Under the sea or clouds and rainbows???

[MummyMiddleton]

Or baby boy is due on November 10th. We have a room for him but we don't want to buy and furniture or decor until we know what theme we are choosing. We are stuck between under the sea and clouds and rainbows. Both are equally cute.
We would paint the walls dark turquoise/aqua for under the sea and pale blue for clouds and rainbows. My mum has an art degree and will be painting the decor on top of the base colour (sea creatures and plants or clouds connected by rainbows).

If you had to choose, what would you go for?

Clouds and rainbows def

Not all children are manipulative. Mainly because they don't have to be.

I'm wondering whether the 2 year old who's father (my friend) died unexpectedly yesterday would have been allowed into your bed. I'm guessing not.

Sirzy

So basucally if a child is having a tantrum they should be scooped up and rocked like a baby until they are happy. Thats only encouraging it. No one I know does this. I have friends who have toddlers who are in the tantrum phase and ignoring them usually means they stop and start playing nicely. By giving them the reaction they want you are encoraging the bahaviour even more, thus creating what will become a spoiled, entitled little brat.

I thought we where talking about being unable to sleep not about tantrums?

Titty

Of course. I LITTERALLY JUST SAID that if a child was GENUINELY UPSET OR UNWELL OR ANXIOUS then we would let them co sleep. Fucking hell, its like you cant read.

I have friends who have toddlers who are in the tantrum phase and ignoring them usually means they stop and start playing nicely.

The future of psychiatry is secure then.

So how do you know if they are genuinely upset? What are they not allowed to be upset about? Let's stick with a toddler as an example.

Titty

No, they will just have respectful, humble kids. Not entitled little assholes who think they are in charge of everything.

And actually what is wrong with holding a tantruming child in a "bear hug" until they calm down? Unless they are tantruming because requests for a hug have been ignored then that's not giving them what they want but it is giving them confort while they regulate their emotions again.

Titty

You can tell when a child is genuinely upset, the behaviour and body language is very different to that of a child who is just attention seeking.

Uuuurgh I wish you'd stop saying 'attention seeking'.

Most human interaction is attention seeking. It's not automatically bad behaviour for actual fuck's sake.

3 year olds are often up in the night, not because they are unwell, anxious or having a tantrum. They wake up as they are hungry, want the toilet, wet the bed, lonely, don't like the dark - the list is endless.

Mine often slept with us and were hugged as soon as they started crying. I'm pleased to report that neither has turned into a spoilt brat.

Aaaaaand I'm out.

Tbf you're behaving like a tantrumming toddler !!

I'm done too.

At what point does all this love you have (like we don't love our children) become too much love? you do seem the smothering and obsessive type
And
The good boy / bad boy food connotations - you're fucking dangerous.

Someone rescue this poor kid.

If they were hungry, they can wait til breakfast. Eating in the night is strange and bizarre. If they need the loo, they can go (either in a potty in their room or in the loo), if they are scared of the dark they can have a nightlight or lamp and we can make some monster spray to spray in the cupboard/under the bed.

organix

I called her a cunt because she told me to put our baby up for adoption! Who says that. It actually made me cry.

Eating in the night is strange and bizarre

Newborns can eat all night long.

It may be stranger for adults to do it (you may have noticed some work at night ) but children are GROWING. They don't always need food when you decide they do. Because they ARENT FUCKING MACHINES.

Seamton

No, but during my BTEC I did months of work experience in a nursery, and trust me, you can tell!

And how many nights did you work in said nursery?

Your eyes completely unhinged. I'm not convinced you're ready for the responsibility of parenting. Your ideas are flawed but fixed so firmly that your relationship with your child - who you claim to love - will be a battle from day 1. Your moulding will make him unhappy and possibly mentally ill.

Do yourself and him a favour and do some better research. At the moment you're completely clueless and your ideas dangerous.