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GeorginaA · 18/05/2004 16:36

Have we got enough that I can officially open this thread yet?

How are your little ones doing prufrock, twiglett, snowbird?

I think mine is going down with jaundice. Dh isn't convinced, but it's either that or he's got a lovely tan sigh. I remember all the stress associated with that last time with ds1... hoping ds2 doesn't get it as badly.

He's still being a very sicky baby, about a couple of teaspoons a few hours after each feed (which is odd - I'd have thought if it was a reflux type thing it would happen immediately after the feed?) Midwife seems to think it'll settle after the milk comes in but if not then we'll look at some sort of baby gaviscon. Poor little mite, can't be comfortable for him... and we're sure getting through a lot of laundry!

Feel so bloody knackered at the moment, fed up of bits leaking and being sore, and it's only day 2! How long is it before you start feeling human again? Please tell me that it's sooner than the 2 week paternity leave dh gets!!

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Bozza · 12/07/2004 00:35

Hiya guys. After an awful day with DD I'm having quite a good evening, hence I'm here. Went for my post-natal checkup today and requested the mirena coil. Went to get an appt for fitting and the earliest they've got is DECEMBER. They're going to ring me if they can improve on this.

DD is becoming more alert and playful but is a bit out of sorts after coming back from hols. Was very sicky on Sunday(proper sick not just after a feed) and DS was sick on Monday so wonder if she had the same bug.

Linnet · 12/07/2004 01:44

You know Libb I really have to check myself before saying cradle cap as in my head I say cradle c**p, lol

Egypt if your dd's eyebrows are just peeling skin it's not cradle cap. If it's all sort of dry, crusty looking and yellow then it's cradle cap. Or at least that's what my dd's is like I couldn't believe how thick she had it on her head. When we went to see the dr he said that if it looks like it's flaking away then it's ok to help it along by picking at it, it lifts off very easily if it's ready, but only if it's ready not to force it. I can honestly say it's the most horrible thing I've ever had to do with her so far I really don't like doing it at all, plus she never keeps her head still for more than 5 seconds so it's a challenge. I put the aqueous cream on her eybrows at dinner time and it's looking a lot less dry now, will do more tomorrow then hopefully it should it all flake off in a day or two.

Sandi, How old is your other ds?

I've got my 6 week check up tomorrow and I'm planning on taking both dd's into work later in the day. Haven't taken dd2 in yet so there will be a lot of people there who haven't seen her yet. Have met various collegues while walking around town though so some have seen her and some haven't. Hoping it's not going to be to busy so I can have a bit of a chat as well.

Egypt · 12/07/2004 12:35

no, its not cradle c**p then

well, my sleep strategies didnt work last night! we had screams for 2 hours at bedtime. hey ho. but...she only fed at 1.30 and 5.30 so thats a big improvement

when she wakes in the morning, she could lie in her cot for hours smiling and gurgling. so sweet - shame it keeps me awake. this is from about 5.30 onwards. tomorrow dh says he's going to get up with her then so he can have some smily time. when he gets home from work its all downhill you see! that means i can lie in a bit.....nice

ooo, its another lovely day, so far. spent all day in the garden yesterday with dd in her chair in the lounge. could see her thru the patio doors, so not a neglectful mummy, although felt a bit! have since got a red chest today. but, going for the burn again - i luuurrrrrrve the sun. see, she can be a angel

hope you all had a good night.

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Sandi102 · 12/07/2004 13:23

thanks 4 the cradle cap tips..the HV said its much improved with the olive oil, but the doc handed over a tube of elidel cream, which i think is steriod and feeling a bit reluctant in using it on such a tiny face..what do you think?

i breastfed 4 3 weeks and this may sound so unnatural but i really hated it..it made me so weepy, i thought i was crap at it and felt so isolated..living in an Asian extended family, i was forever having to go upstairs to breastfeed..no tv, no radio just 4 walls starting back at me with baby who was forever feeding..in the end i wanted to feel comfortable and happy and switched to formula..tried expressing too..but couldn't get it out fast enough..

ds1 is 4.5 and starts reception in sept..just come back from his sports day..he won 2 races!..ds2 8 weeks 2day is grumpy after having his 1st injection yesterday..is it quite normal for him to feed less thank normal, cuz of grumpiness? i'm giving calpol at night only, 2.5ml..shud i give it in the day too?

i have my first social outing too..this sun..party..so i'll c how i get no..dreading it in a way, with the little one..so much noise and so many people..

georgina, how old is is ur ds2 and is he still a sicky baby?

Sandi102 · 12/07/2004 13:26

egypt..ds2 had the same routine as urs at night..until last week..i now put him down at 9.30 after 8pm feed..wakes at 2.30 for feed..plays 4 a bit and then sleeps..wakes up at 7.00am...which i think is great..

Sandi102 · 12/07/2004 13:27

and can u believe that ds1 started sleeping thro at 9 weeks..i was hoping ds2 was goin to beat that record..i can only hope!

Egypt · 12/07/2004 14:40

sandi, don't feel bad about the breast feeding. everyone is different. i can totally understand how you felt about feeling isolated though. for the first few days out of hospital, when we had most of the world at our house, i went to the bedroom to feed. she used to take ages and ages, plus no tv, just my mum and dh coming in and saying 'do you want anything?' and me unable to let go of her to sip my drink. its different now, she feeds q quickly, but there are times when i think that bottle would be easier.

i'm sure that your ds will feed less than normal if he is grumpy. what jab was it? meningitis? dd is on 28. dreading it as we are going away to see the whole family in norwich that w.e. i would be unsure about the use of the cream the doc gave too. if i were you i'd continue with the olive oil or aqueous cream if it appears to be getting better.

shall try putting dd down later tonight. i try to put her down after he last feed closest to 7pm you see, but last night it was more like 6pm. far too early praps. shall prob try and engineer it for later. dont want it to be 10 or 11 though. we'll see. there is always the GF way and give a bit to last through bathtime and then the rest before bed i spose. we'll see.

spots · 12/07/2004 15:01

This DD put on ten ounces this past week so there's porky for you...

Am trying to gear me & her up for learning how to keep a baby in a bouncy chair/cot/pram ... anywhere but in my arms. Am ashamed to admit that this is after annoying conversation with a GF mum who is coming to visit tomorrow...who said things like 'you really have GOT to put her down in the middle of the day, you've got to let her know who's boss'... etc. Got my dander up no end, but have to admit that the mere idea that it's possible to have both hands to eat lunch with has found a foothold. this bossiness is not at the heart of GF's book is it?

Put dd down asleep on sheepskin, and she slept on for ten mins before waking in a huff. I let her huff for about fifteen mins before picking her up, and she is still roaring in my arms. Not feeling over optimistic about our chances at this rate.

welcome to sandi...

kbaby · 12/07/2004 16:15

spots i know how you feel. im also fed up of doing eveything one handed, also because shes on my lap if the phone rings or the tvs too loud she jumps a mile and i have to get her back to sleep again via rocking. surely she cant be having quality sleep. No wonder she sleeps all day shes prob knackered. Ive mastered the art of one handed tea making though, which may be a skill i can use again does your dd sit on her own when shes awake.
at 5 weeks dd weighs 10lb 2 and has started smiling which is good and it males her crying spells a bit easier knowing that i get smiles occasionally.

Sandi102 · 12/07/2004 16:17

ds had the polio, diptheria, tet, whooping cough and hib..still grumpy and not feeding much..egypt let me know how it goes 2night..off to boots now..chat later

twiglett · 12/07/2004 16:19

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Sandi102 · 12/07/2004 16:21

lots of talk abt sleep..i'm reading healthy sleep habits, happy child, by weissbluth..anyon1 heard of it?..he says weeks 5 to 6 are the most fussiness, cry the most and are most wakeful..calling it the social period..weks 7-8 earlier bedtimes and longer night sleep periods develop..have 2 go now..

Sandi102 · 12/07/2004 16:22

thanks twiglet

GeorginaA · 12/07/2004 16:57

Sandi - he's 8 weeks old... still fairly sicky but nowhere near as bad as he was, but still has mega laundry days now and then! Can see the light at the end of the tunnel, though

Yes spots, GF is incredibly bossy - good stuff if you're prepared to read past that and it works for you, but I can see why she gets people's backs up.

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cat82 · 12/07/2004 19:28

Hi all

Kbaby and Spots, have you tried the pick up put down tecnique? I'm a firm beleiver in it, it seemed to work with DD very quickly. The trick, as far as I can see, is to pick up the minute they start getting whiney and put down the minute they start looking happy, repeating for as long as it takes. It gradual but I do think it works.

Sandi, DD is due for those vacines on the 13th and I'm nervous about them, let me know how DS is

Speaking of which, I know it's a long way off, but anyone got any opinions on the MMR jab?

Libb, hope you're okay hon, I too do the whole Cradle c**p thing!
xx

Sandi102 · 12/07/2004 20:10

ds is perking up a bit this evening..played for an hr and is now zonked..

cat82, make sure ur doc prescribes baby calpol..give a dose as soon as u get home and then again at night..ds was pretty sleepy and off feeds..hopefully will pick up 2moro..

MMR..hmmm??..well i think this govt would never want to harm our babies in anyway, and IF there was a link they would know and discontinue MMR..i heard seperate MMR jabs do more harm than good..and they'll cost..u can only get them done in a private clinic..i suppose we've got a choice..i'm pretty sure there r some threads in the health section on this..

cat82 · 12/07/2004 20:42

Thanks Sandi Hope DS feels better soon.
Still not sure tho, a freind of mine told me that they don't do it all in Japan, and recently they admitted that MMR was liable for a childs death and actualy paid compensation.

twiglett · 12/07/2004 21:35

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GeorginaA · 12/07/2004 22:05

Like twiglett I'm fighting for the thimerosal free dtp jabs (and think I've won... will let you know Monday gulp), but am happy enough with the MMR (I did do a hell of a lot of research on it though with ds1 before going ahead).

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GeorginaA · 12/07/2004 22:31

Head nurse has said yes, then I got a letter from the doctor a day later saying that she'll be taking expert advice (implying she was unhappy with it). Health visitor seems to think it's been smoothed over, but surgery really not happy with having any exceptions to the rule in case hoardes of parents suddenly want infanrix (so bloody what if they do?! it should be on offer as an alternative anyway).

Of course, ds2 has a stinking cold and is really quite poorly with a hacking cough, so all this could be a bit moot - chances are we'll have to delay the jabs for a few weeks anyway.

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libb · 13/07/2004 00:03

My ds is having a weird time, lots of screaming and gumming of hands/dribbling - still won't take the bottle even after his relaxing bath so will have to think hard about Friday, really want to go out but don't want him going hungry and DP feeling helpless at the same time about it all.

I will try him again during the day tomorrow when things are calmer but suggestions would be very welcome as to how DP can do it without me! (did the not being around thing by hiding upstairs but to no avail). Did wonder if a no1 avent teat could be causing probs - I can squirt in various directions at the same time so think quantity might be an issue?! please help someone . . .

He has been screaming and feasting at odd times for the last two days so maybe its a growth spurt perhaps? driving me nuts whatever!

I so don't want to let my friend down . . . . even though she would understand it would be pants not to come along. Really want time out for a change!

Cat82, next week? will call you to see if you can/are feeling better after your colds! xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Linnet · 13/07/2004 01:55

Hello all,

Sandi, I used the Aqueous cream last night on dd2's eyebrows and it really made a huge difference I thought. The skin was nice and soft and I was able to peel away the cradle cap. Still hate doing it though. Her face is looking so much better now. Put more on again tonight as there is still a little bit left on her eyebrows but I'm hoping that it should all be gone by the end of the week.

Took both dd's into work today. It was great dd2 tried to cry a couple of times but then changed her mind. She even gave some of the guys I work with smiles, but not any of the women,Hmm, lol My friend had her tea break while we were there and she held dd2 while I was with dd1 and she managed to get dd2 to bring up all her wind, I know where I'll be heading next time dd2 is windy, lol.

She was very windy today which isn't normally like her but she seems to have settled down to sleep ok so I'm hoping that she'll be ok through the night as well.

Sandi I breastfed for 5 weeks this time around. With dd1 I fed for longer but had problems this time around in that it was so much more painful, cracked and bleeding nipples, I was stressed dd2 was stressed, I spent most of the first 2 weeks in tears, so started off mixed feeding and now she's on bottles. Everyone is different when it comes to breastfeeding. We also had a lot of visitors the first week and I spent most of my time when they were here sitting in the bedroom feeding dd2, wasn't brave enough to feed in front of everyone. It was really boring, no tv, no books to read etc.

When it comes to sleeping dd2 has a bottle at 8pm and then goes to bed at around 9pm when she shows signs of being tired. I seem to have figured out what she needs much more easily this time around. I don't remember ever noticing signs of dd1 being tired. dd2 usually sleeps from 9pm through to 4am when she gets up has a bottle and then goes back to sleep until about 7 or 8 am. It works for me, she's nearly 7 weeks old now can't believe the time has gone so fast. I'll eventually get her into a routine of going to bed earlier so that once dd1 goes back to school in August she fits in with the school routine. I keep thinking that I should maybe introduce a bottle around about 11.30pm to see if that helps her sleep through to 6 or 7 am, but I don't want to wake her while she's sleeping so soundly, silly I know, Might try it next week I don't mind getting up at 4am at least it's starting to get light at that time so it's not too bad.

HV said that dd2 will get her jabs on the 28th. told dh he has to come with me so he can hold her. oh and had my check up today very exciting came away with a prescription for the pill and some hayfever medicine, but since it's done nothing but rain this week the hayfever has been fine, oh well at least I have the medicine for if it gets sunny again.

Libb your ds could be going through a growth spurt, dd2 wasn't lasting the 4 hours she had been at the beginning of the week and the HV said that by looking at her weight gain it was probably a growth spurt. Today she was a bit unsettled and seemed hungrier so I've started to increase the oz in the bottles, this child is going to eat me out of house and home if she continues this way, lol Keep trying with the bottles, I know it's hard but eventually he will get the idea. Can't advise on the Avent teat size though we're not using avent bottles this time, we're using Mothercare sterilising bottles, you just put the bottle in the microwave to sterilise don't need a sperate steriliser, they're brilliant wish they'd been available 1st time around.

Judd · 13/07/2004 02:03

Hi Libb,
Just quickly before I go to bed. we use Avent bottles and I've just put number 3 (medium flow) teats onto them for DS - he is just over 8 weeks. He is going through a bit of a strange phase at the moment, a book I have (yes, its Contented Little Baby!) suggests that there is a growth spurt AND a bit of neurological development going on at this point so we are just putting everything down to that!
He is also going a bit crazy when offered a bottle. Its almost like he is so mad for it that he can't get his gob round it fast enough, panics and cries like mad!! We just calm him right down and then try again, sometimes "shushing" all the way through the feed. His sister went through this stage as well, with her we used to get the suck on with a dummy first and then swiftly transfer bottle into mouth once she'd got the hang of sucking.
May be of no use to you whatever, but thought I would just mention it all, just in case one little thing could be of help.Night night !

Egypt · 13/07/2004 11:42

hi all
still 3 hours to get to sleep. went down at 7 and still awake at 10, spent every few minutes crying. this is after a sleep at 5-6. obviously she wasnt tired - cant be overtired surely? although by 10 obviously she was!
and me
still, she went from 10 to 2.50am, which was bet yet length between night feeds. linnet, i am in awe of you and your nightimes.
we all got woken this morning,at about 7am, by a shelf falling down above the computer. its usually dd that wakes us then. typical. i'm going back to bed when she falls asleep this morning. she slept for 4 hours yesterday morning and i was knackered by eve last night, so going to make for it now.
my dd has started getting very bossy over feeding too. used to gently open mouth wide and feed nicely, now head bangs, grunts and snorts and gulps like mad, breaks off, snorts and head bangs, gulps etc. very rarely does a feed make her fall asleep any more. she's going to take after her dad. im too placid
libb, i hope you get the feeding thing sorted. i found that dd would take a bottle easier in the day at first. first couple of eve feeds she wasnt interested and just cried. dont know why, maybe just coincidence. we used an avent 1 teat, but perhaps try a 2. my milk does squirt in various directions too !
going to clinic today for first time. be nice to meet other mums. 2 weeks ago dd was 9lb10, she is now 6 weeks old, what a porker...bet she is at least 10lb 9..thats my prediction

what a wet and windy day