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My 5yo was left alone outside the school

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EezyOozy · 05/12/2023 11:46

Hi,

I’m going for a meeting with the headteacher of my daughters school later on today and wanted to be prepared. I have already written complaint via email which has triggered this meeting.

Last Friday. We had quite severe snow and ice and I couldn’t get my car out of my property for a few minutes… Long story short I was a few minutes late for pick up. I am never normally late, I don’t think I have ever been late before … need to make that very clear! This was a one off due to extreme weather.

When I arrived at the school, my five-year-old was standing outside on the pavement by herself, crying. There were other people around, but nobody that really knows my daughter, and certainly nobody had noticed her standing there, everybody was just leaving.

There is a different teacher on a Friday to who is there from the rest of the week.

It appears this teacher had led the children down the steps and out of the school, not bothered to check who had an adult there to collect them, and who didn’t.

She then went back up the steps, through the gate, through another gate, back into the playground towards the classroom (round the corner, and behind a wall), which is where I eventually found her standing chatting.

she hadn’t gone completely back into the classroom, but she may as well have done.

She was completely out of my daughters sight and through a gate that cannot be opened by a child from the other side. And was also behind a wall/around the corner.

nothing that bad happened, apart from my daughter, being quite shaken and upset… but it could have done. I did try and phone the office when I realised I was going to be slightly late, but nobody answered. What if I had been 20 minutes late, or had an accident and not turned up at all… these things happen. Not to mention the extreme weather and ice… What if my daughter had tried to walk home by herself or wondered off somewhere else.

My main issues are that the teacher did not check whether or not a parent or guardian was there to collect each child. And simply left her on the pavement outside of the school! The second issue is that she then removed herself … completely out of sight and earshot , and had no idea that my daughter was standing there… Surely they should wait close by?

I’m wondering what to say to the head and how seriously this should be taken.

Do I have a right to ask for the schools, written policies about pick up procedure / what should happen if a child is not collected on time?

I’m worried I’m going to be palmed off , but I simply don’t trust this teacher at all anymore! When I confronted the teacher she just said “oh sorry… I didn’t realise!”

yes of course you didn’t realise… You didn’t do any checks or bother supervise the children properly, so how could you possibly have realised!

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PuttingDownRoots · 05/12/2023 11:49

If the scholarship policy is that 5yos need to be picked up (which it normally is in England, I know Scotland is more relaxed and we won't mention other European Countries) then the teacher failed massively.

EezyOozy · 05/12/2023 11:50

I am in Scotland

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EezyOozy · 05/12/2023 11:50

I’m unsure what to say in terms of what action I would like to see taken. I’m not happy to just be palmed off with a breezy apology. I think they need to treat this as a very serious near miss.

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BlueChampagne · 05/12/2023 11:51

You should read the school's Safeguarding policy which should be available on the website. If not, absolutely ask for a copy from the office.

So glad nothing bad happened, but school needs to sort this out pronto.

fedupandstuck · 05/12/2023 11:51

There's no excuse for this. A reception aged child should be handed to a specific known adult at pick up. Certainly someone at the school should have been aware that your DD had not been picked up. The teacher's response was also very poor.

I'd be asking to see their policies on this, and to ask how they will ensure that nothing like this can happen again.

EezyOozy · 05/12/2023 11:51

Also considering raising with the local authority, depending on what is said during today’s meeting. I’ve never been in a situation like this before, this is my oldest child….

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BlochAroundTheClock · 05/12/2023 11:53

I wouldn't blame you for raising it with everyone you can think of. I would be raging and rightly or wrongly after a scalp OP, and they would have to work very hard to regain my trust ☹️

EezyOozy · 05/12/2023 11:54

Thank uou@BlochAroundTheClock I’m raging. After a scalp describes pretty much how I feel.

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gotomomo · 05/12/2023 11:55

Find out the school policy, should be online. Generally children are told to look for their adult and remain in school if they can't see them, it varies by school, but it's not a given each is handed over unless sen. Either way the school messed up but it may be that they had not clearly explained to your dd she was to go back inside if she couldn't see you

EezyOozy · 05/12/2023 11:55

I’ll look for the policy now …

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Mothmansknickers · 05/12/2023 11:56

They're shit-hot in my DD's school when it comes to handing a child over to a parent. If a different person comes to pick up, they won't allow it unless it has been prearranged. I would hit the roof if I found my child waiting alone.

SErunner · 05/12/2023 11:57

Jesus that's awful. Regardless of policy or whatever there shouldn't be a scenario where a 5 year old is stood outside on their own. If she didn't understand where she was supposed to wait that's their failure for not explaining it properly. I'd be wanting clear actions identified that they are going to take to ensure it won't happen again.

Mydustymonstera · 05/12/2023 11:57

That’s really, really poor. Thank goodness she was ok and you’re doing the right thing raising it formally.

SErunner · 05/12/2023 11:58

If their responses isn't satisfactory or if you don't feel they are taking it seriously, yes I would escalate to the local authority

SwishSwashSwooshSwersh · 05/12/2023 11:59

This is a safeguarding issue. You need to know how they will prevent a repeat

pikkumyy77 · 05/12/2023 12:00

F

Allaboutthepeople · 05/12/2023 12:03

Yeah that shouldn’t happened.

It was totally normal when I was young though. We were herded out of the school door and left there for our parents to find.

My, kindly but naive, Dad once found a little five year old girl outside the infants school by herself crying as her Mum never arrived to pick her up and all the other kids and parents had left (yes, the school ground were open as a through route to the shops) so he took her by the hand and offered to take her home if she led the way. And off they went. Five year old walking from school with random unknown man!

Ostryga · 05/12/2023 12:03

Thank god she was ok. I would be beyond angry and raising it as a formal complaint to OFSTED or the Scottish equivalent. Don’t be afraid to go all guns blazing op, that can never, ever happen again.

randomsabreuse · 05/12/2023 12:10

My P1 is only allowed "out" when I am seen, think the P2s have the same arrangement. I'm lurking between 2 doors with a bias to the P1 door for my older one but P4s are allowed to find their own grown ups on the (small) playground.

The only exception was in P2 when a child who's house was visible from the school door was allowed to go there independently when his mum waved to the teacher from the door...

BubbleBubbleBubbleBubblePop · 05/12/2023 12:26

This is a safeguarding issue OP.

When you said "which is where I eventually found her standing chatting." who was she chatting to? A teacher? Was she not alone?

EDIT - Sorry, the "she" was the teacher, my error.

Mariposista · 05/12/2023 12:31

This is terrible! Aren’t all kids taken to the office/late room if not collected? If not, why not?

Seeline · 05/12/2023 12:38

Definitely ask to see their policy if you can't find it on line.
Definitely ask how this happened, and how are they going to prevent it from happening again.

EssexCat · 05/12/2023 12:45

Yep. I’d be fuming too. And I imagine the head is!

This is not ok - and at my school would be taken very seriously indeed.

Cheeesus · 05/12/2023 12:46

I would find your school’s policy for late pick up.

helpfulperson · 05/12/2023 12:46

I agree Scotland is more relaxed but p1s should still be seen to be collected. However this is also why it is so important to teach even very young children what to do if they realise they are not with the adult looking after them. A short script and how to decide which adult to ask can make a big difference in any of the situations where a child suddenly finds themselves alone.