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Smoking cannabis

160 replies

tryinghardest · 19/09/2021 14:45

What's people's honest opinions/views on smoking weed whilst being a parent? When the children are in bed in the evening and you know they won't wake until the early hours... Just interested to see what other people say about it.

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Plumtree391 · 19/09/2021 19:15

@Ohsugarhoneyicetea

I think its amazing, and I never tried it till my late 40s. I have spondylitis (degradation of the cartilage in my cervical spine) and its given me a pain free life again. I was using NSAIDs but they gave me a hernia, and opiates are a nightmare as I'm already chronically constipated (sorry tmi). A smoke at night has taken all that away, its relaxed all my muscles so I'm not in pain all day and decrease all my inflammation. I dont know people who sell it, so I grew my own in the greenhouse with the tomato's, the seeds are legal to buy. Bloody ridiculous its illegal, but I dont think it shouldnt be available to under 25s, your brain needs to be fully developed or it can cause issues. For older people its just amazing. When I was visiting California, all the people in the pot shop I went into were over 70!
Oh well, I'm all right then, being over 70 :-).

I don't have any pain (at the moment), but would like to use it anyway. I did smoke it quite a lot for a short while in my twenties, since then just occasionally.

Mynameismargot · 19/09/2021 19:21

@hufffflufff

As an ex pot user I think people minimise the dangers of cannabis. Especially these days with the very potent forms available. Dangerous drug! And not a great example to set for young children, whether that's the impact of the lazy behaviour after having smoked it, or them finding out about it at some point in their childhood.
Dh is an ex user too. I would ask him to stop and he always refused until one time he said he would try for 6 months and if he didn't see the postives like I told him he would he would start again and I had to stop bothering him about it. That was about 10 years ago now and he has never used it since, now he says that he just didn't want to admit to himself how it was affecting him in a negative way. His mental health is 10 times better since he stopped using. Mental health issues are rife in his old druggie mates they are paranoid, depressed and anxious.

I think it is a real shame that so many users downplay the effects of it but ex users will tell you it's shit.

JudyGemstone · 19/09/2021 19:36

There are no warehouses or child slaves involved. I know this.

Do you think your tech /clothes/food/drink/cosmetics are all produced and traded ethically?

Strokethefurrywall · 19/09/2021 19:53

@JudyGemstone agree with you.

I live in the Caribbean so we’re pretty self assured as to where all our weed comes from (back gardens).

toocold54 · 19/09/2021 20:03

This is a parenting board, and yet there are so many posters supporting child slavery

I think this is quite a naive statement.
Lots of people grow it themselves for their own personal use or get it from friends with no child slavery involved. I know several people who grow it and none are child traffickers.
There are also many, many products and services that people use that could also be a part of slavery - food, drink, clothes, services like car washes and nail bars etc. The posters claiming that all cannabis is linked to child are probably using these products too but I would never say these people who use them are supporting child slavery.

Strokethefurrywall · 19/09/2021 22:10

This is a parenting board, and yet there are so many posters supporting child slavery

As are all posters turning their responses from iPhones or wearing primark clothes.

Orangejuicemarathoner · 19/09/2021 22:17

@JudyGemstone

There are no warehouses or child slaves involved. I know this.

Do you think your tech /clothes/food/drink/cosmetics are all produced and traded ethically?

And yes you are contributing directly to child slavery, because you are using up the supply of (supposedly) slave free cannabis ( although it is actually unlike to be - where did your supplier get her original plants) and pushing other consumers into the slave produced market

So stop denying it to yourself.

And in what way does it make it any better to say - yes my product is based on child abuse and torture in the UK, but that is ok because other products may have been based on child abuse and torture outside the UK

You are supporting child trafficking, child slavery, child abuse and child deaths. Stop deluding yourself that you are not

Orangejuicemarathoner · 19/09/2021 22:18

@toocold54

This is a parenting board, and yet there are so many posters supporting child slavery

I think this is quite a naive statement.
Lots of people grow it themselves for their own personal use or get it from friends with no child slavery involved. I know several people who grow it and none are child traffickers.
There are also many, many products and services that people use that could also be a part of slavery - food, drink, clothes, services like car washes and nail bars etc. The posters claiming that all cannabis is linked to child are probably using these products too but I would never say these people who use them are supporting child slavery.

you are deluded
Orangejuicemarathoner · 19/09/2021 22:20

People dont want to accept that they are responsible for child abuse, trafficking, slavery and torture

But they are

They do anything they can to convince themselves that they are not. Claim there particular cannabis is ethically produced, point out that other products may be produced by slaves too .......

None of this changes the facts. If you are buying UK cannabis, you are supporting child slavery- whatever pathetic excuses you keep repeating to yourself

IsThisAkissingBook · 19/09/2021 22:49

Taking on board the ethical argument. So can anyone advise on growing my own and where to get the seeds? I haven't looked after a plant since I killed the class spider plant in 95.

BiBabbles · 19/09/2021 23:26

All drugs have their pros and cons and responsibilities, and those adults who can keep it from impacting their kids as part of responsible drug use, I don't really have a strong opinion (putting aside the ethics in production and distribution).

However, having grown up with pot smoking parents and knowing others who have similar, I don't really trust the 'it's only after they're in bed' to last many years for those as a pp mentioned who become reliant on it to deal with their emotions anymore than I trust the same remark for any other drug used similarly. Pretty much everyone I know who had pot smoking parents had them either give up doing it in private or just slip up a lot more when they were older. I also think it would be more honest to say it's unlikely they'll need you til the early hours because most parents have stories of an older child who was ill at night needing us.

When my mother chose to stop hiding it, it was awful having to deal with how getting high dropped her inhibitions, how she talked differently while high, and the smell of it - ugh. When I read of parents wanting to smoke pot with their kids, I do feel some disgust as I remember how my mother introduced my brother to it and how she tried to do so with me.

It's legal in many places now and what's worse a angry alcoholic or a stoner whose going to eat everything in the fridge and fall asleep on the sofa

My mother could beat the shit out of me either way so with her it's do you want an angry person who slurs their words while beating you or an angry person who can't stop laughing while beating you. She could have a sweetness and light act on all of those too or while on nothing, but she was a really angry violent person. The drugs didn't make her that way though extended use fucked with her head, it just made it easier for her act that way and feel it was acceptable.

I know another person who when he drinks, he just get sleepy and hungry, similar when around others' smoking pot though it also puts him on edge a bit as it irritates his lungs a lot which actually puts him off food. He's one of the most relaxed people I know, either alcohol or pot just makes it easier to let that all out.

Alcohol doesn't make people angry, it just lowers inhibitions to expressing their emotions. Pot doesn't make everyone sleepy - it wires some people up. I hate when alcohol is put against pot in this way - putting the emotional differences on the drugs, making them responsible for it, erasing the very human element and responsibility in abuse that happens when someone is under the influence of drugs.

Plumtree391 · 20/09/2021 01:53

I can assure you alcohol can make people very angry and violent. There are people in prison now for causing serious bodily harm and don't remember what they did because they were so drunk.

Alcohol is fine in moderation, so is pot smoking.

SmallPrawnEnergy · 20/09/2021 02:42

you are contributing directly to child slavery, because you are using up the supply of (supposedly) slave free cannabis ( although it is actually unlike to be - where did your supplier get her original plants) and pushing other consumers into the slave produced market
What the ever loving fuck does this mean? How does someone buying weed from a person who grows a few plants in their own home for friends to buy from, push other people to other dealers?

Can you show me any evidence of increases child slavery in legal countries / states?

YukoandHiro · 20/09/2021 02:44

I don't think it's a good idea because you never know what might happen with children - illness etc. I'd say the same about getting drunk in sole charge of children though

Plumtree391 · 20/09/2021 03:03

If you are drunk in charge of children you might stumble and fall over. Smoking cannabis in moderation does not affect performance in that way.

Orangejuicemarathoner · 20/09/2021 05:52

@Plumtree391

If you are drunk in charge of children you might stumble and fall over. Smoking cannabis in moderation does not affect performance in that way.
drunk in charge of a child or stoned in charge of a child - both criminal offences, and both extremely dangerous
Orangejuicemarathoner · 20/09/2021 05:53

@SmallPrawnEnergy

you are contributing directly to child slavery, because you are using up the supply of (supposedly) slave free cannabis ( although it is actually unlike to be - where did your supplier get her original plants) and pushing other consumers into the slave produced market What the ever loving fuck does this mean? How does someone buying weed from a person who grows a few plants in their own home for friends to buy from, push other people to other dealers?

Can you show me any evidence of increases child slavery in legal countries / states?

I am not talking about other countries, I am talking about the situation here in the UK, which is the one I am personally involved in.

I know nothing about other countries.

I know of the thousands of trafficked child slaves in the cannabis industry in the UK

SoloISland · 20/09/2021 06:43

@TheQueef

Not always the best route though Solo I was addicted to prescription opiates, given for a chronic condition. Had to do a full rattle to get clean. I smoke (tobacco too) and it's the only thing keeping my pain under control enough for me to work.
What a convoluted excuse for breaking the law. Yes, pain relief the safe legal way is the right thing. The current hype re addiction re eg codeine is invalid when there is a chronic ie permanent condition. Clean? Why use druggie lingo lol

And the way you write you are totally addicted to this illegal drug anyway. Oh and tobacco too.

You swapped one addiction for two greater ones. Using druggie terms like clean …. crazy/

I was once offered this as a better choice than codeine which the se;lller told me is addictive. When I countered that with the reality of her junk? She backed down very fast.

You are per se an addict

At least I can get free pain relief that works as I am a pensioner.

and I would never support an illegal and damaging and highly addictive trade that is damaging and degrading so many young folk
I am stable on the same dose of codeine as I was ten , fifteen years ago. It works consistently and reliably and keeps me mobile and independent.

You need to see beyond the hype you have been fed as I thankfully did
They really sucked you in
You have exchanged one monitored drug for illegal junk
And yes it is always the best route for a good citizen who respects and obeys laws that protect vulnerable folk . Always

Signing off on this

And THAT is CLEAN.

OK signing off on this for good. Heard this hype too many times and it is just that. A commercial hype.

SoloISland · 20/09/2021 06:46

@Plumtree391

If you are drunk in charge of children you might stumble and fall over. Smoking cannabis in moderation does not affect performance in that way.
Is that a pig flying past? They sucked you in. Maybe look at the drug driving .laws
PerseverancePays · 20/09/2021 07:01

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Buying weed in the uk is supporting the worst, vile evil slade trade imaginable. Innocent children trafficked thousands of miles from home and worked to death, no proper nutrition, no medical care, no education.

No one buying cannabis in the uk can claim they care anything at all about any children or that they have any moral objection to any slave trade,

I don’t know anyone who buys it from a salve trader. There’s always a plentiful supply from friends of friends who grow a few plants. All this hysteria of not having a glass of wine in the evening or some form of cannabis to take the edge off is ridiculous. It doesn’t make you incapable of looking after a child who has woken in the night . No one is talking about being incapacitated by drink or cannabis on a daily basis. As for getting twitchy, smokers get twitchy when they have to wait beyond the time they thought they were going to get their next fag. It doesn’t make them evil, it’s a thing, tobacco is a thing. Most people who smoke cannabis mix the weed with tobacco as it gives a smoother smoke. Vapes are a good way to avoid the tobacco monster. And yes there are alcoholics and stoners who never really got motivated enough to get on with their lives, twas ever thus. A big problem with weed , if you were going to compare it to alcohol , is that you don’t know if you’re getting lager or vodka, so go slowly, which is easier to regulate with smoking than eating. When you are more familiar with what makes you comfortable, switch cautiously to edibles as it’s less destructive to your lungs and yours and the children’s clothes don't have that distinctive smell. Remember folks, that Britain is one of the worlds leading exporters of medical cannabis ( Sativex), and successive government’s inability to legalise it is total hypocrisy. And breathe, let go of your pearls.
TheQueef · 20/09/2021 07:05

Can't argue that I was and am an addict Solo and I'm honestly glad that you don't seem to be building up a tolerance to the opiates, long may that last.
You may have missed it but I do have a fully legal cannabis prescription, in England and I buy from a legal source.
Because of my pension I can afford to spend ~£400 on my prescription each time. Perfectly legally.
Is it fair that I can buy my way to pain relief without fear of prosecution?

tryinghardest · 20/09/2021 08:07

@T0rt0ise

Nope, but then I don't drink either. What if you need to drive your child to a and e?
Very true. But if I didn't drive then I wouldn't be able to do that either
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Plumtree391 · 20/09/2021 08:17

There are such things as taxis. Then you don't have to worry about parking at a hospital.

SoloIsland: Is that a pig flying past? They sucked you in. Maybe look at the drug driving .laws.
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I would not drink or smoke cannabis and drive, never have in my life; as I said above, there are taxis.

PerseverancePays, good, realistic and sensible post.

Plumtree391 · 20/09/2021 08:20

Anyone fancy some toast while we listen to Tangerine Dream and discuss Russell's teapot?

backoffice · 20/09/2021 08:32

Since the first lockdown a lot of my middle-class friends have started growing and using cannabis. It seems to be part of the “fuck it - life’s too short” attitude following the pandemic. It doesn’t bother me but I am surprised at how normalised it seems to have become in a short period.