May Babies

[GeorginaA]

Have we got enough that I can officially open this thread yet?

How are your little ones doing prufrock, twiglett, snowbird?

I think mine is going down with jaundice. Dh isn't convinced, but it's either that or he's got a lovely tan sigh. I remember all the stress associated with that last time with ds1... hoping ds2 doesn't get it as badly.

He's still being a very sicky baby, about a couple of teaspoons a few hours after each feed (which is odd - I'd have thought if it was a reflux type thing it would happen immediately after the feed?) Midwife seems to think it'll settle after the milk comes in but if not then we'll look at some sort of baby gaviscon. Poor little mite, can't be comfortable for him... and we're sure getting through a lot of laundry!

Feel so bloody knackered at the moment, fed up of bits leaking and being sore, and it's only day 2! How long is it before you start feeling human again? Please tell me that it's sooner than the 2 week paternity leave dh gets!!

vivat. dd is going 2-3 hours in the day between feeds at the moment. the same at night actually.

libb - we came to the agreement that cuddling to sleep is fine! read the posts from yesterday. i asked the same very reassured now

dd slept for 3 hours this afternoon and so did mummy grandma is babysitting again tonight!!! can u believe it?! we are just going for a quick drink with the same group as yesterday (dh's work commitments). just a QUICK drink

I am demand feeding too, Egypt. Your night time pattern is like mine has been last 2 days which is reassuring as she used to go 3 hours between feeds overnight... I was anxious that we were going backwards not forwards. She is so sleepy she doesn't feed enough to stay down longer, despite light on, nappy change etc. - I am more tired today because of all this but she still only went 2- 21/2 hrs between feeds. During the day she'll go 2 1/2 - 3.

We are all sucking our hands too, and batting toys like there's no tomorrow - v. cute.

Madame Zovirax has been fired for gross inaccuracy but before she left she was heard to mutter that Twiglett used to be a tiny thin Asian woman until she posted that damn' photo. And that Spots might be tall with shaggy bleached hair and a penchant for white clogs ( not far off, Libb!). But you know how crap her psychic readings are.

Cat, glad all was fine. I had a blood/ vomit scare last month and DD was in hospital with it - there was a silver lining to the cloud, because it was so valuable to learn to trust, as you say, the fact that if they LOOK ok they probably ARE ok. Doesn't make it wrong to call NHS direct tho' .

good to know spots.

where are you lot posting pictures? i really am missing something here!

A couple of pictures just for Egypt

I also have a photo blog here but it's mostly taken up with photographic scavenger hunt stuff at the moment - however, if you use the Category drop down menu and choose Li'l Bhaji (my pseudonym for ds2 on there) you'll find another couple of cute ones. Ds1's category is Akra Jr.

Ooops... pointed you in the wrong direction for the photo blog ... try here instead.

Incidentally, can we start a new thread soon - this one takes ages to load up now

I'm off out tonight too! Pizza and a laugh with some girls. Am so giddily excited it is pathetic. I am starving though, and coveting DH's ravioli concoction which he is snorting down at a great rate of knots . Yes, please start a new thread!!

GeorginaA,

Just looked at your website, and your kids Are soooo cute, loved the one when he is lying aginst the Cot bars, my two did that all the time. He looks so peaceful

Also, you totally have a photographic eye, have you trained in this.

Your photos take an ordinary situation and make them diifrent. You should think about some kind of job in this, look at what Venture charge for something a little bit different.

Thank you for the compliment you've made my day! However, I'm nowhere near professional standard - I "read" a lot of photography blogs and I am very very much the amateur! I do find it a lot of fun though, especially this scavenger hunt

Our DD is weighing in at 11lb 11oz, or at least was on Tues - having put on 10oz this week. At my expense I can't help feeling... sorry to go on about the nips but it's no better, and last night we revisited the blood-in-vomit scenario that saw us in hospital for 4 days last month. This morning I managed to express 2 1/2 oz milk, which was cheering - but have few opportunities to do this so not that confident that it will become a form of relief. She is sleeping a lot less during the day and we are both going round with faces like vinegar. Generally..... DAGNAMMIT.

Sandi tell us about the house you are going to look at... is this a big move?

by the way the GF mum who visited us the other day turned out to be perfectly normal and laid back, not bossy or annoying at all! I realise I have a weird fascination for the whole GF business which some might translate as temptation...

I'm also feeding on demand although with a set bedtime - ie in the bath with DS at 7 then I feed her and put her down ( around 7.45) while DH sorts DS out. Then she usually wakes at 2 ish and again at 5 (and sometimes 6 but trying to get rid of this as DS wakes at 7 so basically means no sleep after 5). Last two days I have instigated getting her up at 7 and am hoping that some sort of day time routine (naps and feeds) will emerge from this.

Today she fed at 2, 5, 7, 8.15, 9.45, 11.15, 3 (went out so slept for a while) 4.45 and 7.15. So not much pattern there.

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Well I've been anything but normal and laid back today!! Thus matching every GF stereotype going I think! I blame it on the little sleep we had last night.

Ds1 (as you may have seen from another thread) had a night terror about 9pm last night - didn't realise what it was at the time but it was really scary for all of us. He then woke up another (3? 4?) times in the night - but "normal" night wakings rather than night terrors, if you see what I mean. That plus baby waking for his scheduled feeds means we're all absolutely knackered and completely utterly irrational.

Fortunately for ds2, he seemed to have read the book last night so was absolutely perfect - spot on - all the timings until it went downhill around 3.30pm (at my natural lull in energy on the best of days) which cunningly coincided with picking his brother up from nursery and him being a whiny little wotsit (almost certainly due to overtiredness) and all my laid backness went to pot... "no child ... you WILL wait until 5pm EXACTLY for your next feed". Poor wee mite.

I'm more relaxed now, honest.

(um... that reads really badly - I didn't make him wait an hour and a half for a feed, honest. He fell asleep unexpectedly at 3.30 which threw everything for a spin... I was a bad mummy today, but not THAT bad a mummy...)

Oh and I stepped on and broke one of ds1's cars today. I'm in his bad books. Again.

Snap Georgina ! I had lovely smiley baby all morning at Toddler Group....and then alone in the confines of our house this afternoon he became HUGELY whingey until...oooh....bedtime at least! Every time I tried to put him down in his chair so I could do something stimulating and wholesome with DD, he just moaned and groaned. And jogging 16lb of that on your shoulder is no joke!
DH is away for most of the weekend so I don't feel like I'm going to get any respite at all. Have planned things to do for the mornings and was going to mooch around the house in the afternoons, but today has made that not seem like a very pleasant option! Oh well, tomorrow's another day....

hi all, seemed to have worked out what DS2 prob is...flemmy chest..can hear it clearly now and feel it when my hand is on his back..poor thing..has anyone any tips?..my sis in law reckons i shud not go to the doctors, as he will only prescribe something, and she said ds2 needs to fight it off for himself..what do you think?

i'll will continue with fennel tea..

and spots, the house move is now off..i am so angry!!..the owners of my perfect house (4 beds, 3 reception rooms, large garden with pond) have decided to take it off the market..we're back to square 1..

so back tp property pages and rightmove.co.uk

i read so much abt GF..i want to buy her book "contented baby" one..is it reccomended?

i shud borrow it really from a library, being a librarian and a firm believer in public libraries..i'll c whether my local has a copy..otherwise i'll check amazon..

Hello all,

Been out again tonight, this is becomming a habit now, lol mother in law was available to babysit so dh and I nipped into town for a drink at the new pub that opened this week. Waited 20 minutes to get served at the bar which was 3 deep had one drink then left. went to another bar and had another drink there though then went round to dh's work and had a drink there, he works in a restaurant so that one was free. It's nice to get out once in a while, probably won't get out again for ages now though. Libb how was your night out with your friends? Was ds good for his daddy?

dd's were fine though dd2 went to bed at 9pm before we went out and didn't stir while we were away so that's fine. Hopefully we're on track for a bottle at 4am.

Sandi, I bought the Gina Ford book from Asda was only about £5, did think about going to the library to get it as I know that they have it since I work there but decided it was easier just to buy it since it's so popular and is always out on loan.

Went into town this afternoon and got dd2's photo's taken for her passport. Had to do them twice as the first ones were to dark. Shame really as the first time she lay perfectly still and looked really cute. Second time she squirmed about and has her hand beside her face but they said that would be ok since she's not covering her face and of course she still looks cute. She had her eyes open so they are good photos. Now just have to send off for her passport, will only be going to London but we still need the passport to get on the plane.

Cat that's exactly how my granny sounds, "you're obviously incompetent and don't know what you're doing". I also have a 6 year old so although it's been a long time I do have a rough idea of what I'm doing, lol I shouldn't be so hard on my granny though really. She is in her 70's and things were done differently in her day and my grandad passed away 4 months ago so it's been a tough few months for her, well for us all really we were all very close. The saddest part is that he didn't live to see dd2 born and he was really looking forward to the new baby. He died quite suddenly so it was quite a shock to us all. But granny really is nice dd1 stays with her every Saturday night, has done since she was about 4 years old. Started off as a one off thing for dh and I to go out and celebrate his birthday and has turned into a weekly night out for dd1. Sadly because she's quite old there's no way she can look after both dd's at the moment but she usually has dd1 on hogmanay so dh and I can go out and celebrate the new year so I'm hoping that by then dd2 who will be 7 months will be able to stay with her as well, she shouldn't be needing any feeds in the night by then so it should be ok. If not then dh and I will just have to stay home and celebrate instead. But that is a long way off yet so I really don't need to be worrying about it.

right better get to bed and get some sleep before dd2 wakes for her feed.

Hope you're all doing well. We're going to the circus tomorrow I just know that dd1 will be bouncing off the ceiling at the crack of down asking if it's time to go yet, oh the joys of parenthood, lol

night all

Hi all,

Linnet, my dad passed away when i was 15, so i feel as if he hans;t seen anything of my life really (marriage, kids, graduation etc) and i feel really sad abt it. But i do think he's up there looking at us and is proud (i hope) of what we've achieved. I;m sure you're gran gets so much joy from your kids. My in laws can be a right pain (esp. when i live with them!!), but i always smile when I c them holding and playing with their grandchildren. Time is so precious and sometimes i don't realise how quickly time goes by.

linnet, which library do u work in?

ds2 feeding a little better 2day. When to ottakers and skimmed thro the GF book. Everything seems so rigid and structured. Shud we really b raising our babies this way? Shouldn't we just let them guide us and the routine of things is surely to follow?

going on my first social outing. 25th wedding anniversary party at the town hall. There will be plenty of loud music, so should i put cotton wool ds2 ears? Is it safe?

Sandi, Glad to hear that ds2 is feeling a bit better today. Ds2 should be fine I would think. The noise probably won't bother him. Not sure if it's safe to put cotton wool in his ears but you could try it. I'm sure he'll probably just sleep through the noise.

I also think that the GF book is slightly too structured, for me anyway, but what I do is read through it and then try to use bits of it. But there are others on this thread and other threads on mumsnet who have found that GF's routines work for them. Like others have said on this thread she mentions that after a baby has been awake for 2 hours or nearing 2 hours they start to get sleepy, I've noticed that part at least is true when it comes to my dd. So I try to put her down for naps if she's been awake for 2 hours. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I never tried following the routines to the letter though but I do like the idea. When dd2 was born dd1 was still at school so we just let dd2 do what she wanted. Now that dd1 has finished for the holidays, I'm up in Scotland and we finished at the end of June, I'm trying to work on a routine. She has actually found her own little routine. She eats nearly every 4 hours on the dot and she goes to bed every night between 9 and 10pm. I'm hoping that by the time dd1 goes back to school in August dd2 will be sleeping through from 7pm-7am.

Sorry to hear about your dad. It's tough losing a parent when you're young. My mum died when I was 20 and dd1 was just 4 months old. DD1 doesn't remember my mum but we have lots of photo's of them together. I like to think that my mum and now my grandad as well are looking down on us.
That's what we tell dd1 anyway. She was very close to my grandad but oddly wasn't as upset when he died as we all thought she would be. I think the adults were more upset than she was. Kids can be strange, the budgie died a few weeks after grandad and dd1 cried more over the budgie.

Took dd1 to the circus today and she loved it, mil looked after dd2 so it was nice for dh and I to have a day out with just dd1. cost a small fortune of course but hey the circus is only here once a year.

Georgina night terrors are so mad, I witnessed my niece have one... hope last night was ok. what happened anyway? did he know where he was/ who you were?

I do love weekends, with two of us looking after one dd. Lots of cheesy local fairs are on. Can't wait till dd old enough for dodgems.

He hasn't done it again yet, fortunately, although I suspect that it wasn't a one off and we'll have to deal with it again at some point.

It's hard to say what was going on, to be honest. He was just completely incoherent until a bit later on when he was just screaming "NO!" at us whenever we asked him things like "does it hurt anywhere?" "did you have a bad dream?" It was almost like a full blown tantrum that had come out of nowhere. Didn't know it was a night terror until afterwards as it just didn't occur to me that he wasn't awake because his eyes were open!

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