Babies/toddlers not wearing coats when it’s freezing??

[Helpme1010]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed any increase in babies/toddlers not wearing coats when it’s freezing out! What triggered this thread is a story Stacey Solomon put up ouT walking Rex today in a pushchair with no coat. I actually see it a lot! I was wearing a jumper, coat and scarf yesterday and still freezing yet I see mums holding babies in just a hoody? I think it’s because people are becoming more aware about not putting coats on in car seats but surely you should put one on when you take them out 🤨 really pisses me off

Yeah one on @SoupDragon, get that brain in gear. Didn’t you know they sell shoes for children?!

Pathetic 🤣

I have a hot baby and you can see how red in the face he gets when he has too many layers. Particularly the second we go into a shop with the heating cranked up at this time of year.

I also wear him in a sling which firstly counts as a layer and secondly, means he shares my body heat. As his been pointed out, parents know their babies best and very very very few would ever be doing something not in their best interests so I think you need to stop being so judgmental and worry about your own children.

Plus, with regards to SIDS etc it’s far more dangerous for a baby to overheat than be too cold. The recommended room temperature actually feels quite cold to most adults, but SIDS can occur outside of the bedroom too.

My baby is boiling all the time just like his dad. If he’s going from house to car and from car to inside somewhere then he just wears a hoody (vest and long sleeved top at the moment) If we’re going for a walk in the pushchair i put him in a jumper and hoody / cardigan. If he’s in his carrier then he wears his all in one to keep his hands and feet warm but he inevitably gets too hot. He’s never worn a proper coat since he was born. He has a gilet he wears sometimes.
I think the weather has generally been quite mild though so I’m only wearing a jumper and a hoody when we’re out unless we’re going for a long walk and I’ll put my coat on.
We’re in the north east though and no one wears a coat up here 🤣

Totally with OP here. I grew up in Scandinavia, -20 c temperatures were common for months on end. These excuses of 'my child doesn't like wearing a hat/scarf/coat are weird tbh. If parents caved in to their children like this in Scandinavia they'd be charged with neglect. Children don't get to choose what they wear, it's up to the parents to dress their children appropriately! I used to teach a nursery class, I'd been sacked if I'd let children play outside with their coats unzipped, no hats or gloves etc.

I recently saw a baby being carried by his dad. Baby was wearing a babygrow and coat but had completely bare legs! His legs actually looked blue!

If parents caved in to their children like this in Scandinavia they'd be charged with neglect.

Yes. Because it's MINUS TWENTY DEGREES. Slight difference there.

Yes. Because it's MINUS TWENTY DEGREES. Slight difference there.

Exactly. Right now in the north east it’s 11 degrees (only 6 degrees colder than Palma Majorca) and I’m actually a bit too warm in my coat. Can someone explain exactly what catastrophic injury or illness is going to happen to my 2 year old in the 10 minutes between me picking her up from nursery and us getting on the train, if she doesn’t put her coat on?

no I’d never judge a mum offering a child a coat and the child refusing

So you are watching/following these parents for considerable amounts of time and listening very closely to hear whether they are offering their children extra layers? Extremely obsessive behaviour.

As I said I think it’s due to not putting coats on in car seats. Children young enough to not wear a coat due to safety or a car seat are not old enough to decide what they want to wear

Nobody, regardless of age, should be wearing a padded coat whilst strapped in to a vehicle. It doesn't seem like you actually understand the safety implications and why this is dangerous.

ffs snowflake generation or what

Snowflakes? OK. You're one of those people.

To be quite honest where I am it hasnt felt cold enough for a coat until the last week or so when we have had really bad weather and maybe one of the weeks in december. Otherwise it has been mild at best and I've been content in a long sleeve t shirt and vest top underneath plus leggings. I do feel the cold and have been surprised seeing people bundled up in coats when it really is not cold. Funnily enough alot of red faced people and kids. My baby has therefore often worn a bodysuit, trousers, socks, long sleeve shirt and either a jumper or thick cardigan when out and had no problems. Have put gloves and tried to put hat on but she often gets it off at points. I also use a blanket. I dont use a coat. When I have felt the need to wear a coat I've had her in a pram suit for walks but she does get hot and sweat quite easily it seems - perhaps a hot baby - so I dont have her in them for very long and only when cold enough. I have only got a thin coat for her ready for her next stage but will review it and get a thicker one of she needs it. I have bought here thicker coat for this winter already as a pram suit will not be convenient with her walking

Stick your nose out of other people’s lives & stop being so judgemental! Triggered by Stacey Solomon.. there’s a sign of being too invested in Instagram if ever I saw one. Have you come over from Tatle by any chance? If not, you’ll find a crowd of bitchy woman just waiting for you!

My toddler HATES her coat, pulls off her hat. Will wear gloves. You’ve not seen the 40 minute battle of wills & tantrums I’ve had to wrestle her coat on and have her immediately take it back off. As for her hat, well that’s impossible. We’d never walk anywhere if I put it back on after she’s pulled it off. So on the whole, we compromise on a thick, woolly jumper & thick fleece which she likes. Her body & arms are always toasty warm when I take them off so she’s def not been cold! I also hate woolly hats, so I dong entirely blame my DD. They make my head so hot & itchy!

Also, it’s the UK. Winter averages about 10 degrees. It’s hardly life threateningly cold. In fact, pretty mild! We’ll be in shorts & T-shirt’s in another 8 degrees time!

You dress your baby & let others dress theirs. Why are people so offended by others. Just life your own life & stop judging!

Pure and utter projection, my hands are always cold, even in the summer so I shiver when I see a baby /toddler /non verbal child without gloves in the winter. This is knowing many friends and family members who HATE gloves.
I have learnt that other people are not always like me - unfortunately .

I am responding to "Helpme1010" concerning babies out in the cold with no coats or hats. I am relieved someone else is noticing this new trend in supremely ignorant and grossly negligent parenting. For years I have watched young parents in their often stylish coats hats and boots carrying their babies in and out of stores with no hat, coat, sweater, blanket...absolutely nothing that says "I love you, I care about your health." I have consulted with my daughters-in-law about this madness (thankfully neither of whom subscribe to this stupidity) and they said it has something to do with puffy jackets and carseat straps. In other words, parents are too lazy to adjust their infants car seat straps. And, this has nothing to do with toddlers who refuse to wear a coat because these babies are far too young to have an opinion. I am proposing that this is nothing short of child abuse and neglect and these parents should be charged. Perhaps these are people who never wanted children to begin with, I don't know, but it sure seems that there are a lot of people who should really consider not having babies.

Put jumpers on your own monkeys and mind your own Circus. Trust that the person best placed to make a decision on a coat is the adult caring for the child.

I also want to add that it stands to reason that if YOU need a coat then so does your baby. All of these excuses for poor parenting are disturbing. I think maybe these parents cannot get off the phone or computer or perhaps their homes are so messy that they cannot even find their children's clothes and shoes. For heaven sake, even my dogs have coats for cold winter days and then I have to go to the store and see infants who have less regard for them than my dogs?

And as for the toddlers who don't like coats or hats, try letting them select their own outerwear at the store and make it an exciting event. My granddaughter loves her "Frozen" coat, hat and gloves. She treats herself with respect because she has always been respected.

to summerhouse, you need help

In other words, parents are too lazy to adjust their infants car seat straps

I really hope your daughters-in-law don't let their babies wear 'puffy jackets' whilst strapped in their car seats because that would be monumentally stupid.

Given your views g5271molli I find your summation that I need help strangely reassuring.

'Given your views g5271molli I find your summation that I need help strangely reassuring.'

Agreed. Have we been overtaken by trolls?

For heaven sake, even my dogs have coats for cold winter days

your dogs are nesh.

People always made disapproving comments to me about my DCs lack of a coat:hat/ gloves.. he just wouldn’t wear them and regularly discarded them en route... obviously it when tiny but as soon as he could. So YABU

Here you go g5271molli, another thread from a couple of weeks ago on the same topic where you can add your insight

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3809491-Put-a-f-cking-blanket-over-your-baby

I’d say not to jump to conclusions as I use a sling for my son and babies are not supposed to wear coats in them as they don’t sit correctly and they can get too hot being against you and in the sling, which counts as another layer. If you glanced at my getting my son out of the car you might not know I’m about to put him in our sling and do my coat up round us both. Best not to judge.

bet you wouldn't treat yourself that way.