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Grief of not having a daughter

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calista12 · 08/08/2024 10:01

Before I begin, I know this is going to be a controversial post and that some people may be angered by it, but I have chosen to write it in the hope that someone will have some sympathetic advice.

I have three beautiful little boys, who I adore. Each of them is an amazing little person, with his own personality and incredible outlook on the world. They astound me every day with how wonderful they are and I would not change them for anything.

However, my heart aches for another child - specifically, a daughter - so much so that it is making me extremely sad. I do not voice these feelings out-loud in real life out of fear of being judged as cruel or selfish.

My journey to getting my three boys has not been easy; I've had seven miscarriages, with the first happening before the boys were born. I was almost fifteen weeks, and the baby was a girl. I was devastated at the time, but since having three boys and more miscarriages, the grief of losing my daughter has grown. I wonder all the time what she would have been like. I think, in my head, I've equated her with my only chance of having a daughter, and that's made the grief of losing her grow and grow and grow. I think about her all the time, and it's getting unhealthy, but I don't know what to do. When I did try to mention it to a friend, I was swiftly told to be grateful for what I do have; some people who have miscarriages don't get to have children at all and I'm lucky. It's also difficult to grieve so much for her because she has a different father to my boys, so it's weird for my husband to see me crying over a miscarried baby that wasn't his and clearly longing to have her back. He's even commented, in rows about me being sad, that I don't cry over the other six as much, which makes me feel guilty again.

It isn't a case of wishing the boys I have had been girls, but more of a wanting to have a girl as well. But obviously I can't just keep going on having children! People who know about my miscarriages always say 'oh, you mustn't be able to carry girls', and I hide the pain I feel when they say it because it hurts to hear people say it.

Logically, I know that each child is different. If I had a daughter, there's no guarantee she'd like me, that we'd have a good bond, that they'd be into 'girly' things or anything like that, that she'd even want to identify as a girl as she grew up! I understand all of this, but there's a major conflict between my logical awareness of how utterly silly wanting a daughter is and the unbidden emotional sadness I feel! It's actually quite frustrating and I just want to snap myself out of it. I feel guilty all the time, but the sadness and grief is growing as time passes, not stopping. It's obviously worse now I've had my final child because I know I'm not going to have a daughter at all now.

Does anyone else feel like this?

I know that lots of people view people like me who want a specific gender to be very selfish and horrible people and so I am expecting some nasty comments. But just to reiterate:

  • I am not unhappy with the children I have; it is not about wishing they were different, but about wishing we had a girl as well as them.
  • It is not about being ungrateful for the children I have. My fertility journey has not been easy at all. I am lucky to have my children, I know, and wouldn't say otherwise.
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Luluem · 08/08/2024 10:06

Hi OP - I don’t have any specific advice but didn’t want to just read and run. My friend had been told she was having a girl at one scan, and then that changed to a boy at the next scan, so she’d spent a couple of months thinking she was having a girl. She loves her little boy a lot but she did have to process that feeling and “grieve” in a way for the future she thought she was having, which she then wasn’t. As you say, that’s not to say the girl would have been perfect/girly/bonded more etc, it’s just different to what she thought. I think you probably need to work this through in therapy, as feeling guilt over the feelings isn’t helpful, and an extra layer of judgement on top of the difficult emotions isn’t serving you at all. Hope for the best for you, take care

theduchessofspork · 08/08/2024 10:09

You feel how you feel, and it’s not going to be that unusual. In part you are mourning the baby you lost, which is absolutely natural.

I’m guessing going to a fancy Spanish clinic where they sort the sperm isn’t an option, either financially or otherwise, and as you imply, unless you generally want a 4th child you are unlikely to have the capacity to raise one.

In which case a short course of counselling would probably be a good idea to allow you to bring all your feelings about this and your difficult journey to motherhood so you can process it and move on to the next stage of your life.

You may always be a bit sad you didn’t get a girl, but you can certainly sort it enough that it doesn’t haunt you like this.

Sfxde24 · 08/08/2024 10:12

You’ll get all the standard responses but honestly I would have been very sad to have no daughter. It’s OK to feel wistful about it.

I wouldn’t have more children to get a girl though. It’s just life and you will never know what might have been.

Beamur · 08/08/2024 10:13

I think a lot of women do feel strongly about the sex of their children and having a girl is important.
Maybe your grief is intensified by your loss too?
The persistence of this emotion sounds difficult for you and the responses you've had have not been helpful. Have you considered therapy? Might be helpful.

MoveToParis · 08/08/2024 10:16

Unfortunately I have very little time to reply but what seems to be the issue is that the daughter you miscarried has become a symbol/metaphor for lots of other stuff about your future/how your life is ‘supposed’ to be.
The first step is realising that it isn’t about a daughter it about you.

Therapy is the only way through this- (or a good friendship that can withstand you hearing the things you need to hear but don’t want to)

keepYourDogQuiet · 08/08/2024 10:16

I think it's normal to feel like you do just as it's normal not to. I really really wanted a girl. I 100% loved all my kids equally. They are all amazing but If I hadn't had a girl (or two!) I would have been a little sad.
As adults I spend time with all my kids and I get on brilliantly with them but I'm still glad I have girls.
I don't voice these feelings out loud.

I have an amazing relationship with my Mum. I don't know if that's a factor.

FatmanandKnobbin · 08/08/2024 10:17

I have a mix of boys and girls.

I also have a son who died and a daughter who died.

I miss them, and I think about them every single day.

You would still miss your little girl if you had another daughter op.

It's a very complicated grief when you lose a child, everything you say can come across that you're somehow taking away from the children who are with you to people who haven't experienced such a loss.

I have no real words of advice, other than you do come to an acceptance at some point. It's not an easy path, but you do somehow get there 💐

booksunderthebed · 08/08/2024 10:17

I think your feelings are very normal.

Maybe talk to a counsellor who will help you talk through your grief and sadness at losing your little girl.

OneCandidShark · 08/08/2024 10:19

I think that you are still grieving the daughter you lost - and that is absolutely ok.
I know you probably don’t want to hear this but also you are grieving a future that is imagined. Just because you have a daughter automatically mean you are going to have a super close relationship doing all the girly things.
I am and always have been a real tomboy - much closer to my dad than my mum, much happier stripping down a car engine than faffing with hair and make up or going to a spa. I know I am not the daughter my mum imagined and now she does all those things with my SIL.
As a mother whilst I love both my kids to bits as they grow up I find it much easier do things with my son we share many more interests.
I have to really go out of my comfort zone to do the girly things with my daughter and sometimes I do have to resort to - “would this be more fun with Nan and Auntie X?” My daughter is honest in saying yes.
So what I’m saying is the relationship you might be imagining isn’t automatic and you might end up with a daughter like me who in my mum’s words “might as well have been another lad.”

SquirrelBlue · 08/08/2024 10:21

Like you said there's no guarantee of having a girly girl or a daughter in the way that you might picture but it sounds like for you it's not actually about that. There's a lot of complex grief with multiple layers that you'd benefit from unpicking with a supportive counsellor. You mentioned about her having a different father which makes the grieving more complicated and having multiple other miscarriages. It's a lot to process. I would definitely suggest seeking some supportive counselling to help you work through this.
I'm sorry for your losses. It sounds like you've been through an incredible amount of pain. Look after yourself

familyissues12345 · 08/08/2024 10:22

It's taken me a long time to come to terms with not having another baby - particularly as I would have liked a girl.

Whilst I'm not too old, I had my children young so there would be a huge age gap if we had another now (and DH is older than me), so I shall wait for grandchildren instead..

GodspeedJune · 08/08/2024 10:23

Do you think you could access some counselling? If you feel it’s preoccupying your mind to an unhealthy level then counselling could really help you to process the loss and come to terms with your feelings.

Aussierose2 · 08/08/2024 10:24

As a loss mum I understand how you feel. I had a healthy boy then lost a boy at 37 weeks and I really wanted another boy the next time and I was lucky enough to have one. I would have been disappointed to have a girl even though ultimately a healthy baby is all that mattered and i was very aware of this. It's very difficult when loss is involved ! I would definitely seek some therapy to help you work through these feelings. It's okay to grieve what you have lost but you may need some help with that.

familyissues12345 · 08/08/2024 10:24

familyissues12345 · 08/08/2024 10:22

It's taken me a long time to come to terms with not having another baby - particularly as I would have liked a girl.

Whilst I'm not too old, I had my children young so there would be a huge age gap if we had another now (and DH is older than me), so I shall wait for grandchildren instead..

Wanted to add, mine is made more difficult by 2 MMC 12 years ago, so it took me a long time to accept we wouldn't have the 3 children that we thought we would either.

HoppingPavlova · 08/08/2024 10:30

If I had a daughter, there's no guarantee she'd like me, that we'd have a good bond, that they'd be into 'girly' things or anything like that, that she'd even want to identify as a girl as she grew up

Exactly this. People who want this are banking on either ‘mini-me’s’ or preconceived ideas and there’s nothing to say that a girl would meet either. I have a girl who I love very much BUT we are completely different people, and they are closer to DH than myself due to personality and the types of things they like. Whereas I am closer to some sons because of personality and interests. And others swing somewhere in the middle. So I guess it always amazes me when women want girls thinking it will either be the same as the relationship they had with their mum, or they have a preconceived idea of the relationship they will have with a daughter.

poppymango · 08/08/2024 10:30

theduchessofspork · 08/08/2024 10:09

You feel how you feel, and it’s not going to be that unusual. In part you are mourning the baby you lost, which is absolutely natural.

I’m guessing going to a fancy Spanish clinic where they sort the sperm isn’t an option, either financially or otherwise, and as you imply, unless you generally want a 4th child you are unlikely to have the capacity to raise one.

In which case a short course of counselling would probably be a good idea to allow you to bring all your feelings about this and your difficult journey to motherhood so you can process it and move on to the next stage of your life.

You may always be a bit sad you didn’t get a girl, but you can certainly sort it enough that it doesn’t haunt you like this.

Sort the sperm? Is that really a thing?! 😮

calista12 · 08/08/2024 10:34

HoppingPavlova · 08/08/2024 10:30

If I had a daughter, there's no guarantee she'd like me, that we'd have a good bond, that they'd be into 'girly' things or anything like that, that she'd even want to identify as a girl as she grew up

Exactly this. People who want this are banking on either ‘mini-me’s’ or preconceived ideas and there’s nothing to say that a girl would meet either. I have a girl who I love very much BUT we are completely different people, and they are closer to DH than myself due to personality and the types of things they like. Whereas I am closer to some sons because of personality and interests. And others swing somewhere in the middle. So I guess it always amazes me when women want girls thinking it will either be the same as the relationship they had with their mum, or they have a preconceived idea of the relationship they will have with a daughter.

This is what I mean, I'm not wanting a daughter because I'm banking on a mini-me or a girly girl, because I know that might not happen ... I don't know what it is. I wish it was as simple as I want someone to be like me and dress in pink, at least then it'd make sense and I'd be able to tell myself it's stupid. I don't get why I want a daughter - like I said, it's like logic and emotion are fighting and I just have these feelings I don't understand at all.

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Shibr · 08/08/2024 10:40

It might help to list the exact things you think having a girl will bring you.

SallyWD · 08/08/2024 10:46

Don't feel bad - you can't help how you feel. It seems many women really want a daughter and I'm sure the reasons are complex. I hope you can come to peace with not having a daughter. I think boys are brilliant and my son is such a joy!

keepYourDogQuiet · 08/08/2024 10:52

I wish it was as simple as I want someone to be like me and dress in pink, at least then it'd make sense and I'd be able to tell myself it's stupid

Can't you just accept that feelings aren't always that logical. Accept it for what it is. You are sad you don't have a girl. That's ok.
It doesn't mean you love your boys any less or that you are disappointed in them in any way.

Don't bother overthinking this.

natava · 08/08/2024 10:52

I understand how you feel and I would have felt exactly the same if I didn’t have a daughter. I had a boy first and desperately wanted a daughter for my second. We tried natural methods of gender selection - the Shettles method and eliminating caffeine and increasing dairy. Luckily this worked (although there is a 50/50 chance anyway) as I know I would have been disappointed if it didn’t.

Like you I couldn’t figure out why I wanted a girl so much and never admitted my feelings to anyone. I think I just wanted to parent the same sex as myself - we are in the teenage years now and there are definitely more conflicts with my daughter than my son!

I think your feelings will pass with time as your lovely boys get older and you adjust to the family you have rather than the family you thought you would have.

Sneed · 08/08/2024 11:11

Op, what caused your relationship with your previous partner to end? Do you have some unresolved feelings over the father of the daughter you miscarried?

WonderingAboutBabies · 08/08/2024 11:11

Hi OP,

It must be difficult, I can't relate but can only sympathise. One thing I would say though is perhaps seek out counselling? I only say this as I don't think it's normal to constantly be thinking about it, and you say your grief has only grown over the years. It may be worth looking into, as it'd give you a safe space to discuss and navigate your feelings x

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 08/08/2024 11:13

HoppingPavlova · 08/08/2024 10:30

If I had a daughter, there's no guarantee she'd like me, that we'd have a good bond, that they'd be into 'girly' things or anything like that, that she'd even want to identify as a girl as she grew up

Exactly this. People who want this are banking on either ‘mini-me’s’ or preconceived ideas and there’s nothing to say that a girl would meet either. I have a girl who I love very much BUT we are completely different people, and they are closer to DH than myself due to personality and the types of things they like. Whereas I am closer to some sons because of personality and interests. And others swing somewhere in the middle. So I guess it always amazes me when women want girls thinking it will either be the same as the relationship they had with their mum, or they have a preconceived idea of the relationship they will have with a daughter.

I think this is outrageously unfair.

You've made up this whole scenario in your mind about what people who want a daughter actually want, smugly sitting up there on your high horse with both sexes.

I have only boys. I'm quite happy with only boys, but sometimes I do idly wish I'd been able to have a daughter as well.

it's not because I want a mini-me, or want to do 'girly' things with her, or anything like that - it would just be nice to have that experience.

Why do any of us have children, if not just because we want to, we want to experience being parents, and the "whole" experience (if you will) is to have at least one boy and one girl.

@calista12 I'm genuinely sorry this is making you so upset. You're right it's not logical, but I can see how your miscarriages will have heightened the feelings. Would some counselling help? Just to have someone to talk it through with? I imagine the reason you have posted here is because you can't really talk about it in real life with any impartiality.

calista12 · 08/08/2024 11:19

Sneed · 08/08/2024 11:11

Op, what caused your relationship with your previous partner to end? Do you have some unresolved feelings over the father of the daughter you miscarried?

We were only young (he was 18, I was 16) and he just left me after I lost her. Literally blocked my number and hasn't spoken to me in the decade since.

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