October '04 babies

[Toots]

Wow. Can't believe it's me starting this thread. Eyelash, where are you? Get any sleep last night?

Eyelash thank you. That really helps. dd1 at nursery today. yesterday lurched from high to low all day. Kept putting dd2 down to sleep and promising dd1 some fun only for dd2 to start wailing . and later on dd1 gave the baby a smack on the head, which was nice. Hey ho. it was a day like a bad contraction - you just have to think at least once it's gone you don't have to do it again.

Been shopping in the pouring rain for DD1's birthday party. Wouldn't have gone in 'the old days', but it seemed like best opportunity. This is hard isn't it? Mind you, do like just walking and being responsible only for myself. That pinned to the sofa thing is getting to me. Hope you're all staying on top of things.

Feeling much better today as I seem to have finally sorted out my latch - so only semi-sore nips. I just have to wait for the crusty bits to heal up and I will feel human again. The trick seemed to be to hold her much further round my body and away from the breast so that she had to stretch a lot further to get to the nipple. Shame then about the marathon feeding sessions - one from 9-11pm and another from 1.30-4am....I am just having breakfast now at 11.30am - DH has taken DS to the Natural History Museum so it is peace and quiet. Not sure how I will cope next week as DH off to Brussels on Tuesday for day and night! Harman, you have my profound admiration.

Knkow what you mean Toots about that pinned to the sofa thing. Yesterday was just foul weather wasn't it and we just couldn't face going out in the end, so stayed in all day and dh mostly amused dd, while I dealt with ds, but was really depressing being in all day.

Can't sort out daytime naps with ds. I'm a routine person really and would like to be able to put him down in the evening, but most days he happens to have slept a long time in the afternoon so that come 7/8 pm he is only just waking up so really need to keep him awake during evening to be sure he will sleep again at night between feeds. I can remember when I managed to put dd down to sleep in the evenings and it's such a breakthrough to get your evenings back.

The other breakthrough would be to just have one feed in the middle of the night, but I suppose I'm wishing too much at 2 weeks old! He's eating loads though and been putting on weight well (will find out how much weight this week tomorrow). I thought bigger babies were capable of going longer between feeds, but he's disproving that one.

Today is first day on just bottles, as have been weaning off breast gradually and am glad now. Each breast feed in the last 3-4 days since I decided to stop has been agony (partly because of the increased engorgement while reducing number of breast feeds), so it has made me feel a bit better about giving up, as I have hated each feed so much (but now I feel guilty writing that - will stop thinking about it as decision made for good now).

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Exan is over with - horrah. Get the keys to our new house tomorrow. AND Today I spent my first lengh of time with both dds (2 and a half hours) by myself - and I coped (am feeling very proud!). Although everytime I put dd2 down to help dd1 do something dd2 screamed and screamed. She does not like being by herself.

We are all tired today as dd1 had a a funny tummy last night and woke up every hour until 2am when dd2 woke up and wanted feeding.

Cazzybabs congratulations on getting exam over with, just need to get your house move over with now! Can imagine you're feeling good about coping with both children on your own as it's something you dread to begin with isn't it - I still haven't done it. Dh back to work tomorrow but dd will be in nursery Monday-Wednesday so will only have to cope on own for bedtimes (although isn't that the worst time of day). Hope your dd2 is feeling better.

Hi Harman - sorry you had a horrible day yesterday, think you're right to let other people sort out your new house, you've got enough to cope with. Will your family help you out over half term too, with 4 at home to deal with?

Re. wind - have you seen the thread on the 5 'S's for colic, I thought it sounded like good tips.

I'm really worried that ds hasn't had a dirty nappy all day today, just wet nappies and that seems completely abnormal for a 2 week old. Think he's going to have tummy ache soon Think I might start a thread actually to see if it is abnormal as maybe just being paranoid?

Distracted. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback from those who know, but no poo for a day sounds ok to me. Maybe if he's a hungry boy he's metabolised all his feeds??? Or am I just talking nonsense, again.

DD2 is a pooaholic. Many, many nappy changes, just seems to shoot through. Still no weight gain but she's so alert and seems pretty happy,and I do adore her so. I know what you mean about evenings. I'm going to jump in the bath in a minute, then get my head down for 9.30. DD2 went down at 8ish so it will only be an hour and a half, but ME time nevertheless.

Harman can't think for a minute how you are coping. My heart and admiration go out to you. Just with one other dd, one nightfeed, a dp and my mum 5 miles away, I'm a raving loony some of the time. I HATE being tired. I get hysterically impatient, and quite crazy.

I did get lots of feedback on the thread I started re. not pooing (seemed abnormal as like your dd2 he has been a pooaholic up until now). Was reassuring as it does seem to be normal and in fact after his second feed in the night he had a major pooing session and produced loads (not quite as runny as before - perhaps due to formula)

Toots are you managing to do just one night feed (after feeding at 10 pm/11 pm or whenever)? How many feeds do you fit in during the day?

We don't seem to be anywhere near cutting down from 2 to 1 night feed.

Feeling pretty miserable today. I've had a rotton filthy cold all weekend and ds seems to have it too. After his second night feed at 4 am or 5 am he just seems to sneeze and cough and choke and wheeze - sounds terrible, so I don't get any more sleep listening to him and making sure he's ok. It's odd that it's so intermittant - he does cough and sneeze at other times but not like that. He's done that last 2 nights now so as well as getting up twice to feed, I've been basically awake from 4 am or 5 am each day just when I'm feeling unwell myself and could do with more rest

My mum was due to come and help me out today and was so looking forward to it (ie. having some company to cheer me up as been in all weekend due to weather, plus some time off to rest etc). With dd when she was a baby my mum was a star in trying to help me establish some sort of routine, so was hoping for a bit of help there too (I'm a routine person really). Turns out she has 'flu so she can't come, so feeling sorry for myself - just when I'm feeling ill too and could do with extra help (selfish I know, as she is more ill than me, plus don't want ds to catch 'flu)

Cazzybabs - good luck with the move today.

Cazzybabs - hope the move goes OK, you appear to be some kind of superwoman, you sound so upbeat about everything - you MUST moan on here if you feel like it!!!

Distracted - meant to say phooey to guilt. You can't carry on being in pain for goodness sake. I'm so glad you're you're getting comfortable.

We did have two feeds last night and the night before, I think it's the new normal still, if it means she's putting weight on. She's having about five full feeds and maybe a couple of snacks up to her bedtime (anytime from 6.30 to 9.30) then bottle at 11 and one/two feeds in the night. Trying to start the day at 7 - generally earlier or later. have to go now dd1 pulling me along the floor on my wheely chair

Aagh - still can't get latch right and left me and DD crying this pm with frustration - she went to sleep in exhaustion. I will have to wake her up soon if we are to feed before DS bath routine. So far DD has slept on me, and not in her cot - I never saw myself as a co-sleeper but she won't sleep any other way. Tell me it's early days yet! Toots, Distracted - you sound very organised. We don't have routine, just feed, sleep, if not feed again....

Florence - yes it still is early days, plenty of time for things to change.

Toots know what you mean about pooaholics. DS is sleeping loads, but when he is awake spends the whole time pooing. I can´t believe how many nappies we´ve already got through.

Cazzybabs - well done for getting the exam out of the way and hope the move goes o.k.

Harman - I hope you´re o.k. I think it´s amazing how well your coping.

Distracted - hope you´re feeling better soon.

Things here are going pretty well, mainly because ds spends most of the day sleeping. Instead of being pleased I´m of course stressing that he then won´t sleep at night. I´m spending most of my time trying to keep him awake, which is ironic really because I spent my whole time with dd trying to get her to sleep. I suppose sometimes we´re never happy.
Hope you´re all well and I´m looking forward to the rest of the meece joining us soon.

Florence - can really sympathise with problems with latch, poor old you. Like you say it really is early days yet. Do you manage to sleep yourself if dd sleeps on you? Sounds really sweet going to sleep cuddling her as long as you can sleep like that too.

Huppa - we've had quite a few days with ds sleeping a lot too and each time I really worry that he won't sleep at night, but so far it's been ok (although I'm crossing my fingers writing this, as just about to go to bed soon and maybe this will be the night that proves me wrong)

Wishing everyone a good night's sleep tonight

Things here seem to be going ok so far (but DH is still at home!). No routine but DS2 tends to go back down after night feeds pretty well, or at least better than I remember the other 2 doing.
Florence, both my 1st 2 slept with me until they went into a cot (rather than a moses basket), not what I planned but at least we all slept.
This morning my parents cleaner phoned me to say she had found there cat dead, there then followed a monty pythonesque hour where I tried to contact my parents (away for a few days), and siblings to try and sort it out, I can't drive, or be left alone with all my children so even though its not far neither me or DH could go. This is one of the unforseen complications of having a c-section.
Tomorrow i'm home alone, just with the baby but a novelty none the less!

Geogteach - hope your first day at home went well?

I'm on my second day on my own today and to be fair it hasn't been too bad as ds has slept a lot of the time. Just feeling so unwell though and ds has been pretty unwell too with a hacking cough and cold. He's coughed himself sick several times and last night we had virtually no sleep between feeds as he was sneezing and coughing so much, and we had to keep checking he wasn't being sick etc. (which he was several times). Poor old thing, he's far to young to be suffering so much with a cough . Just hoping last night was the worst and maybe he'll be a bit better tonight (we had to put him to sleep in the car seat for much of the night to get him more upright - hopefully won't be too bad a thing for just a few nights, have made sure he sleeps flat during day when he isn't so bad).

Home alone was fine, just with one anyway. The fun really starts on Monday when I will be responsible for all of them, already got DS lift to nursery sorted but older 2 have birthday party in the pm so need to sort out transport for that one!
I'm wearing pre-pregnancy clothes today, I can't believe how much better that makes me feel!

Distracted - What a grim night hope he's a bit better today.

Geogteach - it really didn't occur to me how difficult it would be to have another section with a toddler to organise, until I was driving her somewhere a couple of weeks ago. I do feel for you, this is a time for shameless calling in of favours really, isn't it?

Cazzybabs - hope your move went OK.

Huppa - LOL (in supportive, empathetic way) about stressing that he's sleeping when you stressed about dd being awake, that's classic.

Things here have been hectic. Had what turned out to be a really proper 3rd birthday party for dd1 on Monday, thanks in great part to mum and sister bringing shopping and helium balloons. It gave me quite a lift (I get very excited about parties) and I didn't feel too tired yesterday either. dd1 is brattish at the moment. The stem of big sister presents had only just stopped, then birthday. She was unremitting about wanting to wear her new snow white costume to nursery today as she did yesterday (special once only birthday treat) No amount of reasoning, creative explanations or distractions would move her. I had to haul it off her in the end .

Spoke to lovely chilled infant feeding counsellor who's made me feel fine about dd2's weight, so didn't take her for another weigh in yesterday. I told her the hv had said that if I'd fed her right before she'd arrived on Friday, there might have been a gain to record and I'd said it wasn't as though we were trying to sneak her into the steeplechase or something. The counsellor joked about fattening her up for Christmas. This isn't coming across, but basically I did feel like I'm so much more confident this time. Anyway. Several bits and pieces to do before dd2 wakes up. Spent megabucks in big sainsbury's yesterday - first time out, dd2 sleeping in trolley. Bought Mongolian style fluffy cushion and two pairs of cords (yuk cut - going back, v tummy unkind). Of course, both were on my shopping list

Distracted - What a grim night hope he's a bit better today.

Geogteach - it really didn't occur to me how difficult it would be to have another section with a toddler to organise, until I was driving her somewhere a couple of weeks ago. I do feel for you, this is a time for shameless calling in of favours really, isn't it?

Cazzybabs - hope your move went OK.

Huppa - LOL (in supportive, empathetic way) about stressing that he's sleeping when you stressed about dd being awake, that's classic.

Things here have been hectic. Had what turned out to be a really proper 3rd birthday party for dd1 on Monday, thanks in great part to mum and sister bringing shopping and helium balloons. It gave me quite a lift (I get very excited about parties) and I didn't feel too tired yesterday either. dd1 is brattish at the moment. The stem of big sister presents had only just stopped, then birthday. She was unremitting about wanting to wear her new snow white costume to nursery today as she did yesterday (special once only birthday treat) No amount of reasoning, creative explanations or distractions would move her. I had to haul it off her in the end .

Spoke to lovely chilled infant feeding counsellor who's made me feel fine about dd2's weight, so didn't take her for another weigh in yesterday. I told her the hv had said that if I'd fed her right before she'd arrived on Friday, there might have been a gain to record and I'd said it wasn't as though we were trying to sneak her into the steeplechase or something. The counsellor joked about fattening her up for Christmas. This isn't coming across, but basically I did feel like I'm so much more confident this time. Anyway. Several bits and pieces to do before dd2 wakes up. Spent megabucks in big sainsbury's yesterday - first time out, dd2 sleeping in trolley. Bought Mongolian style fluffy cushion and two pairs of cords (yuk cut - going back, v tummy unkind). Of course, both were on my shopping list

Durr!

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Harman - I hope you feel better soon...I think you are amazing coping with all your other children and a new born and feeling ill - I would sit in a corner of my house and cry.

Grace has a very bad cold and can't breath through her nose..it would be funny if she could sleep...but she woke up in the night every hour (a bit of a shock when before she had been waking up for 2 ten minute feeds) and then wouldn't go back to sleep unless she was sleeping upright on my chest. And the other think is she has now thrown up 2 pre-bed feeds just when me and dp where (well this might be TMI so I will leave it to your imaginations!).

Cazzybabs - my imagination is only further telling me that you are some kind of superwoman, there is none of THAT SORT OF THING going round here . So far Mel has been immune to my revolting cough. Hope it stays that way.

Harman - you poor thing, you really are poorly

But you sound in good spirits, which is pretty amazing. I'm very impressed.

Anyone else fallen prey to Phantom Wailing Syndrome? I keep thinking I can hear the baby while she's sleeping. Just fell for it again. Think it is distant electric saw or something.

(Blinks in the light) Blimey - can't believe I'm finally here!!! Just got home from hospital this afternoon. Milk not in yet but no-one has told Bean. He is sucking away.. so hopefully soon as he is VERY hungry. Have had to cup feed him formula already as I still have no supply to meet his demand, even though today is "day three... when the milk comes in". NOT a textbook baby then!

Routine? What routine? We are still too in awe of a little person who looks too wonderful to establish anything approaching rational. That and the er, 9 hours sleep I have had since Friday - "bug eyed" doesn't even begin to cover it. Am still utterly blissed out... watch this space though. Sooo lovely to be checking in with you meece though. Have been thinking of y'all while I've been away. Look forward to catching up properly soon.

About lovely time. Darling, you are so welcome, come, come over here to the VIP area. Oh, I forgot, it's one big VIP area round here.

My milk didn't come in 'til day five after my section , hope it's not that long for you.

So glad you've got some bliss. It's a very special time

Welcome Beansprout - lovely to see you here at last.

Cazzybabs and Distracted - hope your little ones are feeling better. It´s really tough when they´re ill at such a young age.

Harman - hope you´re feeling better soon - you´ve got enough on your plate without feeling ill aswell.

Toots - glad you´re feeling more relaxed about dd´s weght. As you say, the important thing is she is happy and alert.

Geoteach - can´t believe you´re back in pre-pregnancy clothes

We´re doing fine although dd has decided to abandon her daytime sleep since her brother´s arrival and is then totally miserable by 5 o´clock. I think she thinks she might be missing out on something. Hopefully after the novelty has worn off she´ll go back to napping.

Hope the rest of you are well and get a good night´s sleep.