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WWYD? Grandparents and Sugar

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Sleepysaurus2 · 27/07/2023 20:04

My in-laws sometimes look after my 3 year old DD. It isn’t very frequent and it’s usually when they want to look after her, not from a childcare standpoint. I suppose on average it would be 2 or 3 times a month.

Every time DD goes to their house, she is only fed sugar. I honestly wouldn’t mind the odd treat or two but the whole day is just sugar. They have a cupboard full of ‘toddler’ snacks e.g things like mini gingerbread men, crispy tiddlers, those yo yo things and other similar items. Given the frequency that she goes to their house, I do find it unnecessary for them to have a whole cupboard full of these snacks. DD just asks for constant snacks when she’s there. She is a pretty good eater for a toddler but understandably she finds these items a big temptation when she is there. My DH has previously asked them to only offer her one of these items when she is there and to otherwise offer fruit or similar. They agreed to this but I am not confident they’re following this. There always seems to be a new snack in the cupboard. I find it unnecessary and a bit strange that they keep buying these expensive and nutritionally poor items.

DD was with my MIL today. When I picked her up MIL said she’d eaten all her lunch. I asked what she had and she told me DD had a jam sandwich on white bread (she’ll happily have cheese, ham or peanut butter), a yoghurt ‘and some other bits’. Then when we went to get her things I saw an open pack of French fancies and DD later told me she’d had a chocolate cake (presumably one of the French fancies). She does have bits of fruit when she’s there but every single thing she has is sweet. MIL was very happy to tell me that DD had really enjoyed a yoghurt mixed with jam…DD simply doesn’t need all of this. She isn’t a fussy eater! I used to send her there with a lunchbox similar to one she has at nursery but MIL has told me she prefers to make her lunch herself. This doesn’t make any sense!

It's stressing me out a bit and making me not want to send her there. I let her go there as it’s nice for our in-laws to be included and DD does have a nice time playing there. However, when she goes to my parents she’ll have homemade vegetable soup, veg lasagne or whatever with the odd biscuit which I’m fine with. I really don’t mind the odd treat but this feels a bit extreme.

I'm not sure if I (or maybe DH) should speak with them about it or whether I should accept that the occasional day there with lots of sugar isn’t the end of the world or worth potentially making things a bit awkward. I suppose I’m worried about the future incase she does end up going more frequently and it’s become habit to just eat these snacks. We also have DS 6 months and I don’t want this to be his experience there in the future either. WWYD?

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LizzieSiddal · 27/07/2023 21:14

I’d be so angry if this as my Dd. I wouldn’t want her being filled with all that rubbish!

Get your H to tell MIL that the snack cupboard for Dd has to go and make up something about a visit to the Dr/dentist who’ve commented on how sugar is very bad for her or say she’s getting bad stomach aches every evening when she’s been with her.

Teebles007 · 27/07/2023 21:15

My MIL used to feed dc's sugar sandwiches, pancakes, strawberries dunked in sugar , jammy buns etc. I dreaded them eating there but didn't want to cause upset. Moving on many years, they are all slim adults with no fillings and look back with affection at nanny's sugar addiction.
Don't ruin your relationship over the occasional day of sugar. On reflection probably better than KFC and McDonalds.

Phineyj · 27/07/2023 21:15

I'm no psychologist but this is perhaps about the treats grandma would have to liked to have had herself when she was little? As such she probably doesn't even know why she does it herself.

I think most sensible grandparents don't go directly against what parents have asked to this extent.

The PP who said she bakes a cake and gives a slice - that's nice - treating them like a special guest. Filing them with Yo-Yos and Mr Kipling - not so much.

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Phineyj · 27/07/2023 21:17

Filling!

Filing with cake. Now that WOULD be weird.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 27/07/2023 21:20

It's a handful of meals a month.
I swear my pil only ever fed the grandkids jaffa cakes and quavers! In fact all their grandkids(12 of them ranging in age now from 15 to 41) have the same very fond memories.

Akushla123 · 27/07/2023 21:20

Wow. I really think you are going to struggle when your child starts school and you no longer are able to control everything they consume. I think it’s desperately sad how grandparents are villainized on here. In many cases they are repeating what their own grandparents would have done with them.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 27/07/2023 21:23

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 27/07/2023 21:12

@IMustDoMoreExercise it's 2 or 3 days a month, less than 10 percent of the month, it one meal on that less than 10% of days, and it's not just sugar, yes some of the items listed are high sugar but no one is sitting the kid down with a bag of granulated and telling her to help herself.

She's having a jam sandwich, a very small cake, a yoghurt and some fruit. Alongside the breakfast her parents will have fed her, presumably impeccably healthy and the dinner her parents gave her, which will of course be varied, nutrient rich and sugar free.

What will you do when DD is invited to a birthday party every weekend? Because I guarantee that the food given by MIL is the tip of the iceberg compared to a standard kids party with trays of white bread sandwiches, chocolate finger, jammy dodgers, cold chicken nuggets, cold pizza, chocolate mini rolls, slices of birthday cakes, sweet cones, jelly and ice cream...............

10% is a lot!

That is the problem, kids go to parties and have to eat crap (hopefully that will change eventually but I am not holding my breath). They should not be eating crap at their grandparents as well.

shakeitoffsis · 27/07/2023 21:23

Couple of times a month isn't an issue. Let them enjoy it n

IMustDoMoreExercise · 27/07/2023 21:25

continentallentil · 27/07/2023 21:08

Sure but this isn’t going to happen to the OP’s child because she had two sugar filled days a month for a couple of days a month before she starts school.

I’d be trying to reduce it too, but you are over the line into hysteria. In an overall balanced life this isn’t going to lead to obesity.

If a child get the taste for sugary food, they won't want to eat non-sugary food. That is the problem.

Gateappreciation · 27/07/2023 21:26

You say it isn’t often. Then don’t worry. Having sugar once every so often isn’t going to harm her.

The one family I know who had a sugar free diet had kids who went mad at any party they went to and ate every sugary thing in sight.

Agii · 27/07/2023 21:27

I would get annoyed. Can't she cook ?
I know that sweets is like a treat, but equally as nice would be to Make a lovely meal that kids like! Feeding crap every time isn't necessary.

My mom might steer towards treats, but right now my boys get stuffed with loads of cucumbers and tomatoes from the garden and sone fruits, home grown berries here and here, and they love it!

Suggest her that your daughter loves a good fruit salad with Greek yoghurt? Or home made pizza on tortilla perhaps ?

7Worfs · 27/07/2023 21:28

OP - sugar is the least of your problems. All the stuff they are over feeding her with is palm oil, emulsifiers, additives.

I’d firmly suggest nutritious lunch ideas and insist that if granny wants to treat the child, she should get off her lazy arse and bake something nice instead of buying cancer and diabetes in a shiny package.

Cassetta · 27/07/2023 21:29

I can’t stand this because I see it as a lack of care for the child. If you care for a child you don’t stuff it with crap morning noon and night for your own pleasure, or for an easy life. I am all for relaxing a bit when kids are with grandparents, but a grandparent who is incapable of feeding a kid anything savoury is irresponsible imo.

whatstheagendatoday · 27/07/2023 21:29

If its only 2-3 times a month, I'd talk to them, give an allowance like one sweet thing a day, but honestly op I wouldn't sweat it this much if the rest of the time her diet is healthy.

momtoboys · 27/07/2023 21:32

Garman · 27/07/2023 20:12

We had this with my mil, we asked her nicely many times to give one or two small treats alongside proper food (which she would have made for themselves but would just feed dc1 sugar constantly instead!). Eventually we put a rule in between dh and I that dc1 would never be there alone because of it, one of us had to be there. She would just ignore dh saying anything about it, so I had to step in and be in her eyes “the mean one” saying no to a crying dc1 that he couldn’t have any more treats there. She annoyed me so much that day making me out to be an asshole and with her crocodile tears that that was the last time dc1 went there for about 2 years. Dc2 & dc3 go probably three times a year always with dh and always allowed only one treat, compared to probably 2-3 visits a week when dc1 was under 6 months and she hadn’t yet started offering constant sugar. She made her bed and now she can lie in it.

You are quite proud of yourself for taking a stand and cutting off your child from their grandparents. I hope you don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.
What is wrong with your husband that he won't stand up to you and that he allows this estrangement over bits?

WaitingfortheTardis · 27/07/2023 21:35

Doesn't sound very often at all and it sounds like she'd normally have a healthy breakfast and dinner so I really don't think it's worth worrying too much about.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 27/07/2023 21:36

Isn't this what grandparents are for?

My Nan used to give me custard creams for breakfast 😂

You say nothing apart from thanks for having my dd.

whatstheagendatoday · 27/07/2023 21:37

Gosh that sounds harsh garman...

Op had a thought, could you invent some sugar intolerance maybe, she gets itchy or restless and can't sleep after sugary foods? Then present it as a health concern advised by the Dr, and ask if they could not give any treats with added sugar in it?

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 27/07/2023 21:41

Garman · 27/07/2023 20:12

We had this with my mil, we asked her nicely many times to give one or two small treats alongside proper food (which she would have made for themselves but would just feed dc1 sugar constantly instead!). Eventually we put a rule in between dh and I that dc1 would never be there alone because of it, one of us had to be there. She would just ignore dh saying anything about it, so I had to step in and be in her eyes “the mean one” saying no to a crying dc1 that he couldn’t have any more treats there. She annoyed me so much that day making me out to be an asshole and with her crocodile tears that that was the last time dc1 went there for about 2 years. Dc2 & dc3 go probably three times a year always with dh and always allowed only one treat, compared to probably 2-3 visits a week when dc1 was under 6 months and she hadn’t yet started offering constant sugar. She made her bed and now she can lie in it.

Your poor kids.

Hope you're proud of yourself for sabotaging a relationship with their grandparents.

So unkind and OTT.

Emmamoo89 · 27/07/2023 21:43

IMustDoMoreExercise · 27/07/2023 20:57

Really? Don't you care about your kids at all?

My son gets treats every day. It's how I was brought up and I'm fine and healthy 🤷‍♀️

Thistooshallpsss · 27/07/2023 21:45

People talk about the village talk about not getting any help or support but the village has to behave in exactly the way that the parents want or they are threatened with excommunication. It’s a sad old world.

BungleandGeorge · 27/07/2023 21:48

You do realise that fruit is high in sugar? Ham contains nitrites that are carcinogenic.
honestly a lunch and a couple of snacks twice a month I think you should just let it go. At least they’re buying the toddler snacks that are lower in sugar and salt.

bellac11 · 27/07/2023 21:52

IMustDoMoreExercise · 27/07/2023 21:01

I bet that they didn't have that tomato sugar when they were that young.

Very few people had any treats at all when the grandparents were growing up because I am the age of the grandparents so I know.

How old are the grandparents?

MigGirl · 27/07/2023 21:53

IMustDoMoreExercise · 27/07/2023 20:59

Hysteria?

Do you even read the news about obesity, diabetes high blood pressure?

It's not hysteria. It's fact.

All of these things and many others are caused by sugar.

I think you've been reading to much news.

Yes overeating and excess sugar causes obesity. But it's all about moderation, even to much of certain healthy foods can cause issues. If you worry about everything you wouldn't eat anything at all.

As long as OP's child has a good regular diet, then the odd treat day isn't going to be a problem. My kids both teenagers are now fairly good at self regulating and I've never overly restricted anything, although they only had accessto what was in the house. The younger one would often rather have fruit then anything else. Making foods seem forbidden from a young age can cause more issues.

I'd maybe go back to sending a packed lunch or point out that my toddler is old enough to eat regular food just like they do. Maybe they are seeing the snacks while out shopping in the toddler/children's sections and actually think they are good for them. Marketing is a strong tool and I could never understand my peer groups obsession with feeding toddler yogurts when normal ones are actually better.

Lilacshade · 27/07/2023 21:53

You have a 3 year old. Sometime in the future you will feel embarrassed about your overreaction. It means nothing in the great scheme of things.

I did something similar myself. My lovely MIL gave DS1 something I didn't approve of when he was tiny.
She's long dead now and DC is a healthy slim adult with fond memories of his grandmother.

Imagine if you asked your parents why you seldom saw your grandparents and they told you they wouldn't let you see them because they gave you sweets.