May Babies

[GeorginaA]

Have we got enough that I can officially open this thread yet?

How are your little ones doing prufrock, twiglett, snowbird?

I think mine is going down with jaundice. Dh isn't convinced, but it's either that or he's got a lovely tan sigh. I remember all the stress associated with that last time with ds1... hoping ds2 doesn't get it as badly.

He's still being a very sicky baby, about a couple of teaspoons a few hours after each feed (which is odd - I'd have thought if it was a reflux type thing it would happen immediately after the feed?) Midwife seems to think it'll settle after the milk comes in but if not then we'll look at some sort of baby gaviscon. Poor little mite, can't be comfortable for him... and we're sure getting through a lot of laundry!

Feel so bloody knackered at the moment, fed up of bits leaking and being sore, and it's only day 2! How long is it before you start feeling human again? Please tell me that it's sooner than the 2 week paternity leave dh gets!!

Thanks for all the tips - have decided not to panic about tomorrow's deadline and just keep working at it gradually. He usually has his bath, big feed and sleep through from around 6-8pm so will do that as normal and then travel into Cambridge for the party - if he follows his usual pattern he should then wake around 2am - and I will be back home by then so fingers crossed . . . will still make up some formula just in case! Then DP will just have to get on with it the best he can . . .

Seems so strange to think that just 6 weeks ago I was getting stressed about his breastfeeding habits! and by the way, if it is a growth spurt then why does all that extra milk keep re-appearing all over his clothes for ages after the feed?!

I like the idea of taking bets on their weights! DS was 11lb 7ozs last Friday (7 weeks) - so what will he be tomorrow? I am thinking 12lb 4ozs but there is the possible growth spurt so who knows for sure - he's the chunkmeister! and will be very lanky I think! I will let you know . . .

Had bizarre conversation with health visitor who was adamant that DS was only 6 weeks old - I was flipping there, I know how many chuffing weeks old he is! dagnammit! (thanks Twiglett for the non swear word that goes a long way!)

I have also had a brief experimentation with make up this morning ready for tomorrow evening - had forgotten the amazing power that is the full works - am going to look very odd going out for our walk today!

Had better go and wash some of it off . . . .

libb, re. teats..i'm using avent and at 6 weeks changed to slow flow and i now (8 wks) think ds2 is ready for medium flow, cuz he's taking an hr to feed 5-6 oz..and gettting frustrated towards the end of bottle, jerking and crying..sounds like what judd was saying..growth spurt..its so reassuring to know we're going thro the same things..

will try medium flow 2day and will let u know, libb..

put ds down at 8.30 last night..up at 2.15 for feed and back down at 3.00am..he woke again at 8am..

by the way, we're looking 4 a bigger house..going to view one on sat..there's 6 of us in this house..2 in-laws, but u could count them as 2 spolit kids at times!

oh i forgot to mention the cradle cap..it's disapeering from the eyebrows, but his forehead has dry, red patches of flaky skin..cheeks r not too bad now..olive oil is drying up after an hour of putting on..i shall persist and c if it makes any difference..aqueous cream will b arriving 2night..so will try that if olive oil does not shift the dry bits..

just gave ds a feed with medium flow..and started to scream after only 2oz..same as before..what do i do? he used to take at leaset 6oz..how long does this spurt last?

Well I tried to follow you with the DTaP twiglett and Georgina, but failed completely with GP today - he refuted evry one of my arguments with "the NHS says it's safe, and it's all we can do" and reffered me to the hospital clinic for all vaccinnes as I wasn't prepared to accept the DTwP.

Did get ds weighed today though, and finally had the 6 week check. And at 10 weeks my little bruiser weighs 14lbs 12oz No wonder he's grown out of his clothes.

Oh and yes GF is very very bossy - but still talks sense. Unfortunately some of her followers (but obv. not me, GA or Judd) can also be very bossy!

prufrock..great news on the weight gain..what did ds weigh at birth?..and what does GF mean?

hi linnet - i am wondering whether to wake my dd at 11pm too for a feed, but also feel bad about waking her when she is so fast asleep. And it's quite hard too ! She has a feed at 8 ish, then through to 1.30am then about 5am.

What do you Gina Ford mums think ?

GF is Gina Ford Sandi - a very contentious woman on Mumsnet and ds was 8lbs 1/2 oz at birth @ 37 weeks (the early date is why I'm here in May Mums despite him being born in April - nobody has chucked me out yet)

vivat - you don't have to wake her fully. I always find it nicer when ds has a dreamy feed. I would try it for a few nights (if you are still up at 11pm obv.) but stop if it has no discernable difference on her nightime sleep.

Oh and just been called back by the hospital to say they don't stock DTaP. Couldn't be bothered to argue with them, now need to decide whether to argue more with GP or find somewhere to do it privately. AAArrrggghhh

Hello all

I know I may be opening quite a can of worms here but as far as I'm concerned GF is a mirical worker! We did have some problems in the beginning but now DD is going down at 7.00pm having to be woken for an 11-11.30pm feed and then sleeping till 6.00am!
Vivat- I generaly try and do a dream feed at 11.00-11.30 DD is quite a deep sleeper when she gets there, so she doesn't normaly wake up very much at all, as long as i keep everything as quiet as possible, and the lights very low.
Judd- dd is 8 weeks tomorrow and seems to be going through a similar stage to your ds. She's still on a two hole in teat programme, how are people with 3 teats finding it?
Sandi-hope feeding's got better.
Libb-Yes next week would be good i just sent you a mail actualy.
Hope everyone's okay, and than ks for feedback on the MMR. To be honest I don't think i want to risk it, but I'm still not 100% sure.
Cat
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i'll have to look out for GF..

i'm a bit worried now abt ds2 feeding..he's really slowed down and is sleeping more..3 hours this morning from 9-12 which is the longest nap he's ever had in the day..when he woke i thought he'd be starving as his last feed was 5 hours b4..but he only took 4oz, when he would normally take 6-7oz..shud i b worried?..he's still squriming and jerking when feeding..

That's a pain, prufrock I wonder if the NHS are clamping down more on "non-standard" vaccines due to the whole MMR hoohah?

Personally, I've come to the conclusion that while the doctors are very good and pleasant at our local surgery they are also completely broke as a practise. I asked for the mirena at my 8 week postnatal check today and was told that it was only given to women who have other underlying problems, like trying to avoid a hysterectomy as it was very expensive!

Pah! My boy would like to challenge you ALL to an arm wrestle behind the moses baskets! We weighed in at 16lb 4oz yesterday (8 wks 1 day)and, yes, I am the 5ft 2ins girl with arms like Popeye !!!
Mind you, we had a head start with a birth weight of 11lb +.....
I was talking to a girl at Toddlers about DS's huge size (he's long rather than porky) and how it was nice that he was going to be tall and DD is going to be shorter, and mentioned that if it was the other way round, DS could suffer from "short man syndrome". Of course, this girl's husband happened to be 5ft 6ins...
Cue immediate change of subject and compliments showered on her offspring etc etc etc....

Sandi, if he's still sleeping loads then he's probably OK. Thing with bottle feeding is that you can see exactly how much they have/haven't taken and worry. With b/f, of course, you don't have that knowledge and so you also don't have the worry!
I took DS to the docs on Monday after he hadn't fed well for the weekend. However, this was coupled with a CORKING wind problem (which impacted on the whole family, believe you me ) and general miserableness. He's now back to normal but even when he wasn't feeding well, he was still sleeping OK which also reassured me.
We went back for a follow up appointment today and the doctor said he thought he could hear a heart murmur. YIKES. However, he says its very common in young babies and could just be because he was wriggling about so much. We have got to have him listened to again next week, and then will be referred to the hospital if there is still doubt over it.
I'm so glad the doctor took me seriously. When I took DD at about the same age for feeding problems, the doctor(different) didn't even examine her and told me I was using DD as a cry for help and would I like some medication. As it happens, I was actually depressed but it didn't do me a great deal of good to hear her be so nasty about it !! Mind you, at University the nurse once told me that my VERRUCA was in my mind and asked if I was using it as a cry for help!! I must just have this vulnerable, not-long-for-this-world look about me......

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Maybe not huge amounts - but isn't that double what the ordinary dtp costs? I imagine factoring that in over all the children they see each year x3 doses it would increase their budget considerably. That's certainly the impression I get from the surgery - they don't want to do it in case word gets out and every mum asks for it.

well my little 6 week old bissum is 10lb13 and a half! she is now climbing higher than the 50th centile line on the chart. was 7lb12 at birth. apparently she is a porker

well, strange one today, she has been awake ALL day from 10.30am. we went to work and she was so alert and happy, being held, then to the clinic, at which she did sleep for about half and hour, but then wide awake until about 5pm. took a bit to finally go to sleep, (overtired i guess) but has now been asleep since. it is 9pm and i have decided to just let her sleep it out as if she were in bed. (shes in her rocker). what i 'm wondering, is whether to do a dream feed now,then put her in her moses basket or leave her to wake herself up then feed her and put her in her moses basket. hmmmmm....today is totally not a GF day, even though i'm not following it. what would u suggest? obviously a bit concerned she won't sleep from 2am onwards as she's been asleep since 5!

sorry, i always go on and on about her sleep patterns on here, just humour me - it's so amazing how that becomes the most important thing in my life - oh gawd

judd, - 16lb 4oz!!!!!! you're doing something right love!

hI judd, sorry to hear abt ds..hpoefully will cum to nothing..i hate nothing more than taking babies to hosp..spent a lot of time in them with ds1..urine reflux problem and ds2 has the same thing..scans, follow ups, and the infection were unpleasant for every1..apparantly hereditary..my husbands side..

i'll c how ds2 get's on over the next 24hrs..may phone HV 2moro..he just seems so distressed when offered the last half of the bottle..esp. when he was feeding fine, can't seem to know what's gone wrong over the last day..

went to ds2 parents evening..can't believe how time has flown..he was our baby of the family..and will now b starting reception in sept..he's seems so grown up..

cat82, tried teat 3..didn't make much difference really..so sticking with teat 2 for the time being..

certainly call HV sandi, could just be a growth spurt i guess. praps he wants little and often. like i said,, dd is being the same, but on the breast you cant tell how much she takes. she's certainly agitated. although having a blocked nose doesnt help. have to admit, resorted to the tweezers again today when there was one there.....just ready to come out........sorry!

sorry sandi, misreading your msgs. feeding less often and less quantity? hope hv has some answers for you. try not to worry though. these little uns have their reasons. odd though they are

Egypt, .i can't resist it either, i've got a thing abt keeping ds1&2 nose and ears clean..

and cradle cap has disappered..just battling with the dry skin on forehead now..using aqueous cream..aveeno has been reccomended..which i'll use on ds1 first..

giving him an extra feed..only had 21oz 2day ..

Georgina - interested in what you say about the mirena as I posted below that I can't have one fitted until December - and I was suspecting that was a budgets issue.

I've not much to report on DD - did quite well last night - in bed and asleep by 8.15 (would have been earlier but DH away so had to get DS in bed before I could feed her), then woke at 1 and 4 and 7.55 (but had to take DS to nursery then so she had to go in her sleepsuit unfed).

Personally I prefer to get to bed at 10 and then have a few hours before the nighttime feeds than be faffing around feeding her at 11.

Egypt, our dd's sound about the same. dd2 was also 7lbs 12oz when she was born, funnily enough that's the same weight I was when I was born too, bit of useless info there for you all anyway dd2 was 6 weeks last week and weighed in at 10lbs 15oz like I said earlier so it sounds like their weight gains are the same. I was worrying that she was gaining so much weight because I had put her on bottles so early. But since your dd and the other babies are all gaining to be nearly the same amounts I don't need to worry.

Had a good day today went out for lunch with my friend, ladies who lunch yipee it's been ages. Left both dd's with Dh then met up with them later on in town. Had a good day then went home and my cousins were at my granny's house so they spent a good couple of hours cuddling dd2 since she was quite awake. She was windy though as it was that time of day and she kept crying then dozing off to sleep then waking again when the wind rumbled in her tummy.
My granny, trying to be helpful but not managing it, kept saying she must be hungry you should feed her, how long since she last fed she must be hungry, don't let her cry like that she's obviously hungry etc etc etc. Aaagghh, I kept saying granny she's not hungry trust me I know what I'm doing. In her eyes though I'm just a child and I can't possibly know what I'm doing even though I'm actually a 27 year old woman after all she's an old lady who's had babies and knows all about them .

I must admit that I remember using the tweezers to unblock dd1's nose when she was little, have never admitted that to anyone before but sometimes it's the only way to unblock their tiny little noses.

spots, you make me laugh. yes i have long brown hair. it is straight cos i dry it straight but when left is unevenly wavy! mousy stage unfortunately, needs a darker booster from a bottle! am 5'4" and have a few groovy tshirts which not worn for a loooong time. red in the face could be q accurate at times too!

ooo, forgot to say, went out last night with dh and his work crowd for a curry. left house about 7, after feeding dd. left her 8oz in fridge for my mum and came home at 10.45pm. she has taken 6 oz in one feed. (is this about right all you bottlers?) she had fallen asleep in mums arms whilst watching rose and maloney and was put to bed about 9.45. not a murmer. she woke and fed sleepily at 12, 2.30, 5.30, woke at 7.30 and fed at 8am. seem to have a pattern emerging. is now asleep in her chair and has been from 9am. bless so pleeeeeeeased