NHS now say you can cosleep safely.

[Emmamoo89]

The never sleep with your baby has now been removed and updated to be safe if you share your bed with your baby.

Isn't that awesome 👏 😊

Ie they have a dreadful understanding of safety all round!

The Lullaby Trust gives information on the safest way to co sleep and minimum ages.

This has turned out ridiculous people won't know where to put their babies 🙄 there's pros and cons in everything what works for some doesn't for others.

Ffs I don't need this on my thread. Get a grip honestly 🙄

I co slept with all 4 of mine but I lied to the HV as they were extremely judgemental about it

I'm sorry you went through that. Just what ive read.

Just goes to show that the so called expert recommendations change. My babies were in their own rooms from day one and I wouldn't do otherwise. These things are not the law, you do what you think is best.

Exactly. Apparently I shouldn't have a child. Some people are just nasty

@Boomboom22 that's a bit harsh

I co-slept with my babies for the first 3 months or so and often kept them in bed with me after very late night/early morning feeds in the often folorn hope that we could get a few more hours sleep but this was 22 and 19 years ago.

I'd be interested to see any statistics showing how many babies have not died due to the more recent "don't co-sleep" advice.

Advice is still it's not safe but if you insist on doing it make it as safe as possible

And so what I like a bit a kink doesn't mean I don't deserve my son. I love him so fucking much and would do anything for him.

Glad about this advice.

Better to let people to do it safely tha demonise them.

Its the most natural thing in the world to sleep with your baby.

@Emmamoo89 just ignore them! Co sleeping is fine we know that...wow this is like a breast vs formula thread 😂

My son is safe.

Does the “angry that OP has sex with her husband” poster understand how babies are made, or…?

I'm going to. Yep it is.. haha I know right 🤣🤣 there's always going to be one dick 🤷‍♀️

It is the most natural things to do

He's not even my husband. Just partner. Obviously doesn't 🤣

I think it's quite fair to point out from your posting history you engage in very unsafe sexual behaviour. You said it yesterday. I do feel that is relevant to your general perceptions of what is safe.

@Emmamoo89

I will thank you! (Re pump not syringe). And also thank you for kind words! I’m glad you’re happy about the new advice etc. that’s great news. The issue on mumsnet is that people can be great. But also very divisive. For every almost smothered story there has to be the same amount of fell asleep sat up and almost dropped baby / smothered by blankets in lap as someone has said was their experience here. It’s ok that we are all different. We’re only human so it’s just different strokes etc xx

Omfg. Actually said it today but what does it matter. Just because I like kink doesn't mean I don't keep my son safe. Jesus fucking christ.

Creates abandonment? What do you mean?

There are risks associated with co-sleeping and I'm so sorry for any mother who accidentally smothers their baby while co-sleeping - I can't imagine the horror of that:-(.

But there are also risks of suffocating your baby if you fall asleep holding them in a chair or on a sofa and the risks then are much much higher than when co-sleeping.

It has always seemed wrong to me that there was such strong advise against co-sleeping without at least the caveat that it is the safest thing to do if you can't get your baby to sleep any other way.

I never intended to co sleep with my eldest but as he never slept for longer than half an hour ever unless he was being held I didn't actually have any choice!! Human adults do need sleep!

I'm glad for new parents that the advice is now more realistic.