Babies/toddlers not wearing coats when it’s freezing??

[Helpme1010]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed any increase in babies/toddlers not wearing coats when it’s freezing out! What triggered this thread is a story Stacey Solomon put up ouT walking Rex today in a pushchair with no coat. I actually see it a lot! I was wearing a jumper, coat and scarf yesterday and still freezing yet I see mums holding babies in just a hoody? I think it’s because people are becoming more aware about not putting coats on in car seats but surely you should put one on when you take them out 🤨 really pisses me off

@frillseeking

My little munchkin at the moment would normally whip off any hat with 3 seconds of having it on, but Jojo do a waterproof one lined with fur fabric that velcros under the chin. It looks a bit weird but it's really warm and cosy, great for playing out in the rain and she doesn't even try and pull it off. I wold definitely recommend it.

What if you wasn't present at the moment the parent had offered the coat or hat or gloves etc though OP?

But was Stacey Solomon’s baby crying? If he wasn’t, he wasn’t cold. Babies cry over very minor things. I doubt a cold baby would keep quiet if it was cold just to ‘make a point.’
It is your theory that people don’t put on coats because of the car seat thing. I think some kids don’t wear coats for a bunch of reasons. I think you might be generalising.
Also children are a lot more active than adults and get warm very quickly.
You have had a gamut of answers on this including the fairly sensible point that a talking toddler would make it known he was cold and a baby would cry. But somehow you are fixated on how parents are letting their toddlers freeze because they can’t be arsed to put on coats.

I spent both my dd's tiny years clutching coats that they refused to wear to appease the busy bodies who would constantly admonish me with "that child needs a coat"
I agree with those saying that it is more common for children to be overheated than not warm enough and if they are cold they will definitely cry.

I was intrigued so went and watched the story.. he's wearing a hat and the pushchair has a footmuff on.. I really dont see the problem 🤷‍♀️
It was 9 degrees today, hardly freezing!

Mums who mum bash without knowing the ins and out are just the worst!

I'm failing to see how you have come to the conclusion that it's lazy parenting? I don't know where you live, is it uncommonly cold where you are? It's been a very mild winter where I am, we've only had frost this week so far this winter (and my toddler was in his all in one fleece lined coat you'll be pleased to know), but other than that it hasn't been necessary. We walk / scoot / cycle to school, so nothing to do with hopping in and out of a car. Calling people lazy for how they dress their children whilst talking about using your car is interesting.

@seeingasyouareclueless sorry what now ? 🤣 where have I said I use my car. We walk to school 🤨

@HangryCaterpillar the footmuff barely covers him so it’s pointless. I thought it was bloody freezing today! Perhaps I feel the cold more than others

How on earth is it lazy parenting? Do you really find it that much effort to put a child's coat on and off?

And FYI, nobody, no matter what age, should wear a puffy coat in a car. So plenty old enough to know their own mind.

Isn’t that Stacey Solomon’s third baby? I’d assume that as her children have remained in her care over the years, she probably knows what she’s doing by now

And you would absolutely judge me if you saw me out with my children. But they’re autistic, have sensory issues regarding clothes and regularly kick off about what they will or won’t wear. I do actually need to leave the house occasionally, so it’s a case of picking my battles and people like you are, IMO, judgemental arseholes who should MYOB.

Also, if you’re seeing this all the time, perhaps it is YOU who is misjudging the appropriate levels of clothing for the weather in your area.

I'm with you OP. I think children running around do get warm, but a baby sitting in a flimsy buggy with the wind whistling around....not so much.

You don't know toddlers that could ask for w coat? surely there aren't many children that by the age of 2 can't ask for their coat or at the very least make it clear they're cold.
Babies who are cold cry. If they're not crying, they're comfortable.

Maybe you just feel the cold. Not everyone needs the same number of layers on 🤷 it was 13 degrees here on the south coast today so my little one was out with a long sleeved vest, a jumper and a hooded jacket.. I'm sure that might have looked underdressed to you, but it's still 2 more layers than I was wearing myself 🤷

Literally just watched her story. The footmuff was up to his armpits and he had a woolly hat on it would be a cause for concern if she lives in Siberia, but it wasn't particularly cold in the uk today, at one point I had to take my coat off. And you've said you run cold, so maybe don't assume everyone is like you. Judgey people like you are the actual worst

Mine wears his coat but drives me insane with his hat and rain cover so I stopped going out in the rain because last time I’m sure I could’ve been reported for how the rain was soaking his hair and he refused any hat!!!

But YANBU it’s freezing without a coat

Where do you live OP? My UK family all live in/around London where it’s been consistently about 10 degrees or warmer recently. When we visited at Christmas 2YO DD wore a think hoody most of time because her coat was bought for an actually cold US winter and it was too warm. If a baby is cold then they will cry but overheating can be very dangerous. If you’re seeing so many people you consider to be underdressed then you’re probably the one that’s misjudging it because you feel the cold more than most. Oh and for safety no one should be wearing a thick puffy jacket in the car regardless of age, adults included.

My 15 month old doesn't wear one for the school run. No coats in car seats and getting one on and off him takes longer than the actual school run does, meaning he'd be out in the cold for longer. He either goes into the pushchair with footmuff, or gets carried. He does always have multiple layers on though (vest, top, jumper) and I don't have a coat on either! It does worry me that we may well be getting looks over it, especially as he removes hats as soon as they're on!

Not sure I’m miss judging it when everyone else is wearing coats and the usual small talk consists of .... isn’t it freezing today and just because a baby isn’t crying doesn’t mean they aren’t cold 🤣 my first born barely cried! Didn’t mean she was never hungry, never tired etc she just didn’t cry much! Anyway if thinking babies should be wrapped up warm in our coldest months is judgey then I’m absolutely fine with that. I am the judgey mum :) also while your all at it put some socks on your babies bare feet! Another bug bare

I totally agree op I saw a mum today all wrapped up nice and warm with a big coat and hat and gloves, her poor baby who was about 6 months old had a tracksuit on, no shoes or hat or coat or blanket it was 2 degrees where I am! She got him out the car straight into a little pushchair and off she went to the school, her school aged child was wearing a rain jacket, I don't understand the logic at all! As for all the people going on about not wearing coats in the car it takes barely anytime to chuck a coat on a baby or child, why would you leave them without one?

I drive on the school run, park a 2 minute max walk from school so baby is only ever in a hooded cardigan over his clothes and two blankets. He's in the travel system car seat and no way am I getting him out of the car seat to put a snowsuit on, back in the car seat, on to the travel system all while shepherding 4 year old DS out of the car and to school. Baby is only outside for about 5-10 minutes maximum.

Still not clarifying in what way it is lazy…?

I have never put a coat on my 8 month old for the exact reason you've stated- the car seat thing. I've yet to find a coat for her that is warm but not padded like the Michelin man.

Instead, I layer. You can't see the layers but under that fleecy, thin all-in-one is a baby grow and then a long vest. This is only when in and out of the car and in the pram in the shopping centre.

If we are outside for longer than 5 minutes and it's particularly cold, she's in a snuggly pramsuit but I then baby wear her in a carrier.

She's a bugger for tearing off her hat (it's off in seconds and in her mouth) and don't even get me started on socks... she wears baby grows everyday for that reason.

I hope I'm not judged daily for the layers people can't see.

Going in the car seat, only walking/running a very short distance, super warm whole body muff in the buggy, naturally very warm child.

When DS was very little I needed to nip to the shop late one afternoon when it was very cold, he was in the sling, wrapped up with layers and with a big coat round the two of us and two busy bodies stopped me separately - one to tell me he was clearly too hot and the other to berate me for him not wearing a hat (he hated hats but had a full head of hair from birth).