May Babies

[GeorginaA]

Have we got enough that I can officially open this thread yet?

How are your little ones doing prufrock, twiglett, snowbird?

I think mine is going down with jaundice. Dh isn't convinced, but it's either that or he's got a lovely tan sigh. I remember all the stress associated with that last time with ds1... hoping ds2 doesn't get it as badly.

He's still being a very sicky baby, about a couple of teaspoons a few hours after each feed (which is odd - I'd have thought if it was a reflux type thing it would happen immediately after the feed?) Midwife seems to think it'll settle after the milk comes in but if not then we'll look at some sort of baby gaviscon. Poor little mite, can't be comfortable for him... and we're sure getting through a lot of laundry!

Feel so bloody knackered at the moment, fed up of bits leaking and being sore, and it's only day 2! How long is it before you start feeling human again? Please tell me that it's sooner than the 2 week paternity leave dh gets!!

Our LTN seems to go well if he's in his own cot (not a pitchblack room but a bit quieter and a bit darker) - in fact I usually have to go in and wake him up. It all goes a bit pearshaped on the days I have to take ds1 to nursery (lunchtime nap in pram) though. An added complication is that some days he's a bit more tired early mornings so will have an hour and a half instead of 45 mins for that first nap, which obviously impacts on the LTN. But tbh, I've just been going with the flow - I try to settle him again, but if after about half an hour it's clear he's not going to then we just go about our day and I try to encourage a longer 4/5pm nap (i.e. he'll conk out around 3.30 instead - but I make sure he's awake at 5pm so I can get him to bed at 7pm!)

Some days he's a perfect GF poster child purely by his own choice. Other days we have a bit of a movable feast, but roughly about right. I try and aim to keep the feeds on schedule to keep some sort of structure for him.

DD also had her jabs today. And she's been really miserable from about 2.30 pm up until bedtime. She had some inflamation and swelling around the hepetitus leg and has been sleepy and not wanting to feed. Gave her calpol at bathtime and then she had a good feed and has gone to bed so hopefully past the worst.

Can't believe all you with your weight loss. I lost a stone when DD was born and another stone since but still have nearly 2 to go.

We have jabs on Monday. What is infanrix, Georgina? I know I could go and look it up somewhere but you are SUCH a good explainer and I can't be arsed...

I am going to entertain you by trying to express the mental picture I have of some of you, in a psychic sort of Madame Zovirax sort of a way.

Linnet has very straight black hair which she wears in a ponytail. She pushes the pushchair at super speeds and wears tight blue jeans.

Libb has sort of honey blonde hair and a nice round face. she will often be seen in a shirt, and frequently a cambric shirt at that.

Kbaby must be a redhead... with a few freckles on her nose. She can really carry off a dress.

Prufrock has short dark hair like Tamsin Greig in Black Books. Even when she wears fleeces and stuff she looks sort of snappy.

Egypt has brown hair which is wavy and a collection of groovy t shirts. She gets very red in the face when she is angry.

Judd, sorry but you are Lesley Judd ex of Blue Peter. Who was a heroine of mine when I was little, so it's not so bad.

Bozza is tall and tans well, sort of outdoorsy. She must have a dog I reckon.

Twiglett and Georgina, you spoiled my psychic line by posting photos of yourselves... Sandi and Cat, Madame Zovirax is working on it.

Am I right? am I? am I?

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Ok thanks twiglett... I suspected it might have something to do with mercury. Sounds only sensible to ask for the Infanrix one really.

Spots! Wrong, wrong, wrong. Although I do envy Lesley her flowing patchwork garb! I am small (just over 5ft) with short dark brown hair. However, being small, everybody can see my copious amounts of grey so I tend to dye quite often (crap home kit cos DH won't sanction the salon !). Therefore hair is currently black due to a hormonal imbalance post-pregnancy when applying (it SAID rich dark brown on the packet!). I'm thinking Winona Ryder but without the shoplifting !
So what are you like then?

LOL Spots. But I am 5' 4" with very fair skin, no dog and not very athletic... Still I suppose you've got to do something when you're pacing the floor ...

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Thanks for LTN input Georgina! Can't wait until its a bit more stable myself, so that I can put him down and not immediately have to go and cook fish fingers (obviously the A.Karmel sesame seed coated ones ) incase he wakes up before I've fed and watered big sister!

Is Joely Richardson still going out with Jamie Theakston ?

spots I loved your thoughts on what you think we all look like.

Your picture of me is quite good. I don't have black hair though it's brown, or dark blonde as the hairdresser tells me but I don't agree I think it's brown. It is straight because I dry it straight can get wavy when damp though. And it's always tied back in a ponytail to keep it out of my face when dealing with the monsters.

I do push the pushchair at super speeds,do you know me, lol, people always comment on how fast dh and I walk. One of the mums at the school says that when she sees dh and I walking with dd1 her feet don't touch the ground as we walk so fast, lol

Unfortunately I don't wear tight blue jeans, they are blue and one pair is tight but only because I still have a bit of weight to lose. the other pair are a bit baggy, don't quite understand that considering that they are both the same size and bought at the same time.

I'll have to go have a think about what you all look like.

dd1's immunisations record says that she was given DTP, no w or a in it, is this the same as DTwP and they just call it DTP for short? going to take dd2 to the clinic tomorrow to get weighed so will try to remember to ask about infanrix and see what they say.

Judd, I have to confess that I feed and water ds1 while ds2 is awake! I just end up like a headless chicken running in and out of the kitchen to go "there there" and give quick cuddles then run back in again to give stuff a stir!!! Casserole jar meals and pies are becoming increasingly popular as something you bung in quick then serve at the end

Saying that, ds1 is getting a lot better at waving teddies at ds2 to "entertain" him!

There was a US paed who referred to that time of the evening as the "arsenic hour" - can't remember who it was now, but I love the description - an hour so poisonous because the kids are tired and whiny, you're tired and losing patience AND trying to get a meal ready at the same time... I've always thought the title was very apt

BTW, good explaining Twiglett Although to be fair, the reason they give DTaP at preschool boosters is that wholecell pertissus has a lot worse side effects after the age of around 6 months old, which is why they use the (only slightly) less effective acellular pertissus in the booster.

Parp spots! what a brilliant idea but I am afraid you have me wrong too - I have short, very dark brown hair (dyed cos mousy brown irritates me!) and tend to dress like I lost my way on the route to Glastonbury - except it just looks silly now and like I'm trying to cling to my pre-baby thang so it has been gradually toning down for the last 10/11 months. I can look quite mumsy at times but still won't get rid of my Doc Marten sandals for love or money. Sadly the round face is exactly that and then some.

What exactly is a chambric shirt? sounds good to me! I also notice that you haven't disclosed your style! I am thinking short dark hair too with a penchant for Birkenstocks?.

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Its because you gave yourself away in those gorgeous photos of your family! both your little ones look like they have your deep brown eyes. Really lovely.

I am dead chuffed that DS's eyes are turning brown likes DP's - yay!

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Lordy. DS hasn't got just DP's eyes, his ability to snore is something else! they are both here in the living room rasping away like good uns.

The GF routine is starting to appeal as DS has been so cranky for the last two days and we haven't even started the jabs

perhaps I should wait a day or two?

I'm a bit confused and we may be talking cross porpoises

I suspect we're saying the same thing but to clarify just in case, what I meant was that I've been reading the medical literature which states that young babies don't react as badly to the DTwP as an older child (over 6 months) would. As the wP is seen as more effective at producing the immunity required, this is favoured at the primary immunisations.

After 6 months, the reaction to wP becomes a lot worse, so it is seen as a better risk/benefit balance to give the aP even though it is less effective at confering immunity. As the child has (hopefully) already got some immunity from the wP earlier in life then the aP should be adequate as a booster. So yes, older children react more.

Of course, then there was the time when they ran out of DTwP and DTaP was deemed perfectly adequate for primary immunisation then... (yes, I know you know that bit already, but adding it for sake of completeness).

To the rest of you I would like to quote my old chemistry teacher and apologise for "baffling you with waffle"