Sick of the Naked Bike Ride

[HardyEM]

Hello I'm posting about the York- World Naked Bike Ride ob 29th June 2023 @ 4.15pm. This year I've decided enough is enough and as a York mum I'm going to go along and tell them so (North Yorkshire police have also been informed).

Having your cock and balls (overwhelming majority of naked participants are men) out in public isn't OK on any other day of the week - even if they are virtuous, net zero, climate saving ones.

No one really believes it's OK for adults to parade around naked in front of families and children in public without their consent and why should we have to stay at home? So this year I'll be there to collect evidence and respectfully handing out some pants.

'The Emperor's New Clothes'

The NBR went past our city centre apartment a few years back. We lived on a road overlooking the event at the time. Dd was a toddler so did see them ride by but I don't think she really even noticed particularly. They cycled by fairly quickly.

But then we had naked, or nearly naked, revellers down that road in the early hours at times.

Sounds like a load of old bollocks to me.

And we got a much bigger eyeful at the two naked ramblers when we were driving over Winnet's Pass a couple of years or so ago.

A youngish looking couple hiking through the village and roads of Castletown wearing nothing more than hiking boots and socks, and a small backpack.

My main thought was that they were very brave! It was really cold, being winter time!

Otoh, it gives the skanky flashers an opportunity to do it legally on occasion.

For the love of God will you please stop equating these people with flashers @SirChenjins

Flashing is an aggressive act meant to frighten women. Men who flash often start like that (Wayne Cozens) and go on to rape or murder women.

If you're seriously thinking there are Wayne Cozens types in these cycle rides, getting a kick, waving their penises around at women who just want to carry on doing their shopping (or even having a laugh at all the shapes and sizes on display), you're not living on the same planet as most of us.

And more seriously it's minimising flashing which is a very abhorrent thing.

I have seen a naked cycle ride (purely by chance) when I didn't know it was taking place. I can honestly say there is nothing remotely sexy, offensive or threatening about seeing a cold willy hiding somewhere near the saddle. In fact it was hard to see anything at all.

Good for you - and I’ll call them flashers (and the other terms I’ve used to describe them) if I do choose. You do you etc.

Well, you're minimising something very serious. Sexual violence against women.

But that's your choice.

You do you- always the old fave when someone wants to try a 'put down'. Shame it doesn't work 😂

Not at all - quite the opposite. There will be men who use this event to exert power over women and children by exposing themselves in this way (at one event a bloke had to be escorted away with a hard on - that was one who was caught, let’s not pretend that was a one-off) and no woman should feel she has to check whether this event is going on in her local area before she uses a public space. There doesn’t have to be sexual violence - just not wanting to be in the presence of naked men is enough.

No put down intended - you’d have known if I had. 😂

have seen a naked cycle ride (purely by chance) when I didn't know it was taking place. I can honestly say there is nothing remotely sexy, offensive or threatening about seeing a cold willy hiding somewhere near the saddle. In fact it was hard to see anything at all.

Agree . There was nothing much to see. They moved quite a bit quicker than walking pace .

Have you seen one @SirChenjins ?

Given my views on this which you’re now well away of, why on earth do you think I would have gone to watch one?

Given my views on this which you’re now well away of, why on earth do you think I would have gone to watch one?

I didn't " go to watch one " It cycled past.

Given your views I thought you'd want to be properly informed about the occasion.

So No you haven't.

No, I haven’t - I have no desire to be part of anyone’s fetish.

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I have no doubt that the men doing this get a sexual thrill out of imposing their naked bodies on unwitting adults and children. Just as men who otherwise commit indecent exposure really enjoy forcing women and children to have to look at their genitals. Absolutely revolting.

Do you have any evidence for this? Or did you just pluck it out of the air?

No, I haven’t - I have no desire to be part of anyone’s fetish.

Hmm, " fetish " wasn't what sprang to mind.
It was something more like " rudimentary".
It was quite a chilly day.

Were you looking?

Tbh they whizzed past. And It's a moving target.

It was more of an impression of a lot of pale flesh.

It’s ok - if you were curious that’s fine.

I was totally intrigued. And yep I know it's fine.

I’m sure you were.

And on that note, goodnight 😊

My point is it wasn't threatening, oppressive or sexual .

It was a curiosity.

I have no doubt that the men doing this get a sexual thrill out of imposing their naked bodies on unwitting adults and children. Just as men who otherwise commit indecent exposure really enjoy forcing women and children to have to look at their genitals. Absolutely revolting.

Sounds like bollocks @MrMotivatorsLeotard
First and foremost the people who do this are cyclists. Not sexual perverts or abusers of women.

There's so much wrong in your post. It's your opinion - not fact.

I don't think there is much of a sexual thrill cycling in the cold, naked.
They aren't there to 'impose' their bodies on anyone. This is because the route is signposted well ahead, there are barriers around it (to keep cars out) and no one has to watch.

So your 'unwitting' doesn't apply.

And you're another poster who's conflating a cycle ride naked with an abusive, aggressive sexual act- indecent exposure.

This is actually minimising indecent exposure where a man does it as an act of aggression to frighten a woman and often leads to rape - rapists often start as flashers.

You do realise too that a lot of the cyclists are women? Do they get a sexual thrill out of flashing their breasts at unwitting bystanders?

Did you see my post upthread?
I don’t think for a moment that all the men (or indeed women) doing this are perverts but the chap I mentioned who had previous, do you think I am going too far in imputing a sexual motive to him?

I wonder whether the hippy cyclists doing it for all the ‘right’ reasons give a toss about the perverts they are facilitating?
Because some of the people joining in will be starting their journey towards some fetish or another- voyeurism, exhibitionism, flashing, leading to worse.

We have boundaries for a reason, and busting those boundaries needs careful thought about the consequences and implications.

"some of the people joining in will be starting their journey towards some fetish or another- voyeurism, exhibitionism, flashing, leading to worse"

How many is 'some'?

How sure are you that if these people didn't join in a naked bike ride they would never develop a fetish by another route? That the naked bike ride is the proximate and essential cause?

What is the real level of risk? How have you quantified it?

Are you trying to take an activity that is in fact innocuous and seek to denigrate it by innuendo and association because you don't like it?

Are you simply dressing up good old-fashioned prudery in modern clothes - "enabling perverts and sex offenders" in contrast to the "contrary to the Will of God" that was popular in times gone by (and apparently still is in some religious circles)?

I don’t think so. I think some boundaries do/did need challenging. Votes for all, for example. I don’t know what boundaries we should be challenging at the moment. I suspect we need to stuff a few cats back in their bags, but imagine there are some that still need releasing.

Why was the naked rambler arrested so many times?
Why don’t we want people wandering around naked in general?

Why is this different?

Strangely I’m not too bothered by the old fashioned streakers that used to run onto the pitch at sports events.

Naked people en masse? More bothered.