Am not against routines at all and I do do bedtime ones but I would just like sometimes to meet people who aren't stressed that their 3 wk old babies aren't in one. It must be great if helps you and I don't want to get into a row about whether they are good or not. I did stress about it with my first child and when I gave up it was a huge relief. Sometimes I think I am the only one who doesn't have a daytime one.