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To say yes or no to mil takeing lo out pumpkin picking?

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 09:18

I'm in an abusive relationship, me and my partner moved in to the house he bought 1 day before induction. His behaviour changed the day we moved in.

i was a 2min walk from mils House and within a 4min drive was his entire family (its a big family). I felt very isolated because mil tried to be very kind to me but then always did something the next day, tell me she should get a say in the child because shes the nana. Pressuring me in to sleepovers with lo, then tell her family I'm not letting her be a nana so the they would all bring it up and say I'm being controlling of my child. Ringing 15x a day, none stop turning up. Asking her not to kiss my child's lips and does it again and again infront of me. Telling me I'm controlling my child and not letting partner look after lo, yet he REFUSED to do ANY thing for lo qhen I would beg and cry for him to just give me some damn eye contact and stop turning the telly up over my voice. She did a lot more but yh.

Her and her family have always acted like they've never done a thing wrong to me, despite them talking behind my back and many other things. Mil spreads lies to everyone about me and now when I see even the parts of the family I've had no conflict with, feel uncomfortable vibes. But if i say anything about it or show any dislike towards towards anyone, I'm a horrible person and after everything all the kind things she's done for me, how dare I spread lies about her.

my view of mil started warped because I was quite impressionable. I was young, I had an abusive mother growing up and so I was enabling their behaviour towards me without relising because I didn't know any different.

Partner would go to mils and lie about my reactions, he would bully me, laugh at me, mock me, refuse eye contact, sarcasm, stone wall me, gaslight me, tell me the things he did didn't happen and that I'm crazy. I don't wanna make it too long but he's a shit person, lacks empathy. He was also a very uninvolved dad, I did everything. But, mil believed him his every word. I tried reaching out to clear my name and tell the truth but no one qould hear me. she'd start spreading rumours about me being a good for nothing lazy mum, I spend his money and just sit at home doing nothing (I didn't see any of his money despite him earing a tone and spending every day doing things for him and the house). she'd gaslight me and turn all the things he'd do on to me, that because I'm lazy and abusive to HIM he isn't nice to me back. That I'm crazy and need help because all I do is lie, that I lie about everything and his son wouldn't lie and I'm a horrible person for hateing her for no reason. In text messages she'd even lie about the things she'd done to me, to create this image of me literally being so crazy and a pathological liar. She wanted me to belive that I'l don't remeber anything right too and feel like I'm the person she's painting me out to be. Everyone in the area thinks I'm abusive to him, "partner" took the computer away from me the other day because I didn't listen to him. He hid it at his mils House and they were all cheering him on for standing up for himself against me, saying that he is afraid of me and I control the house and him.

They are literally cheering his abuse towards me on.. I feel so alone :/

I got told I had ptsd from a doctor because of the abuse and that I never lied . Again she called me a liar and said its the abuse from my childhood that's makeing me crazy. Saying again that I'm the abuser, kept makeing up and so on. I've been suffering a lot mentally and they all used the house looking like a mess as a way way bully me and call me a lazy, bad mum and abusing partners kindness. It's the main comeback they use against me.
I think i just really wanted to be belived because no one around me did and I thought I had proof to shut their lies down, I was so wrong.
I didn't do anything wrong other than try to set boundaries regarding my child and she despised me for it.

Anyway, she has lo every Sunday. 5 weeks ago after a row with her when I told her about the ptsd. I said enough is enough. You cant all treat me like this then expect to happily come to my door and get my chikd? Where I am disliked and unwelcome, so is my child. If I can't even trust you not to tell a single lie, how can I trust u with my child?
She kept asking me over and over why I'm so nasty and would be so selfish on lo and her, when I'd answer she'd ask me again as if she was searching for the truth vecause apparantly I kept lying to her about the things she was doing to me. She kept telling me that she's never done a thing wrong to me and I attacked her first, that she's done so many kind things for me and all she's even been is good to me and now im showing my true colors by useing my child against her. That I'm cruel etc

I stood by ground but let lo go last Sunday because I was feeling so guilty as lo was asking me to visit, I didn't care about mil but hurting my child was never part of the plan.

It's Sunday today and she's asked again. Shes been acting like the kind woman again as if NOTHING happened.. messaging me normally, talking to me normally she got lo at the door the other week.
She was to take lo on a big drive away for pumpkin picking. I've had car safety issues with her and it's just the person she is, I don't like her. After everything she has done to me? Deep down I do trust her with lo and despite everything she is a good nana, I don't want fued to get in the way of haveing an involved nana but my god .. she is HORRIBLE to me. Its like, if I'm unwelcome and so disliked by a group of people why should I hand my chikd over to them?
What do I do? Just give in and let her have lo every Sunday. I havnt been able to take lo pumpkin picking this year either so I feel envy and jealousy that someone who has treated me so badly gets to do the very thing I wanted to do with lo, and that I am unwelcome and can't even go with them?

Sorry this was long, I dont know how to make it simpler as so much has happened. Im also not the best at writing and explaining so I do apologise

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 12:44

BlueEyedPeanut · 29/10/2023 12:35

Who is protecting her when you and your partner are physically attacking each other? Who is protecting her when you are throwing playstations around? Who is protecting her from her parents' toxic relationship?

What makes you think we are physically attacking each other? I never said that nor did I imply it.

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rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 12:44

Stop with the I-me-i-my me me me.
Just go leave end of.
police 999
womens aid 08082000247
SS in your area have a 24/7 hotline
Walk to the police if you have to go to local housing.
But all im hearing is me me me.
You could go today right now but your still there.
You got a phone use it.

PictureOfFlorianTray · 29/10/2023 12:45

Just pack a small bag of essentials then walk away with your child.
Go to a police station or call them from where you are.

Let the police and SS and Womens Aid deal with it all.

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BlueEyedPeanut · 29/10/2023 12:47

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 12:44

What makes you think we are physically attacking each other? I never said that nor did I imply it.

You talked about it in your other threads. You said you threw things at him in one and in another you hit him. Usually in retaliation for him getting in your face or annoying you (the time you threw his games console on the floor). Remember?

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 12:48

Sp has he actually done a actual act against her?

MinnieL · 29/10/2023 12:52

Look OP just take a deep breath and gather your thoughts before you post because you sound rather frantic and all over the place.

What has happened? You don’t need to explain it in explicit detail but has this man touched your child in a physical or sexual manner? Have you seen this happen with your own eyes? If so, what did you do about it (if anything?) your daughter needs to be protected asap and away from man if you’re saying that he has indeed abused her

TheShellBeach · 29/10/2023 13:01

Take your child out for a walk which ends at the police station.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 13:17

BlueEyedPeanut · 29/10/2023 12:47

You talked about it in your other threads. You said you threw things at him in one and in another you hit him. Usually in retaliation for him getting in your face or annoying you (the time you threw his games console on the floor). Remember?

but why assume my child was there. And it's not a physically abusive relationship, it's mentally and emotionally. Yes I owned up to the time i did retaliate but your imagining an enviroment where there's tons of screaming and shouting and my child's crying in the background etc. It's not like that, he is very calm in his demeanour when doing the things he does. Very passive aggressive and manipulative which I'm positive I added there.

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Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 13:20

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 13:17

but why assume my child was there. And it's not a physically abusive relationship, it's mentally and emotionally. Yes I owned up to the time i did retaliate but your imagining an enviroment where there's tons of screaming and shouting and my child's crying in the background etc. It's not like that, he is very calm in his demeanour when doing the things he does. Very passive aggressive and manipulative which I'm positive I added there.

Don you hand on heart genuinely believe your child is happy and healthy?

Growing up apparently being SA but you won't actually go into that....
And in a massively abusive home.

If you don't wise up and stop being so dense they are going toneat you alive.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 13:33

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 13:20

Don you hand on heart genuinely believe your child is happy and healthy?

Growing up apparently being SA but you won't actually go into that....
And in a massively abusive home.

If you don't wise up and stop being so dense they are going toneat you alive.

Yes because he starts qork at 7am, gets back 5.30pm and spend 2 hours in the bathroom and gets straight on to his game. He isn't In her routine, any of it. She's is happy because she's either with me or at nursery with her friends haveing fun. Everything that he did.. I know! She was super young and wouldn't of had no clue in the moment, u are assuming she is living in an extremely toxic, abusive enviroment where her parents are yelling and attacking each other. That those incidents were extremely traumatising for her. Yes fuking disgusting and hes a horrible person. But i have protected her and shielded her and we will be leaving soon. But from her perspective things seem normal and calm because i try to present it that way.
As someone who grew up in an abusive hoursgold, I am AWARE of how viewing things will impact her!!!! I know!!!

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Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 13:36

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 13:33

Yes because he starts qork at 7am, gets back 5.30pm and spend 2 hours in the bathroom and gets straight on to his game. He isn't In her routine, any of it. She's is happy because she's either with me or at nursery with her friends haveing fun. Everything that he did.. I know! She was super young and wouldn't of had no clue in the moment, u are assuming she is living in an extremely toxic, abusive enviroment where her parents are yelling and attacking each other. That those incidents were extremely traumatising for her. Yes fuking disgusting and hes a horrible person. But i have protected her and shielded her and we will be leaving soon. But from her perspective things seem normal and calm because i try to present it that way.
As someone who grew up in an abusive hoursgold, I am AWARE of how viewing things will impact her!!!! I know!!!

And you understand that you have zero argument to stop as much contact as he wants?

Why shouldn't this man have 50/50? Or residency?

HerMammy · 29/10/2023 13:40

@Sophie1029734
I can't make it go quicker than I already am
Yes you can, pack a small bag and go to the nearest police station today, report him and they will help you in to a refuge.

rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 13:47

If hes at work from 7am til 5pm you have all day to leave.
All the advice on here is just not going in.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 13:54

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 29/10/2023 13:36

And you understand that you have zero argument to stop as much contact as he wants?

Why shouldn't this man have 50/50? Or residency?

There is no proof for ANYTHING that happened, even if I spoke up what proof is there? None!!! so he'd probabaly end up with 50.50 custody anyway. I dunno why ur acting as if I don't want to fight it, when I have nothing on my side to literally fight with.
Kids end up being forced to visit abusive parents all the time, even WITH proof because so many times it can be a fuked up, unfair system for so many.

I've done my best to shield her from it in the ways I felt I could and knew how to, at a time where I was being mentally fuked up by him u seem to think im adding on to creating a bad enviroment for her when all I've done is try and do the opposite even when I felt beaten down to fuk.

Idk how it'll go when I leave and if he truly will fight for custody, I will have to get people who do custody battles to help me out if he does but most likely it qould be 50.50 but idk what else to tell u? I don't want any of this for her and I wish none of this happened and I had a good partner who was a good dad and person.

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 13:58

rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 13:47

If hes at work from 7am til 5pm you have all day to leave.
All the advice on here is just not going in.

It's because I could be leaving any day at this point, it could be tommorow, the day after. I'm on the highest priority. If I left now when it's so close he would claim the around 2k worth of items I have been slowly building up ready to rebuild and start up a home for her. It's all hiding in a place he doesn't go.
I was close to going to a womans housing shelter but I didn't because of how quick they said it will happen.

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TheShellBeach · 29/10/2023 14:02

How quickly who said what would happen?

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 14:09

rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 13:47

If hes at work from 7am til 5pm you have all day to leave.
All the advice on here is just not going in.

I'd rather wait it out, esepcially when he isn't even around her or me much during the days anymore as I try my best to avoid him and his work schedule helps with that.

I'd rather stick it out for a couple more days to ensure on the first day of moveing I can instantly make it in to a home for her, rather than jumping to a shelter and then jumping to a house which is is more confusing for her. Also bareing in mind on the day I could go to a shelter I could get the home on the same day and in turn lost all the things I had to make it a home for her and be unable to rebuild.
I got all the items because I knew I'd be moveing and instantly prepared for it.

Yes u may think im not doing everything in my path at this moment to leave but I am. Going to a shelter at this time wouldn't help me, it could set us back by miles all the for the name of a day or two.

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 14:12

TheShellBeach · 29/10/2023 14:02

How quickly who said what would happen?

To receive a home from the council, im on the highest priority and it could happen any day. That's why i can't do anything else but just pray that this day is the one I get the call because it could be.

That's why womans shelter, heading to the police etc at this stage isn't worth it as it will add flames to the fire when I'm trying my best to avoid it and keep the fire calm to keep my plan in motion.

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rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 14:14

Going to the police is the best thing to do he touched your child it needs reporting .
How old is your child?

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 14:16

Yes I know i need to get in Contact for support to help with my plan of attack if he does file for full custody, and I know I need to sit down and lool Iver my options and such. but at this moment I need to leave and my plan to leave to carry it out first. Its not that I'm not reading ur comments and takeing them in, it's that my plan is in action and I just need to leave before I make the next move. And j have took them In which is why i will ring and Consult someone regarding all of this.

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Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 14:18

rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 14:14

Going to the police is the best thing to do he touched your child it needs reporting .
How old is your child?

She is soon 4. Dw, I will. I will get in Contact with people and lool at my options but with the move being so close, I have to let it carry out first before I add fuel to the fire.

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rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 14:18

Going in to a refuge wont affect your banding in housing.
I know this because i was in a refuge.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 14:23

rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 14:18

Going in to a refuge wont affect your banding in housing.
I know this because i was in a refuge.

Yes I know, but I could get house any day. Could be timmorow, Tuesday. If I leave ilk loose everything ive been secretly building up ready for the move. A couple days wait isn't worth it right now, especially when with his work schedule it allows me to dodge him and keep him at a distance.

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rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 14:30

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 14:23

Yes I know, but I could get house any day. Could be timmorow, Tuesday. If I leave ilk loose everything ive been secretly building up ready for the move. A couple days wait isn't worth it right now, especially when with his work schedule it allows me to dodge him and keep him at a distance.

Yes i understand you could get housed any day but he could also touch his child again any day is it really worth waiting.
Im only saying as i was abused as a child and trust me it stays with you all your life.

Sophie1029734 · 29/10/2023 14:35

rockinginarockingchair · 29/10/2023 14:30

Yes i understand you could get housed any day but he could also touch his child again any day is it really worth waiting.
Im only saying as i was abused as a child and trust me it stays with you all your life.

Again, ur assuming his going around touching her left and centre. He hasn't done so for 2years as I'm assuming because she has memory and I'm always with her, prptrcting her and being her barrier!!! So no the wait isn't as bad as ur picturing in ur head and a couple more days keeping him at distance is worth the ability to have her move in to somewhere I can instantly bring to life and make it a true home for her.

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