Domestic violence and Socail Services

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Hi,

Basically looking for some help or advice here.

Recently on boxing day me and my partner were at a family dinner and drinks.

After returning home an drunken argument started and the police were called, my partners sister was also in the house who took our 10 week son into another room whilst the police were in.

I was charged with a breach of the peace and domestic violence, after appearing at court I was realised on bail as long as I didn't contact or step foot in the property pending a court date further down the line, we have been advised that it will likely be thrown out of court.

Me and my partner are due to get married later on this year and this was the first time I had ever been given the jail for anything.

Since I cannot make contact with my partner her mother has advised me that social services are now going to get involved over something so daft.

My partner has already stated she did not want to press charges but was told the bail conditions need to stand, from anyone's experience or knowledge can you advise what is likely to happen regarding getting back with my partner and what would happen with our baby.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as you can imagine this is a very stressful time and do not know what to expect.

Peoples. The guy was charged. Otherwise he wouldn't have appeared in court. What he was charged with, depends upon how much of his OP you believe.

He wasn't just taken away to sober up in a cell and released.

He was charged and brought to court, with bail conditions imposed, to appear at a full hearing.

A drunken argument doesn't normally end up with someone going to court.

So I'd say, it is safe to assume that we are hearing about one tenth of the truth.

But clearly someone disagreed and thought police intervention was necessary. They don't arrest everyone having an argument if they feel it will be resolved that easily. You were deemed a threat and until you recognise that you can expect that authorities will be involved. I'm not sure it is wise to be liaising via her family.

If your partners sister was on the other side of the house looking after the baby, why did she have to take it into another room when the police came?

Something's just not adding up here op, but in any case, you need to show all the relevant agencies you'll comply with any conditions they see fit to impose.

I agree LikeADivil. If he was that drunk he might not remember how aggressive his behaviour actually was. It seems he is telling us what he wants to believe!

You and your partner were drunkenly abusing and swearing at each other? Poor bloody baby.
This is unacceptable.
Hoping SS will be involved.
And FFS don't marry. This is unhealthy.

Boxing day was a Saturday. Courts reopened on Monday in Scotland so two nights in a cell I presume?

You need to separate the two issues.

Ss will visit your ex and look at your home. They will talk to the health visitor. And request a gp record if they have concerns. They will speak to you too.

They will want to see that the baby is well cared for, has a cot, some toys and is clean. They will mainly want to know his mother can safeguard him. They will want to know why both of you think it's fine to not only both get drunk but to have a screaming match so loud that a neighbour called the police. They will want both of you to understand what you did was unacceptable and see steps being made to change that.

What they won't want to hear is you making excuses.

Courts will likely convict and give you community service.

Where does he say he's in Scotland?

It's quite obvious shark

BastardGoDarkly I'm sorry if I am being dense but how?

Shark - I presume bank holidays are the same all over the UK? Ireland is a wee bit different, but that's for another discussion! :)

In any case, he either denied it (hence court), or admitted it but wasn't suitable for a caution (previous).

It would have been serious to appear in court. Possibly due to the witness (sister).

Were you questioned under caution OP? You must have been. You would have had the right to a solicitor. If it was just an argument, first offence, why not just a caution? Heh?

I'm presuming Scotland too, as breach of the peace is a criminal offence here. The violence reduction unit (if you're in the Strathclyde area) do great work by cracking down at the first sign, as all evidence points to situations rarely being a one-off, but escalating. You are likely to be convicted, and whether or not you will be able to live in the same house as your child will be down to a SS assessment. You are doing yourself no favours by minimising the situation.

All he says is Boxing Day (I'm not getting where it's Scotland I'm really sorry!)

Boxing day is not a bank holiday in Scotland but 2nd Jan is. So yes, regional differences in holidays.

Use of "the jail" is an indicator the op is from the Glasgow area. I may be wrong but that's why I assumed.

AgentProvocateur and LexiGrey thank you for explaining and BastardGoDarkly my apologies for being thick.

England has brought in new domestic abuse charges haven't they?

But Boxing Day is a Bank Holiday in Scotland :S

Oh sorry shark I didn't mean to come across like that.

It was obvious to me with the ops turn out phrase, I've got lots of Scottish friends.

Apologies.

The jail is an east of Scotland term too. Boxing Day was a Saturday and court was closed til Tuesday as a bank holiday.

But you have to follow the bail conditions and seek proper legal advice. It's highly likely SS will visit both of you to ensure your child is not in danger.

BastardGoDarkly I am loaded with the cold and possibly not thinking clearly I just thought I was missing something that the OP had said.

Either way, he's been an utter prat and needs to do what the court has said with the bail, and work on his issues because shouting and yelling in front of a teeny baby to the point where someone else called the police is not good. Least of all for the baby.

Safe to assume OP is not a lovely man.

It wasn't just to the point of police being called though shark.

It was to the point of police arresting him, detaining him, bringing him to court, bail conditions being set and a date for a hearing being set.

Must have been some argument. *sigh

LIkeaDivil I agree it must have been some fierce row.