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April 2004 Babies.....the 3rd installment!

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Yorkiegirl · 25/09/2004 14:01

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Fennel · 06/10/2004 09:40

wow, lots of posts all together.

chuffed, my dd3 is fully bf but nothing between 7pm and 7am - is that what you mean?

I used to only clean when people came round, now I don't always even try that. my strategy in summer was to whizz guests straight into the garden (however damp and chilly) so they might not see all the mess. garden is in a bad state too however... Now I just rely on having 3 under 5's to be exempted from cleanliness

hewlettsdaughter · 06/10/2004 10:39

Morning all, have just read all your posts from last night and this morning - can relate to lots (eg only cleaning when people visit!).
Egypt - my dd has generally been a good sleeper but isn't at the moment, I'm not sure why (though I'm putting it down to teething as she has some coming through). She has also had a cold so I don't suppose that helps.
Took dd to Notts by train - she was fine, though I'd been a bit stressy about it beforehand. She's now 24 weeks - I am going to start solids this week so hopefully she is established on rice/purees by the time she goes to her childminder (Kristina - I'm still on maternity leave but go back 1 Nov).

Chuffed · 06/10/2004 11:27

californiagirl did a good link in the march thread here which made me feel a bit better about all these changes in dd's sleep habits.
fennel I'd love it if dd didn't have anything between 7pm and 7am but unfortunately is waking up starving at the moment during the night. Between about 8am and 6pm she is lucky to have 8oz of formula as she has an am bf at 8am and then a pm one after her dinner at 6pm before bed. I doubt she is getting her 20oz.
Yes now dd is all around the floor I do have to keep it a bit tidier which makes it a bit easier to get the vacuum cleaner out. If there is hair to find on the carpet dd will find it.

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Egypt · 06/10/2004 11:38

thanks for all your comments. so some sleep and some don't. spose i shall just have to wait for the magic night to happen. trouble is she was having some good stretches and isnt now. have begun weaning but made no difference. and i cant settle her back to sleep without the boob! bad habits already!

Egypt · 06/10/2004 11:46

chuffed, that is a superb link! esp the part about nursing through the night. thank youx

Fennel · 06/10/2004 12:23

Egypt - yes I agree some sleep, some don't. whatever you do. but there are some things that might help. one suggestion if you don't want to get too tough is leaving them to whinge/cry for just 5 or 10 mins. not longer. many will go back to sleep in those few minutes. and you don't have to leave them yelling for ages and feel bad.

Chuffed - sorry, didn't mean to suggest that they are not hungry when they wake. I meant that they are unlikely physiologically to need feeding every couple of hours at this age.

hewlettsdaughter · 06/10/2004 12:23

Agree. I have been led to that kellymom site before - I like it.

Chuffed · 06/10/2004 17:43

Fennel - she shouldn't need to be fed between 7 and 7 I know and I just can't leave it as she screams merry hell. We are in a flatting situation and I'm quite conscious of the neighbours on the side and above us by leaving her screaming for too long. She has always been one for feeding quite often though never really got that 4 hours between feeds phase that many do. I'm a bit the same though, a grazer so I thought if I cut out the feed for one wake and feed the other wake at the moment then once we are down to one wake up I can concentrate on settling her only once. With work in the mornings I just can't deal with having to try to settle her twice. Selfish aren't I.
Good luck for sleep tonight.
I'm making gluten free vegetarian lasagne at the mo so will try dd on it for dinner.
I won't take credit for that link, it came off the March thread from californiagirl.

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Yorkiegirl · 06/10/2004 18:10

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hewlettsdaughter · 06/10/2004 18:47

Glad it went ok Yorkiegirl!

Fennel · 06/10/2004 19:15

Chuffed, it's hard when you've got neighbours close by. we spent 2 weeks in a holiday flat when dd2 was this age and I didn't feel I could let her yell, so she got fed more in the night.

probably not the week to worry about sleep if its your first week back at work - hows it going now?

waking just once in the night isn't too bad at this age tho (as the kellymom site says).

Chuffed · 06/10/2004 19:29

she is so good at the nursery but I think I'm going through mourning as the only quality time we'll get to spend with her is getting her ready to go and getting her ready for bed. So much has changed at work since I left although I suppose that can be expected in an IT dept.
Reading the articles on kellymom did make me feel a bit better about the sleep.
I do have a question for everybody, do any of your dd/ds have a rash that might be to do with teething. The HV seems to think it could be teething related as it came up overnight. We'll see I suppose.
oh and dd loved her lasagne and ate a really good amt.

Fennel · 06/10/2004 19:35

Chuffed are you back full time?

all our computer systems changed in the time I was off, it was so disorientating, it took me ages to work it all out with mushy post-baby brain.

my other dds got nappy rash when teething, regularly, yes. dd3 has no teeth or teething yet so can't compare her.

Chuffed · 06/10/2004 19:41

full time from next week. I've taken a 1/2 day holiday each day this week to wean myself into it.

Fennel · 06/10/2004 19:45

yorkiegirl - glad the childminder went ok. Is she going there with dd1?

chuffed - hope dd sleeps better tonight. I feel hypocritical talking about sleep with a good sleeper but dd2 was a different story - we used to pop her dummy back in to get her to sleep in the end rather than me feed her, and then she kept waking for the dummy more and more - all very tiring.

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Yorkiegirl · 06/10/2004 19:47

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Chuffed · 06/10/2004 20:21

that's so great Yorkiegirl. It's hard isn't it but I'm sure it is easier if your child is happy.

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Yorkiegirl · 06/10/2004 20:26

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Fennel · 06/10/2004 20:59

Yorkiegirl - I'm a bit reluctant to leave all 3 with DP for the day, he does cope but he does it by bunging dd3 in a corner! Not good enough for the apple of my eye . DP thinks I am very overprotective of her.

handlemecarefully · 06/10/2004 23:31

Men are very good at appearing slightly inept, so that we mums don't leave the kids in their sole care too often....

Egypt - if you are still reading, my ds is now sleeping through the night (from circa 19.30 - 06.30) but this has only been happening for the past fortnight. I suspect that he might have slept through earlier - but I made a fundamental mistake. He was breastfed until 4 months then I switched to bottles, but I forgot at that stage to change the teats on the bottles (they all come supplied with slow flow newborn teats) to medium or fast flow. Anyway, whilst I was in Rome for a few days and ds was in grandma's care she remarked upon how he took 40 minutes to take a bottle and perhaps I should try a teat with a bigger hole.... so i went out and bought a fast flow teat. The result is that ds now polishes off a bottle in 10 - 15 mins not 40 minutes and takes at least 32 fl oz between 06.30 and 19.30, whereas previously he was taking around 24 fl oz in that period and waking during the night for another 8 fl oz. I think with the slow flow teat he was getting knackered and bored trying to drink from it and not getting enough milk during the day. Since he has gone onto fast flow he drinks more and sleeps soundly at night.

dot1 · 07/10/2004 09:13

HMC - I reckon my ds holds the world land speed bottle drinking competition - about 5 - 6 minutes! And he always ends up sucking the air out of the teat and then starts to complain! I really wonder how much he'd drink if we didn't stop him...!

Fennel - sounds like a nice time was had by all yesterday - my dp was v. impressed at your dd2's 'art' skills, especially as our ds1 usually just blobs a bit of glitter glue on a page and declares it to be art, then wants to do something else!!

Chuffed · 07/10/2004 10:21

We did a controlled cry last night and dd didn't get any milk between 7.30-7.30. It was so incredibly tough. We had to pick her up and put her in the lounge at is more soundproofed then when she fell asleep put her back in her cot.

hewlettsdaughter · 07/10/2004 10:30

YG, that's great that your dd was fine at the childminder's. Excellent detective work HMC (and HMC's mum/MIL!).
This morning I had a go at expressing so that I can give dd her first taste of baby rice mixed with ebm. Got 1 oz in about 15 mins (using an Avent Isis hand pump) - enough for now but how do people get full bottles? Do you get more efficient at it with practice?
For those of you that don't know, I haven't really expressed before (except when I was trying to get breastfeeding established in the beginning). So getting the thing out of the box, sterilising it and USING it has been quite a big thing for me!

Chuffed · 07/10/2004 10:57

Expressing never got any easier for me. I hardly ever got anything out so found it a bit of a waste of time sorry.

Does the dh's ability to deal with kids change the more there is as mine is fantastic with dd and loves having daddy daughter days.

Fennel · 07/10/2004 12:47

HD congrats on the expressing did you try it before feeding dd ie when you know you're full?

it does get faster with practice.

Chuffed - dp is v good with the 2 others and was good with them as babies too (in a rather chaotic way, ie doesn't feed them if he's busy). but my 3 are often too much for one person at present, I deal with it by ignoring the older 2, dp deals with it by ignoring the baby.

Dot - we had a nice time with your dp and ds's too. A tip for lazy weaners - just visit someone else more organised when baby's hungry (due to DP not feeding her all day) and dip into their homemade baby purees

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