October '04 babies

[Toots]

Wow. Can't believe it's me starting this thread. Eyelash, where are you? Get any sleep last night?

(Peeks head round door). Oooh, this looks lovely. I just have to nip off and do something first, not sure how long I will be though. Can I join you when I get back? xxx

tell you what girls, no pressure, I'll put some cling film on the sandwiches.

WOW - I have a oct baby. Am very tired due to labour and spending a night in hosipital with someones else's baby crying all night. DD2 seems content to sleep all the time. My breats are very sore, despite 2 years of beast feeding 1st time round and are chapped and bleeding all ready - great! But apart from that Grace is prefect and dd1 seems to be coping fine with being a abig sister - although she does want lots of munmy cuddles!

Cazzy, poor you with the breast thing. One of mine is coping really well, the other is pretty sore. We had meltdown last night. DP had loads of people over to toast baby then they went to the pub. Mel was totally hyped and screamed and cried for two hours, and predictably dp's 'half' took him two and a half hours to drink. I was going ballistic. But then she slept from 11 til 4 and things didn't seem so bad. I'm a husk today though. Turns out it's not so much my stitches that are giving me grief, but major piles. I am on the case now though. Looking forward to feeling a bit stronger in next couple of days.

Where are you Eyelash???? Come and tell us about Jacob.

Congrats cazzybabs - hope you do a birth story as cannot wait to hear the gory details. Grace is a lovely name and one on our list for a girl.

Well done Toots on starting the thread. Last night sounds caotic to say the least and hope you have recovered. It also must have been very tiring for you.

My boobs are sore too esp the nips in spite of also feeding ds1 and 2 for a total of 24 months. Midwife said I must not be latching on properly but I had this with the others and put it down to tender nips. Mine are no where near bleeding though - cazzybabs would you think of using breast shields for the latch on and then take them off once the baby has fed a bit? I had to do this with ds1 and 2 as they started bleeding and it was the only way I could get some relief. I have also been wacking on the lanolin this time as well and I am sure it is helping.

Sleepwise is changeable at the moment but that is to be expected I suppose. Last night he actually stayed awake for 3 hours before sleeping between 12 and 3.30am, and then 4.30am to 6am. I managed to snatch an hour earlier on this morning as well so all in all we are tired but coping. I think what helps is from already having children it is easier to say to yourself that this stage doesn't go on for ever. And it must be such a strange little world for them that the more we can see to their needs now the more contented they will be later. (Remind me of this in a weeks time!)

ds1 and ds2 are still pretty much delighted with their brother and they have had as many presents as Jacob.

Our best presents so far have been two cooked meals which friends prepared and delivered - such a luxury

I wonder if there will be a flurry of activity in the coming week.

Cazzybabs - just seen your story on the October thread - so 3 out of three great experiences so far . Well done.

I have tried using nipple shields but Grace won't feed with them! Midwife came round juts now and told me I wasn't feeding a good position - so hopefully it might make a bit of a difference! And I have invested in Lasonsin. Grace just sleeps all the time so we are waking her up to feed - so different to dd1 who just feed all the time. And she is a bit jandaudiced, but hopefully that will clear up. AND I have just eaten Brie - yummy.

Cazzy lots of snap! Mel is very sleepy and jaundiced (gorgeous fortnight in Greece tan) and I've been eating goat's cheese!

S**tty day today. One of my stitches is pinching on a raised vain and I am hobbling and have had a huge sob. DD1's new catchphrase is 'the baby loves me very lots in't she?'.

We have had some huge highs today. I've been in (careful) hysterics. Walking isn't too bad so we all trundled to the park and back via the chippy tonight. I'm a lansinoh girl too.

Look after yourselves girls. See you tomorrow I expect.

Can you lot save me some of the good cheese please, if this baby doesn't come soon i'm going to cave in and have some anyway!

sure thing geogteach. blue,veiny unpastuerised runny... got your name on darling.

I am a walking example of the miracle of modern medicine. had the emergency doc out at 9 - episiotomy infected - oh lord, the agony. already feeling so much better.

Toots - you ok lovely? My God, haven't meece enough to deal with? Puts my swollen-for-no-reason comedy eyelid into perspective.. xx

PS are there any prawns in the buffet here?

Toots - ouch. Are you feeling better today?

Toots hope you are feeling better today. I am a little tired, but dd2 still sleeping lots (mainly on me but managed 2 hrs in her crib yesterday). My milk has come in as well, but am not leaking as much milk as I did yesterday. Ohh keep reading the due in Oct. thread and although I am glad I don't have to give birth again (well not for a while) am a little sad its all over in once sense! I must must must strat revising for my OU exam in 2 weeks - why why why did I think it was a good idea?

Hello, you people with new babies, sounds like you're doing well. Anyone still due in October? I'm waiting for 'gap baby' (after 10 yr gap) due 24th. Baby still feels like far-off dream

just going to look for the due in Oct thread, obviously missed something...

Hi Samuella, you need the October Moose Massive thread, and welcome See you here soon.

Cazzybabs - really feel for you about the exam. Good on you, go for it. I'm supposed to have a work phone call in a couple of days, no big hassle, but every time I think about it, my tongue and brain go all sort of thick and jammy.

Know what you mean about wanting to do it again. Just want to bottle some of these moments with the gorgeous tiny beings, don't you?

Well I feel really OK today. I'm up a ladder no less, perfecting (or at least my level of perfect) DD2s black out curtain/blind arrangement. Am feeling up for it and have decided not to ask dp for anything I can do myself - just for this morning - so that I can fill his tanks up with a bit of good will. Saturday and Sunday were so awful, but I feel like I'm going to really start to enjoy things now.

I love the feeling of being cocooned in the house - found it claustrophobic last time. DD1 has gone off to nursery, and little one is asleep. She is an ace sleeper, and has given us a good long spell too nights running, although we've mistimed things somewhere both evenings, so settling her has been very stressful - think she's been overtired.

It's bliss not to have my mind whirling with questions and anxieties as with dd1. She wasn't easy and we made it so much worse for her by not understanding her needs.

Other thing to do today is to make sense of the breast pump - ameda lactaline - that arrived yesterday. I will need all six of my brain cells for that one!

Have good days all - hope you've got some nice biscuits in

Toots can I recomend Sainsbury's taste the difference triple choc cookies for the new mother. Choc cookies, with choc bits in and one side coated in choc! Have to say they're great but i've always found them too much except when breast feeding when they are absolutely essential!

Toots - wow you have been able to put the baby down. SO mcuh for my good intentions - I can't bear to let her cry. She is still yellow and not feeding brilliantly and is sick (which I keep getiing caught out by as dd1 was never sick!)

Snap again Cazzybabs! DD2 has been sick in a week about as many times as DD1 has in three years. Delightful.

I get a really pounding headache in the evenings. Anyone else?

Hello there - can finally join you here with the October babies . Just had a quick read through the thread and made me feel much better actually as little Sam sounds so similar to the others as he is also just starting with jaundice and is very sleepy.

I'm also having real problems with excrutiatingly sore nipples - especially on one side. I've ordered some Lanisoh cream today and paid extra to have it express delivered for tomorrow! Also just bought some nipple shields, although I'm sure there's some reason why you're not supposed really to use them? Eyelash I might try your tip of just putting the shields on for the initial latch and then taking baby off and on again once the pain has gone - might try that tonight.

Having only been feeding every 3 hours or so, tonight he's suddenly had a feeding frenzy so could be in for a long painful night - will take the shields to bed and might have to use them. My milk has been partly coming in today (it's day 3) so maybe that's why (I think it's partly anyway as I feel bigger and think he sounds like he's getting more liquid too, but haven't had that awful engorgement yet - no doubt will tomorrow morning)

My nipples have finally healed so I am feeding without shields again. Midwives don't likt you using them but I think its because you are supposed not to get sore nips if you get the latch right in the 1st place. Also there is a risk of the baby not feeding without them. Anyway I don't see how your nipples are supposed to heal without them.

So distracted hope your nipples get better soon!

Midwife just been - dd2 no longer jaundiced and had just done a big poo which was seeping through her baby gro as the midwife was talking!

I still have very sore nipples for the initial latch on but at least they are not cracked due I think to lots of lanolin cream. Also think it is absolute bs to say you shouldn't have sore nipples as everybody I know has suffered.

I managed to take ds2 and 3 to a local playgroup this morning. It is only 2 minutes from our house but feel we really achieved something today.

Well done Eyelash - I can't even contemplate going out yet, it's all a bit daunting! DD has been in nursery yesterday and today and dh took and fetched her, got her up, put her to bed etc., so haven't had to deal with 2 of them yet. She will be at home with us for the next 4 days though, which I think will be quite a shock.

Have to say that actually my nipples aren't quite as bad today, still sore but not excrutiating any more (wonder if milk coming in helps?). My Lanisoh cream arrived today too.

Worst problem at the mo' is ds feeding so much. I know it's normal to stimulate my milk supply but the annoying thing is that he has gone from feeding 20-30 minutes and then being happy to feeding for just 10 minutes, falling asleep and when I put him down wanting to feed again. This goes on for 1.5 - 2 hours of constant on/off feeding. Sometimes even then he only sleeps for another half hour and then it starts again. Spoke with MW and she said not to keep putting him back on after a few times as he should have drunk enough to keep him going for a while, so put up with the crying and do something else with him to make him wait for next feed and then maybe he will feed for longer instead of constantly snacking. Will have to try as had pretty bad night last night.

Cazzybabs glad your dd is no longer jaundiced. Thanks for pointing out why MWs don't like the shields too as I have been worrying about consequences of using them! Having said that I might just get away without now as things have improved - fingers crossed (got them all sterilised and ready anyway).

distracted sounds like your midwife's got a bit of gumption, which is good.

eyelash well done for playgroup trip. quite an achievement.

dd1 actually said 'come on daddy, take me to nursery' this morning, which made me so happy, on so many levels!

Hope everyone happy.

DD2 up three times last night, although was preceded by lovely calm evening with her asleep in her cot, so was able to have a couple of nice long phone chats.

Have to say though, hope tonight a little better.

MIL and FIL 24 hour stay really chilled and lovely. Never seen FIL pay so much attention to dd1, drawing pictures and singing. It was really special.

DP providing me with fantastic diet, spinach with everything, I've never been so regular.