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How to cope with seeing less of my daughter?

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CloudySkiesAbove · 14/10/2024 11:07

Hi all,

Some background. I'm a divorced dad with a 13yod and a 8yod. I'm happily in a relationship, as is my ex wife. We both have been for the last 6 years, our relationship with bio mum is generally fantastic all round with all parties.

So there has been some changes with my eldest when she turned a teenager. She had gone from being really involved in family activities, quality time together (when she is at ours), when she turned a teenager, she was in her room all the time, didn't really engage much, only to come down for tea or, if we were going on holidays. I understand this is a teenage thing. I'm good with that, as long as she is happy then so am I.

Recently she has started not coming over on the week days they are on my schedule. My youngest loves coming over at any opportunity. She still comes over on the scheduled weekends but again, stuck in her bedroom, no engagement with anything, but the time I've spent with her to check if she is OK she says she fine and is just doing what all teenagers do...

Recently she was meant to come over in the week as scheduled but had another engagement but promised she would come over the following week. She let me down and I was very sad about it, she basically just didnt turn up and didnt tell me until i called her. These instances are becoming more and more often. My gf suggested I have a chat with her just to confirm if she is ok and that we are sad we don't hear from her anymore, she doesn't respond well to texts, basic communication, unless something is in it for her, we don't hear or see her as much. We just want to know why she doesn't want to come round anymore.

Anyway, I had that much needed 121 with her and she was sad that I was sad because I barely see her anymore, and it turns out she just feels more at home at her mums house (which is around the corner). We try so hard to do things with her, exciting things, but she just isn't interested. She admitted she has a closer relationship with her mum which I totally get, they're both female, more common ground, I have no issue with that. But it hurts me when she comes around and just wants to stay in her room the whole time. She said she doesn't want to stop coming round, she just finds it awkward sitting downstairs with us, not knowing what to say, I've said we don't need to talk about anything, it's about being together and spending time with eachother. My girlfriend is really upset that she thinks the way things are now, she is so worried that as my daughter gets older, she feels the relationship with continue to fade and there won't be a relationship between us. They both get on so there is no issue between them. She's more concerned about me and my relationship with my daughter.

Has anyone gone through similar and how did you address or cope with it?

Thank you for reading.

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CloudySkiesAbove · 14/10/2024 18:51

CameronStrike · 14/10/2024 16:10

You think it's rude for a woman to point out to you when you're using a term that's offensive to the mother of your child in a mainly female/mother based forum? You don't think you could have gracefully acknowledged the mistake with your language rather than being sarcastic to the poster who pointed it out?

I wasn't being rude to you, I'm still not. I think you're rude though.

Ok, thanks. 👍

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CloudySkiesAbove · 14/10/2024 18:52

EmmaEmEmz · 14/10/2024 16:14

You sound like a lovely dad!

I'm mum to for kids. One is a 13 year old and one is 12 and honestly, I barely see them. They're both boys, but they're either out with their friends, holed up in their room on tech or at some some sort of club or football training. I know it'd harder when you share time because that becomes even less, but it's honestly a normal part of teenager life. Family days out are few and far between now, and even when we do manage it, they're on their phones.

Keep doing what you're doing - don't put pressure on, make the most of those tiny pockets of time and im sure inna few years time, she will be back under your feet driving you mad

Thank you for this.

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CloudySkiesAbove · 14/10/2024 19:00

BillboardsAreWallpaper · 14/10/2024 16:35

I get you're feeling sad OP. I'm in a similar(ish) situation (but until a few months ago I was the RP for all my DDs). DDs' dad moved closer and having spent more than a decade with them seeing him EOW when their social lives permitted, the eldest two are now based with him.

Yes, I'm sad and a bit hurt, but I never show it to them. My happiness is not their responsibility. And I completely understand that they want to experience day to day life with him rather than a grand event every two weeks.

I regularly text them (not expecting a response) about celeb news, their hobbies, general checking in, updates from our house and suggesting things to do (eg we're taking DD3 for a bite at Pizza Express on Sunday, would be great if you could come too, can pick you up and drop you back).

Just keep the comms open and upbeat.

As others have said, some of the best conversations we've had are in the car taking them to/from places.

To coin a MN expression 'this too shall pass'.

Thank you.

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CloudySkiesAbove · 14/10/2024 19:04

GeorgeTheFirst · 14/10/2024 18:12

This happens with the very great majority of teenagers. They don't want to spend time with their parents and they can just about cope with dealing with the parent in their main home. They don't want to be pushed to communicate with or spend time with other parent. The more you push, the more she will back off. If you really push she will stop coming all together.

You need to back off completely, let her come when she wants to come, and if that is only weekends then accept it. As others have sad, stop asking her questions and try to find transactions that will work, lifts to places, shopping together etc.

This will pass, but whether you will have a good relationship depends on whether you push too hard now. You are playing the long game and you need to remember that what you are hoping for is that she will come back to you at around about university age, rather than voting with her feet completely.

She loves you underneath. She knows that you love her.

She's just a grumpy awkward teenager who has outgrown going to and from her parents' homes and wants to spend most of her time in her main bedroom or with her friends. Accept that and you will have a much better relationship with her when she is an adult.

Thank you. I was just looking for other people's experiences and my eyes have definitley been opened and I'm really grateful for all the very helpful responses. I'm glad I had the 121 with her last night as I now know why she doesn't come around as much, and thanks to all the positive responses in here I will now navigate differently going forward.

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CandyLeBonBon · 14/10/2024 19:38

Just to add op, that my 16 y/o dd is now estranged from her dad (his choice) because he refused to do anything with her, just the two of them. He delegated so much to his gf, my dd felt she was being 'passed off'. I'm sure you're not doing that, but just be mindful that your gf is not always in the picture and you're all expected to play 'happy families'

Teenagers are contrary creatures and often don't make much sense. It's hard and you sound like a caring dad. Coffee and shopping trips can be a life saver (if occasionally expensive) but don't fall into the trap of buying stuff all the time - and cinema trips can also be good as there's no expectation to make small talk.

She'll come through it just in time for you to go through it again with your next one!

CloudySkiesAbove · 14/10/2024 19:47

CandyLeBonBon · 14/10/2024 19:38

Just to add op, that my 16 y/o dd is now estranged from her dad (his choice) because he refused to do anything with her, just the two of them. He delegated so much to his gf, my dd felt she was being 'passed off'. I'm sure you're not doing that, but just be mindful that your gf is not always in the picture and you're all expected to play 'happy families'

Teenagers are contrary creatures and often don't make much sense. It's hard and you sound like a caring dad. Coffee and shopping trips can be a life saver (if occasionally expensive) but don't fall into the trap of buying stuff all the time - and cinema trips can also be good as there's no expectation to make small talk.

She'll come through it just in time for you to go through it again with your next one!

Haha yes, I think I'll be prepared for the next one! Thank you though, I appreciate every word.

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pavillion1 · 14/10/2024 19:59

if it helps we barely see our 14 year old and he lives under our roof .

verabarbleen · 15/10/2024 17:52

@BillboardsAreWallpaper Thankyou 🩷

BillboardsAreWallpaper · 15/10/2024 18:34

BillboardsAreWallpaper · 14/10/2024 16:35

I get you're feeling sad OP. I'm in a similar(ish) situation (but until a few months ago I was the RP for all my DDs). DDs' dad moved closer and having spent more than a decade with them seeing him EOW when their social lives permitted, the eldest two are now based with him.

Yes, I'm sad and a bit hurt, but I never show it to them. My happiness is not their responsibility. And I completely understand that they want to experience day to day life with him rather than a grand event every two weeks.

I regularly text them (not expecting a response) about celeb news, their hobbies, general checking in, updates from our house and suggesting things to do (eg we're taking DD3 for a bite at Pizza Express on Sunday, would be great if you could come too, can pick you up and drop you back).

Just keep the comms open and upbeat.

As others have said, some of the best conversations we've had are in the car taking them to/from places.

To coin a MN expression 'this too shall pass'.

So after 4mths where I've had DD1 stay here just twice in that whole period, she wanted to stay with us last night and then again tonight. Which is lovely.

Maybe it's the start of a more regular pattern of staying here, maybe she's just temporarily fallen out with her dad. I don't know, but it's lovely to have her here and I'm not going to pry or question her - just trying to keep it light and breezy.

CloudySkiesAbove · 15/10/2024 22:08

BillboardsAreWallpaper · 15/10/2024 18:34

So after 4mths where I've had DD1 stay here just twice in that whole period, she wanted to stay with us last night and then again tonight. Which is lovely.

Maybe it's the start of a more regular pattern of staying here, maybe she's just temporarily fallen out with her dad. I don't know, but it's lovely to have her here and I'm not going to pry or question her - just trying to keep it light and breezy.

Ah while I was reading that I felt very happy for you and can imagine how it must have made you feel, but also the fact that she wanted to stay there too, no pressure. I feel alot more relaxed today about the whole situation and am now going to take things nice and easy, natural and casual and see how we go.

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CandyLeBonBon · 16/10/2024 00:36

I really hope it works out for you OP. The teenage years, in some ways, are so much harder than the younger stages. Hold your nerve even when it feels hard. Say 'I love you' even though you probably won't hear it back. Tell her you're there, and really listen when she talks - without judgement or trying to defend your position- and eventually, with a lot of luck, you'll come out either way an understanding and an ability to talk, even if you don't always agree. Best of luck.

I wish my ex had made as much effort as you seem to be making.

BillboardsAreWallpaper · 16/10/2024 10:57

Glad you're feeling more relaxed about it @CloudySkiesAbove. Hope it pans out for you.

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