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To say yes or no to mil takeing lo out pumpkin picking?

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:18

I'm in an abusive relationship, me and my partner moved in to the house he bought 1 day before induction. His behaviour changed the day we moved in.

i was a 2min walk from mils House and within a 4min drive was his entire family (its a big family). I felt very isolated because mil tried to be very kind to me but then always did something the next day, tell me she should get a say in the child because shes the nana. Pressuring me in to sleepovers with lo, then tell her family I'm not letting her be a nana so the they would all bring it up and say I'm being controlling of my child. Ringing 15x a day, none stop turning up. Asking her not to kiss my child's lips and does it again and again infront of me. Telling me I'm controlling my child and not letting partner look after lo, yet he REFUSED to do ANY thing for lo qhen I would beg and cry for him to just give me some damn eye contact and stop turning the telly up over my voice. She did a lot more but yh.

Her and her family have always acted like they've never done a thing wrong to me, despite them talking behind my back and many other things. Mil spreads lies to everyone about me and now when I see even the parts of the family I've had no conflict with, feel uncomfortable vibes. But if i say anything about it or show any dislike towards towards anyone, I'm a horrible person and after everything all the kind things she's done for me, how dare I spread lies about her.

my view of mil started warped because I was quite impressionable. I was young, I had an abusive mother growing up and so I was enabling their behaviour towards me without relising because I didn't know any different.

Partner would go to mils and lie about my reactions, he would bully me, laugh at me, mock me, refuse eye contact, sarcasm, stone wall me, gaslight me, tell me the things he did didn't happen and that I'm crazy. I don't wanna make it too long but he's a shit person, lacks empathy. He was also a very uninvolved dad, I did everything. But, mil believed him his every word. I tried reaching out to clear my name and tell the truth but no one qould hear me. she'd start spreading rumours about me being a good for nothing lazy mum, I spend his money and just sit at home doing nothing (I didn't see any of his money despite him earing a tone and spending every day doing things for him and the house). she'd gaslight me and turn all the things he'd do on to me, that because I'm lazy and abusive to HIM he isn't nice to me back. That I'm crazy and need help because all I do is lie, that I lie about everything and his son wouldn't lie and I'm a horrible person for hateing her for no reason. In text messages she'd even lie about the things she'd done to me, to create this image of me literally being so crazy and a pathological liar. She wanted me to belive that I'l don't remeber anything right too and feel like I'm the person she's painting me out to be. Everyone in the area thinks I'm abusive to him, "partner" took the computer away from me the other day because I didn't listen to him. He hid it at his mils House and they were all cheering him on for standing up for himself against me, saying that he is afraid of me and I control the house and him.

They are literally cheering his abuse towards me on.. I feel so alone :/

I got told I had ptsd from a doctor because of the abuse and that I never lied . Again she called me a liar and said its the abuse from my childhood that's makeing me crazy. Saying again that I'm the abuser, kept makeing up and so on. I've been suffering a lot mentally and they all used the house looking like a mess as a way way bully me and call me a lazy, bad mum and abusing partners kindness. It's the main comeback they use against me.
I think i just really wanted to be belived because no one around me did and I thought I had proof to shut their lies down, I was so wrong.
I didn't do anything wrong other than try to set boundaries regarding my child and she despised me for it.

Anyway, she has lo every Sunday. 5 weeks ago after a row with her when I told her about the ptsd. I said enough is enough. You cant all treat me like this then expect to happily come to my door and get my chikd? Where I am disliked and unwelcome, so is my child. If I can't even trust you not to tell a single lie, how can I trust u with my child?
She kept asking me over and over why I'm so nasty and would be so selfish on lo and her, when I'd answer she'd ask me again as if she was searching for the truth vecause apparantly I kept lying to her about the things she was doing to me. She kept telling me that she's never done a thing wrong to me and I attacked her first, that she's done so many kind things for me and all she's even been is good to me and now im showing my true colors by useing my child against her. That I'm cruel etc

I stood by ground but let lo go last Sunday because I was feeling so guilty as lo was asking me to visit, I didn't care about mil but hurting my child was never part of the plan.

It's Sunday today and she's asked again. Shes been acting like the kind woman again as if NOTHING happened.. messaging me normally, talking to me normally she got lo at the door the other week.
She was to take lo on a big drive away for pumpkin picking. I've had car safety issues with her and it's just the person she is, I don't like her. After everything she has done to me? Deep down I do trust her with lo and despite everything she is a good nana, I don't want fued to get in the way of haveing an involved nana but my god .. she is HORRIBLE to me. Its like, if I'm unwelcome and so disliked by a group of people why should I hand my chikd over to them?
What do I do? Just give in and let her have lo every Sunday. I havnt been able to take lo pumpkin picking this year either so I feel envy and jealousy that someone who has treated me so badly gets to do the very thing I wanted to do with lo, and that I am unwelcome and can't even go with them?

Sorry this was long, I dont know how to make it simpler as so much has happened. Im also not the best at writing and explaining so I do apologise

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:21

Btw I am in the process of secretly leaving, if they actually knew how close I was to leaving they'd try to control me. "Partner" would try to take the money I'm not getting and saveing for the move.

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sandyhappypeople · 29/10/2023 09:25

Maybe they do know how close you are to leaving.. I wouldn’t let little one out of your sight.

Applesandpears23 · 29/10/2023 09:27

Can you take your daughter pumpkin picking today?

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YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 29/10/2023 09:29

Can you go and stay with a friend til you have your ducks in a row? You need to get away from them all.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:29

Also, partner has touched lo multiple times. When I finally told the truth (I kept it back because i had no proof and with all the gaslighting, I felt like i was looking my sanity and maybe I am actually crazy and don't remeber things right.
I know I did.
So I brought it up and again, they all SCREAMED down the phone calling me a physco and that I'm the most vile person in the world and have such a warped memory. That I'm makeing false accusations etc

I said let's fine out who the liars are go do a lie detector test. They refused and said they don't need to as they know I'm a liar and make false accusations about everything.

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:32

I would love to but I don't drive, I'd have to get a taxi and I can't afford it. I wanted to go really badly and got her a nice pumpkin dress for it, but I couldn't afford it even if I wanted to and it sucks. Halloween my favorite holiday and I feel as thought I'm letting her down by not only takeing her, but refusing to let mil take her.

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drspouse · 29/10/2023 09:34

Would you be able to go with MIL and your DD?

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 09:35

What do you mean hrs touched her?

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:37

How do I respond to her message?
"Hi. I was wondering if we could have lo tommorow. We were hoping to take her pumpkin picking if the weather is ok. Let me know what you think thanks"

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:39

Yh.. he touched lo. And no one believes me and instead of hearing the "accusations" they've used it as fuel to make out I'm physco and crazy even more.
I can't even do anything about it because I have no proof but just my word again his and his entire family who find it their mission to lie and collectively fourm stories to make out I truly am insane.

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Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 09:39

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:39

Yh.. he touched lo. And no one believes me and instead of hearing the "accusations" they've used it as fuel to make out I'm physco and crazy even more.
I can't even do anything about it because I have no proof but just my word again his and his entire family who find it their mission to lie and collectively fourm stories to make out I truly am insane.

How did you discover this? What has he done?

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 29/10/2023 09:41

When you say he "touched LO", what do you mean?

Autumnalvibesofmellowness · 29/10/2023 09:44

Do you have anywhere safe you can go?

I would not let her out of my sight at the moment.

You need to involve social services and tell them about the abuse. But they will expect you to have taken the necessary steps to leave so make that a priority.

Purplecatshopaholic · 29/10/2023 09:49

Woah, back up there - he touched her? Where? In what way? If you are saying it was in an inappropriate manner, you need to get the hell out Right Now - don’t wait worrying about pumpkin picking ffs.

BlueEyedPeanut · 29/10/2023 09:56

For fuck’s sake. "My partner touches my child, but my issue is his mother is mean about me."

No, your issue is your failure to protect your child.

memyselfi · 29/10/2023 10:02

You need to report ' the touching' to the police .

Tatumm · 29/10/2023 10:04

He’s sexually abusing her? Please contact Womens Aid today for support leaving today, don’t let your child out of your sight, certainly don’t let them take her pumpkin picking.

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 10:07

Purplecatshopaholic · 29/10/2023 09:49

Woah, back up there - he touched her? Where? In what way? If you are saying it was in an inappropriate manner, you need to get the hell out Right Now - don’t wait worrying about pumpkin picking ffs.

I'm trying my very very best to leave. I can't make it go quicker than I already am. Then im left with a battle between me and him regarding lo, he will fight to have lo weekends. I have no proof on my side either, its my word against his and his entire narcasric family who've made it their mission to make me look crazy.

Lo is always with me as I have always been the main caregiver. Hes made weird comments to me that irked me to the core. He did those things Infront of me.. yup. Once I ended it and put lo to bed i went in on him but was met with him highering his volume to block me out, calling me insane, that I see things, that I need help, gaslighting me, mocking my voice etc.

I was about to make a comment with everything in it but it actually irks me so hard idk

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Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 10:10

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 10:07

I'm trying my very very best to leave. I can't make it go quicker than I already am. Then im left with a battle between me and him regarding lo, he will fight to have lo weekends. I have no proof on my side either, its my word against his and his entire narcasric family who've made it their mission to make me look crazy.

Lo is always with me as I have always been the main caregiver. Hes made weird comments to me that irked me to the core. He did those things Infront of me.. yup. Once I ended it and put lo to bed i went in on him but was met with him highering his volume to block me out, calling me insane, that I see things, that I need help, gaslighting me, mocking my voice etc.

I was about to make a comment with everything in it but it actually irks me so hard idk

Again have you actually seen him secually abuse your daughter?

If you have no proof. And this includes police reports and social services then regardless of when you do leave he is goijgnto have access alone. Without you of his child.

If you also move the child a significant distance away without his permission he can also file a PSO to have her returned.

Have you taken legal advice? I would call Women's aid today as I think your plan has serious flaws and could backfire.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 10:11

He's never had the chance to truly do it because I've ALWAYS been with her and when I started to see if and things he did infront of me, I never let her sleep in our bed next to him anymore etc. Always made sure she has clothes on etc. He's never done a thing like that since and ik its because shes older and she has the ability to remeber. That doesn't mean I feel any different, but I definitely feel like I'm in a loosing battle.

I wanted to do a lie detector test to prove everything, but its so bloody expensive and idk if legally it can be used as proof or not

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ErinAndTonic · 29/10/2023 10:12

BlueEyedPeanut · 29/10/2023 09:56

For fuck’s sake. "My partner touches my child, but my issue is his mother is mean about me."

No, your issue is your failure to protect your child.

This! Sounds like your child is getting sexually abused by their father and your main concern here is fucking pumpkin picking?!

What planet are you on! You said it was done in front of you too, so get out, run, do not walk, get to a women's shelter and only take the bare minimum.

Her wellbeing has to be your priority and you need to step up!

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 10:14

I am worried if I tried to keep lo away from him, that him and his family would go in on me for a custody battle and despite no one haveing proof.. its me against many voices saying the same untrue story.

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Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 10:14

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 10:11

He's never had the chance to truly do it because I've ALWAYS been with her and when I started to see if and things he did infront of me, I never let her sleep in our bed next to him anymore etc. Always made sure she has clothes on etc. He's never done a thing like that since and ik its because shes older and she has the ability to remeber. That doesn't mean I feel any different, but I definitely feel like I'm in a loosing battle.

I wanted to do a lie detector test to prove everything, but its so bloody expensive and idk if legally it can be used as proof or not

Lie detector tests are bullshit fake science and mean nothing.

How are you planning to dafeguard your
Child?

Because right now. You're not.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 10:17

This annoys me because to say she isn't my priority is so far from the truth. He was mentally abusing me, I was questioning my sanity and my ability to recall anything. I never left her side. leaving through housing is a slow process and I'm trying my best, I've been buying things to hide away where he won't look ready for the move. Bed sheets, cutlery and basicly all the necessities. Idk what else to do other than keep praying I will get a phone call telling me I won the housing bid

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 10:20

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 10:14

Lie detector tests are bullshit fake science and mean nothing.

How are you planning to dafeguard your
Child?

Because right now. You're not.

I've already been in contact with social services etc. I've shown I'm trying my up most best to leave and protect my child that they don't see the need to Intervene, but also if they do he has to know im planning to move which leave me and my child in a vunrevle situation regarding him trying to take her away etc. Like idk what else to do

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