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Grief of not having a daughter

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calista12 · 08/08/2024 10:01

Before I begin, I know this is going to be a controversial post and that some people may be angered by it, but I have chosen to write it in the hope that someone will have some sympathetic advice.

I have three beautiful little boys, who I adore. Each of them is an amazing little person, with his own personality and incredible outlook on the world. They astound me every day with how wonderful they are and I would not change them for anything.

However, my heart aches for another child - specifically, a daughter - so much so that it is making me extremely sad. I do not voice these feelings out-loud in real life out of fear of being judged as cruel or selfish.

My journey to getting my three boys has not been easy; I've had seven miscarriages, with the first happening before the boys were born. I was almost fifteen weeks, and the baby was a girl. I was devastated at the time, but since having three boys and more miscarriages, the grief of losing my daughter has grown. I wonder all the time what she would have been like. I think, in my head, I've equated her with my only chance of having a daughter, and that's made the grief of losing her grow and grow and grow. I think about her all the time, and it's getting unhealthy, but I don't know what to do. When I did try to mention it to a friend, I was swiftly told to be grateful for what I do have; some people who have miscarriages don't get to have children at all and I'm lucky. It's also difficult to grieve so much for her because she has a different father to my boys, so it's weird for my husband to see me crying over a miscarried baby that wasn't his and clearly longing to have her back. He's even commented, in rows about me being sad, that I don't cry over the other six as much, which makes me feel guilty again.

It isn't a case of wishing the boys I have had been girls, but more of a wanting to have a girl as well. But obviously I can't just keep going on having children! People who know about my miscarriages always say 'oh, you mustn't be able to carry girls', and I hide the pain I feel when they say it because it hurts to hear people say it.

Logically, I know that each child is different. If I had a daughter, there's no guarantee she'd like me, that we'd have a good bond, that they'd be into 'girly' things or anything like that, that she'd even want to identify as a girl as she grew up! I understand all of this, but there's a major conflict between my logical awareness of how utterly silly wanting a daughter is and the unbidden emotional sadness I feel! It's actually quite frustrating and I just want to snap myself out of it. I feel guilty all the time, but the sadness and grief is growing as time passes, not stopping. It's obviously worse now I've had my final child because I know I'm not going to have a daughter at all now.

Does anyone else feel like this?

I know that lots of people view people like me who want a specific gender to be very selfish and horrible people and so I am expecting some nasty comments. But just to reiterate:

  • I am not unhappy with the children I have; it is not about wishing they were different, but about wishing we had a girl as well as them.
  • It is not about being ungrateful for the children I have. My fertility journey has not been easy at all. I am lucky to have my children, I know, and wouldn't say otherwise.
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itsmeagainagain · 08/08/2024 11:21

I can understand that. I have two girls and was desperate to also have a boy and I sometimes feel sad that will never happen now. normal feelings

Peonies12 · 08/08/2024 11:22

I think you should get some counselling around this, it's bigger than the sex of your existing kids, it's about the grief from baby loss. You can't help how you feel. i hope a professional counsellor will help you to accept this and be able to fully enjoy your kids. I don't think having another child would be a solution to this.

OriginalUsername2 · 08/08/2024 11:25

I completely understand. I always very strongly felt I would have a daughter from a very young age and was physically shocked that my first was a boy. I have had friends that have had a few boys and then finally that yearned for girl. It’s very common! I have no idea why, but please don't worry that there’s something wrong with you.

calista12 · 08/08/2024 11:26

Peonies12 · 08/08/2024 11:22

I think you should get some counselling around this, it's bigger than the sex of your existing kids, it's about the grief from baby loss. You can't help how you feel. i hope a professional counsellor will help you to accept this and be able to fully enjoy your kids. I don't think having another child would be a solution to this.

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I'm not going to have another child, but I will look into therapy, thank you

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calista12 · 08/08/2024 11:26

OriginalUsername2 · 08/08/2024 11:25

I completely understand. I always very strongly felt I would have a daughter from a very young age and was physically shocked that my first was a boy. I have had friends that have had a few boys and then finally that yearned for girl. It’s very common! I have no idea why, but please don't worry that there’s something wrong with you.

Thank you for this <3 x

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Drachuughtty · 08/08/2024 11:26

Op your post is so sad. You have every right to feel exactly as you do. I can't believe anyone would try to shut your feelings down or minimise them.
I haven't rtft but it sounds like your guilt about your grief and feeling like it isn't valid is making it worse:

There's a major conflict between my logical awareness of how utterly silly wanting a daughter is and the unbidden emotional sadness I feel!

I feel guilty all the time, but the sadness and grief is growing as time passes, not stopping.

It sounds like a classic case of "What you resist persists". I suggest that your sadness and grief needs a proper space to be heard and felt and processed without being shut down either by you (because you think it's illogical or not valid) or by others. All the other points about being grateful for what you have, not wanting a mini me etc are all irrelevant to your heart which is grieving and asking to be heard.

I agree with a pp about finding a good counsellor ideally with experience of working with baby kids and complicated grief, so you can give your grief it's proper place without judgement.

vanana · 08/08/2024 11:27

You sound like you have had a long, hard road to having children.

Perhaps you could reframe it - be happy that the long road to having children has been completed and that you are no longer in that very difficult phase of life.

Now you have 3 boys, I would try to focus on their lives going forwards.

OmLidia · 08/08/2024 11:28

FatmanandKnobbin · 08/08/2024 10:17

I have a mix of boys and girls.

I also have a son who died and a daughter who died.

I miss them, and I think about them every single day.

You would still miss your little girl if you had another daughter op.

It's a very complicated grief when you lose a child, everything you say can come across that you're somehow taking away from the children who are with you to people who haven't experienced such a loss.

I have no real words of advice, other than you do come to an acceptance at some point. It's not an easy path, but you do somehow get there 💐

🌸🤍

Drachuughtty · 08/08/2024 11:28

Sorry, I meant baby *loss.

Kebarbra · 08/08/2024 11:29

You can't help how you feel, men who say they'd prefer a son aren't criticised as much as the women who say they'd have liked to have a daughter. It sounds like you've worked through these thoughts rationally and mentioned some good points, but you're allowed to feel how you feel.

BestZebbie · 08/08/2024 11:29

If you have three boys with the same father and your only known female pregnancy was with a different man, it seems likely that your partner has a strong bias towards producing male children - so if you carry on having babies with him you are reasonably likely to end up with six sons but still no daughter.
If it makes you feel better, this also means that it is unlikely you miscarried all daughters if most were fathered by the father of your three boys.

WhatThenEh · 08/08/2024 11:30

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Drogdab · 08/08/2024 11:34

One of my cousins & a friend desperately wanted a son, but both only had daughters. They wanted the dad son bond they had, shared activities etc but both now years on don’t even think about it as they have fantastic relationships with their daughters.

ThePoshUns · 08/08/2024 11:35

I hear you OP.
I have two, now adult sons who I adore and am close to.
I would have loved to have a daughter. I too have had miscarriages and although I don't know the sex of those babies I often wonder if they would have been girls.
I have close friends with daughters and I can't help but feel sad when I see their photos of them going for weekends away or to concerts together. I would love someone to do 'girly stuff ' with.
I am close to my Mum and she often says she feels sorry for me not having a daughter ( I have brothers who aren't as close to my parents).
I am hoping to have close relationships with future daughter in laws and maybe one day a granddaughter.
You feel what you feel OP.

Drogdab · 08/08/2024 11:35

As pp said you are also grieving loss.

Drogdab · 08/08/2024 11:37

@ThePoshUns can you not do concerts & weekends away with a son?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 08/08/2024 11:37

💐for you, OP.

It's not wrong to feel the way you do.

I had miscarriages before my first child was born, but they were all early so I don't know whether I was carrying boys or girls.

My first child was a boy and I love him so much. When TTC my second I told myself I didn't care whether we had a girl or another boy as long as we were able to have a second child and he or she was healthy.

In the end my second child was a girl and I was secretly delighted about it. If I'd had another boy I would have loved him just as much but I think a small part of me would have been a bit sad never getting to raise a daughter.

In your case I think your grief is amplified by the fact that you had such a late miscarriage and you know she was a girl. You're imagining how your life would have been different if she had survived.

At the same time, you say she wasn't your husband's child, so presumably you got pregnant with an ex partner that time. If your daughter had lived, would your whole life have been different? Is there a chance you would never have met your husband and had your three boys?

Rather than continuing to have more babies, which I think would be a bad idea, I suggest having some counselling to help you deal with your feelings, and enjoying every moment with the three lovely boys you do have. Maybe one day you will have a granddaughter.

Drogdab · 08/08/2024 11:38

And if it helps I am very close to DHs Mum, he has an amazing relationship with her (better than mine with my mum) despite having sisters.

WhatThenEh · 08/08/2024 11:39

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ThePoshUns · 08/08/2024 11:41

Drogdab · 08/08/2024 11:37

@ThePoshUns can you not do concerts & weekends away with a son?

We do spend time together and go away as a family but they like sport ( I don't) , we don't have the same taste in music. It's silly things like Mums and daughters going off to see Taylor Swift/ Justin Timberlake.
Going for nice brunches in pretty places. All superficial I know!

Noseybookworm · 08/08/2024 11:41

Your sadness at not having a daughter is caught up with your loss I think. Perfectly understandable and it's not wrong to feel how you feel. You can be grateful for your wonderful boys and still grieve the loss of your daughter. Please look into some grief counselling and support groups for miscarriage/baby loss. It could really help to talk to other mothers who've been through what you've been through. And be kind to yourself, your sadness is absolutely understandable 💐

Sdpbody · 08/08/2024 11:44

I have two girls and the clear jealousy that my three close friends have for me is quite upsetting.

Their boys are "in the boy gang" , they like to "hang out without girls", "girls will be so difficult in their teenager years"... however, when they are all drunk, they get so emotional saying they wish they had girls, and that their sons will grow up and leave them.

Drogdab · 08/08/2024 11:44

@ThePoshUns i used to go to pop concerts with my dad & we do brunch much more frequently as we are foodies. Mum is always dieting & hates pop music 😆

calista12 · 08/08/2024 11:45

Thank you everyone for your comments. A lot of people are advising me not to have anymore children. Just to be clear, I am not intending to have anymore children. I know I said in my post that my heart aches for another child, but I also said lower down that my third boy was my final child and I will not be having anymore children. I know everyone is different, but it wouldn't be fair for me, with how strongly I want a daughter, to have another child who could be a boy. These feelings of wanting a girl have only really surfaced since I had my third child, perhaps because, before that point, I still thought I'd have a girl. As such, none of my children were born in the 'hope' of having a daughter - it's just that after having my third boy, I keep thinking about my first and how I won't have one now, if that makes more sense :)

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Drogdab · 08/08/2024 11:48

they get so emotional saying they wish they had girls, and that their sons will grow up and leave them.

In real life I find daughters tend to have far more complicated relationships with their mums, just look at all the threads on MNs. Growing up my friends and I most moaned about our mothers.

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