyness talked about things that worried him - used the monkey analogy.

I think it started at secondary school - he was never truly comfortable but wasn't bullied. He slowly formed a small group of friends but still isn't highly sociable. He switched off from school academically messed up his gcses and couldn't stay at school with his friends- he has had to go to college where he doesnt know anyone. I think it is probably a better path as it is linked to his interest whereas alevels wouldn't have been but hard for him because he's on his own.

I'm making excuses for him again!! I'm going to try and sleep and see if I can think more clearly tomorrow after school.

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Westofeasttoday · 04/11/2024 00:16

Copperoliverbear · 03/11/2024 23:33

I'd say he's either taking drugs or mentally unwell, you are not helping him by staying quiet.
I'd go the drs and speak to them and maybe ask to see someone at his college, I might even be tempted to go to the police station and ask them for advice, but there is 100% no way I'd put up with anyone hitting me.

Or dare I add watching some pretty questionable Andrew Tate like content way too often? Your safety is paramount and I can’t imagine how horrible this must be. But gently consider that you may need guidance professionally to navigate this which may involve you being calm but clear. Both your children need to see and witness acceptable behaviour toward women. I’m not sure this gets better without intervention. Big hugs.

Meanwhile33 · 04/11/2024 00:19

I’m so sorry op, this sounds awful. I think he needs consequences and you would be justified in calling the police if he’s smashing things in your house. It sounds like he’s in control of himself, so is actively choosing to do this. You should be able to feel safe in your own home. I’d want him out I think, but that’s easy to say from a distance.

sarsaparillatree · 04/11/2024 00:33

He sounds as if he is mentally ill. As a start maybe there is a helpline you could phone for advice or an opinion?

NHS website mentions this one
"You can also contact the Young Minds Parents Helpline on 0808 802 5544 (9.30am to 4pm Monday to Friday) for advice and support concerning mental health issues in young people."

Janedoe82 · 04/11/2024 00:39

Let’s stop the crap- if he was 30 and hitting his wife would we say he was ‘mentally ill’?
He is an abuser and it won’t stop until you and your husband take control and buck him out!!! What message are you sending your daughter?
You need to report and get him somewhere else to stay.

m00ngirl · 04/11/2024 00:49

So sorry for what you're going through OP. There is a storyline about exactly this in Eastenders at the moment which made me think it's a growing problem.

I am wondering what the consequences are to his actions? Does he have any sense of how this behaviour will play out in the real world? I mean this kindly, but I don't think it's in anyone's interests for you to tiptoe around him. If he breaks something /destroys your clothing he needs to pay to replace it even if that means selling something of his (phone, PlayStation, whatever). That's just the very simple dispassionate consequence of his physical behaviour. Then you can get to the root causes of it, and the verbal aggression, separately. But he needs to understand that in your house these actions have immediate consequences.

Janedoe82 · 04/11/2024 00:52

The more I think about it- with another child in the home it is actually a safeguarding issue. You need to speak to a professional here and flag this. It might be the fright he needs. Social work or police.

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 04/11/2024 01:19

Does he go to a gym? I’m wondering if it is roid rage ..

serenavanderwoodsenn · 04/11/2024 01:44

So you have a daughter? You need to get him out of the house OP. He could do this to her.

yipyipyop · 04/11/2024 02:36

Janedoe82 · 04/11/2024 00:39

Let’s stop the crap- if he was 30 and hitting his wife would we say he was ‘mentally ill’?
He is an abuser and it won’t stop until you and your husband take control and buck him out!!! What message are you sending your daughter?
You need to report and get him somewhere else to stay.

Completely agree. He's abusive and needs to go elsewhere especially with a sibling in the house. Please don't listen to the suggestions about pussyfooting around him

JJtrying2024 · 04/11/2024 03:41

I had family member like this as a child and it affected me. It calmed down as the years went on, probably he did more exercise, to help calm his mood but those teenager years, stuff was broken alot and people were hurt physically.
He needs to get seen to ASAP.
Please don't let it affect the rest of your family.
My family member still thinks his opinion is no 1 and worst my mum thinks he's just the best. But I still can see the same person if you push the wrong buttons.

GildedRage · 04/11/2024 04:30

Stay safe @Tryingmybestbut , time to speak to a psychologist, family doctor, psychiatrist, police, school councillor, and or social worker. You need to get the ball rolling for your health and primarily safety. Your son needs professional help.

neerg · 04/11/2024 06:15

Very similar happened with my daughter. We thought it was autism/mental health.
We found very little help from anywhere, college, doctors.
We eventually got a camhs appt. where we told she had mild anxiety.
We were told not to accept the violent behavior. We were told to phone the police. The process was explained to us.
We took ages to implement it because we were worried about having a record etc.
In the end we did.

Infact it happened twice.

She hated us and brought it up regularly, how we ruined her life etc..but she wasn't violent again.
And she hasn't got a criminal record.
And life has got so much better

Good luck....and do it.

mumonthehill · 04/11/2024 06:23

You need to phone the police. You have another child in your home and they need safeguarding. Yes there may be underlying issues but at 16 you cannot make him do or see anyone. He is currently getting away with violent and threatening behaviour and he needs a sharp shock. If he did this to someone in the street he would be arrested. Loving him might mean you have to make very difficult decisions. You cannot carry on as you are none of you are safe.

sashh · 04/11/2024 07:01

Can you call women's aid? This is a form of domestic abuse.

I'm sorry I cannot be more help.

Oreyt · 04/11/2024 07:03

Get his dad to do to him what he does to you. It will stop.

Jifmicroliquid · 04/11/2024 07:09

If he starts smashing things, call the police.
Tip toeing around him in the fear of his rages is no way to live and he needs to realise there are real consequences for his actions.
This is domestic abuse and you are all at risk.

Oreyt · 04/11/2024 07:09

What diagnosis are you talking about? I can only see your reply but not what you're replying to?

What's he like with his sister?

GildedRage · 04/11/2024 07:09

@Oreyt that would swiftly land her DH in jail. Very poor idea!

Oreyt · 04/11/2024 07:11

@neerg

Autism and Anxiety is no excuse. I have both. You don't need to be aggressive and destructive. People like to blame their personalities on anything other than themselves.