October Babies - Part 2

[hercules]

It seems we have part 2 threads on other months so I thought I'd do one on October babies even though we only discovered mumsnet in Jan.

DD is doing well, breastfeeding only and holding out well for 3 more weeks before starting solids. DD sleeps well during the night although havent got a clue whether she feeds during the night as we never wake up properly to feed iyswim.
I'm going back to work for one week in July and then back properly in Sept.

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ooooooooo... hello, thought all the october babies people had stopped posting! I'm also holding out another 4 weeks until solids, determined to breastfeed exclusively for the full 6 months! although it is getting tempting to start dd on solids.... especially as the night feeding has increased again! but like you say, its not too bad when you share a bed and dont have to ake properley for it! she sleeps well otherwise and we've finally cracked the daytime nap thing too....oh the wonders of a buggy indoors!! I'm really enjoying dd, its mainly all smiles and giggles.... but she is sooooo big, growing out of her 6-9month clothes and shes exactly 5 months today! I'm decorating her room, as we've just moved house... all girly pink! how is everyone else doing?????????????

Thought I'd bump this again. Hello Spod!

Hi Hercules/Spod...Goodness Spod - growing out of her 6-9 months clothes already! She must be a big girl. That's obviously good milk you've got there.

My dd was born on October 12th and was exclusively bf until two weeks ago when I couldn't resist seeing how she took to solids. I also felt that maybe she needed them after she started waking at three and five in the morning after ten blissful days of 7-7. I didn't know what had hit me and thought perhaps she was hungry so went for it.

Since giving her food, I haven't looked back to be honest - she absolutely relished every mouthful and looks so cute when she's feeding. Two days after she started eating my dh put a spoon my way to ask me to taste a bolognase he was cooking and my dd opened her mouth wide, clearly thinking the food was for her! She has relished every fruit and veg we've put her way. (Mind you, they all taste the same as far as I can tell- am using those baby food jars)

Regarding sleeping - she refused to wake for the midnight feed from about week seven (Howled and howled - was so cross to be woken) so we dropped it and since then she has gone through periods of sleeping through the night. But at the moment she goes to bed at seven and wakes for her first feed at about five the next morning. She sometimes wakes up needing a cuddle at three but we don't feed her until five.

What I have learnt though is that could all change at any minute and regularly does. She's been in her own room for a while though so unlike you two I have to trek to her room and can never get back to sleep - perhaps I should have tried co-sleeping. Motherhood has turned me into a raging insomniac!

oooooooooooooooooooooooh i would love for my dd to sleep like that. she went through a time when she went for 8 hours befre neding a feed but that didnt last long!!!. Now shes in bed by 8-9pm, dream feed her at 11.30ish and she wakes for feed at 4.30 ish and again before 7! this has only been the last couple of weeks... she does seem hungry too so i know its not waking for comfort. i'm ure i have enough milk for her but she does seem to drain me... i never feel 'full' of milk like i used to.... maybe solids is needed... i want to hold on until 6 months though... so determined... only another 3.5 weeks...... and her teeth seem to be to be taking ages.... she has sore gums, dribble, chewing, etc for ages now. poor thing. i'm off for a hot bath before next feed (hopefully) One downside to co-sleeping is that you can be punched, slapped, pinched and kicked awake in the morning, even if you turn over and hide in the duvet.... he still finds me..... zzzzzzz

SHE still finds me, i have a daughter... tiredness... i was so tired today that i almost posted my nan's card in a red dog-poo bin rather than the post box...... off to bed.

Hey spod - teach me to be smug! I had a truly horrific night last night after returning from a weekend at my mums. While at my mums, my dd woke at three and wanted feeding - probably for comfort as it was a new environment - so I obliged. (Didn't want my mums husband and six year old adopted daughter to be woken by crying) But because she wasn't very cosy in my mum's room ( It was a bit cold) I also took the ( I now realise disastrous) decision to go in with her from three until she woke again at 6.30. Why disastrous? Well because last night she woke up at three and we tried not to feed her as we didn't want to set a new precedent. She howled for half an hour so I then gave in. But she still wouldn't settle - in fact got steadily more hysterical. (This is a baby who has happily slept in her own cot from four weeks!)

My dh is really adamant that he doesn't want to co-sleep so we waited ten minutes each time, put her down and then waited again. She managed to cry for THREE AND A HALF HOURS! She won in the end too because I felt by that time she needed another feed and fell asleep while doing it. Hence she woke at eight thirty with me.

All I can think is that she'd got used to the idea of waking up alongside me and decided this is how she wants it from now on. My dh has a big new job today and left looking like a zombie. I on the other hand am trying to deal with a grumpy and over tired baby while feeling grumpy and over tired myself. I lost it this morning while on the phone to my mum... put screaming dd down, left the room and had
a cry myself... She's sleeping it off now and I'm consoling myself by hopefully making you feel better about your own daughters sleeping habits

Sorry - this whole post seems to be in brackets! It would have been quicker to have put a bracket at the front and one at the end......

Hey spod - teach me to be smug! I had a truly horrific night last night after returning from a weekend at my mums. While at my mums, my dd woke at three and wanted feeding - probably for comfort as it was a new environment - so I obliged. (Didn't want my mums husband and six year old adopted daughter to be woken by crying) But because she wasn't very cosy in my mum's room ( It was a bit cold) I also took the ( I now realise disastrous) decision to go in with her from three until she woke again at 6.30. Why disastrous? Well because last night she woke up at three and we tried not to feed her as we didn't want to set a new precedent. She howled for half an hour so I then gave in. But she still wouldn't settle - in fact got steadily more hysterical. (This is a baby who has happily slept in her own cot from four weeks!)

My dh is really adamant that he doesn't want to co-sleep so we waited ten minutes each time, put her down and then waited again. She managed to cry for THREE AND A HALF HOURS! She won in the end too because I felt by that time she needed another feed and fell asleep while doing it. Hence she woke at eight thirty with me.

All I can think is that she'd got used to the idea of waking up alongside me and decided this is how she wants it from now on. My dh has a big new job today and left looking like a zombie. I on the other hand am trying to deal with a grumpy and over tired baby while feeling grumpy and over tired myself. I lost it this morning while on the phone to my mum... put screaming dd down, left the room and had
a cry myself... She's sleeping it off now and I'm consoling myself by hopefully making you feel better about your own daughters sleeping habits

oh dear! dont worry, she'll settle back, i'm sure it was just the new environment... our dd does the same if we go away, takes about a week to settle again. i often put dd down and go out of the room..... sometimes the crying is too irritating. bad days are awful arent they. mine was yesterday.... took dd round to see an eldery relative, who squeels at dd, everytime it akes her cry... she doesnt back off... she then continues with ooooooooh why is she crying (really loudly, cos shes deaf) and then repeately tells me to give her some milk from the fridge 'because she is thirsty' (shes 22 weeks) and gives me a running commentary when i breastfeed her... and STARES whilst i feed, realy stares and generally goes on at me when i put dd in pram and walk her around outside ... ' its too old, the baby doesnt like it, bring her in....' on and on and on.... and then as i leave i rip a brand new pair of trousers on her sodding rose bush............ ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
glad i got that off my chest. but bad days are BAD and feel worse when we're soooooooooooo tired... chin up ragtaggle....

ROFL at that, Spod. I know the type exactly. Why do people insist on telling you what's bothering your babies when surely you know them better than anyone?

My night for the record was much better last night. She slept until four, fed and then went into her own bed until seven. Probably because she was too knackered to argue after giving me grief all day! Still, hopefully that's that crisis over until the next time we dare to go visiting....

I'm going to start a new thread calling all other October mothers because I think this one has got lost...See you there?

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we had a bad night.... gave in at 10pm and simply got into bed with dd and went to sleep with her. i suppose our little darlings are allowed some clingy nights.... i wish i understood what makes her suddenly clingy and didnt just shout at her (and then feel instantly guilty) - i know she dont do it on purpose! She's regressing with her daytime naps too.... can only manage 40 mins at a time....in the pram, never her cot, uness out walking and she will stay asleep much longer. Am really tempted to start solids to see if this settles her but i really wana wait another three weeks. now then....wheres my magic wand?

Do you mind me asking why you are so desperate to wait three weeks? Is it because she'll be six months then and this is what the WHO recommends?

Because if it is it's my understanding is that this is just a guideline, not a stick to beat ourselves with. If your dd is growing out of 6-9 month clothes I guess she's pretty big so is it possible she's ready to eat? You know best I'm sure - I really don't want to interfere. I'm just curious as to why you are waiting three weeks.

I'm waiting Ragtaggle for several reasons.
Weaned ds at 4 months and had allergies.
Gut not ready yet.
Enough iron to last until around 6 months.
Baby still got chocking reflex with tongue.
Carrots have less calories than breast milk.
Breastmilk is a complete food.
So glad not to be faffing around with purees for 2 months.
A bf counsellor told me that babies are designed to be on solids from 6 months as can sit for them and dont have choking reflex.
Imo no reason to give earlier.

Why didnt you wait?

those are exactly my reasons. i know that i have enough milk for dd and i know that waiting till six mnths is best for all the reasons hercules gives. tbh, i feel that if i start solids now, rather than waiting a mere three more weeks then i have given in for my own convenience - ie to try and get her to sleep. deep down i feel it is not hunger but teething that is making her wake, as i often offer her milk and she turns it down. instead i would prefer a miracle cure for teething!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi, I'm still around but baby hates the sound of keyboard so it's hard to post!
She's a yummy angel during the day, and I confess started solids a few weeks ago for a number of reasons. As spod said, solids do not make a baby sleep better - in fact, with windy/stressed tummies they can sleep worse.
Dd went for a while doing a 6 hour gap then 2 hourly at night, then moved to 2 hourly all night, and apart from one nightmare night when she fed 6 times between midnight and 6am, she is now slowly increasing the gap again. Last night she fed 7pm,11pm,3am,5am - the best night for ages
I just count my blessings that she's so easy most of the day and co-sleep a lot at night (although she will self-settle in her cot if I put her in)

ok, now i really don't know whats going on.... she's really not her usual self at all... for the third night running she slept in with me, and I have just had to feed her to sleep for an hour just to get her to have a nap....something she normally does with little trouble in her pram at this time of day... she is being quite clingy and needing extra comforting... all normal i know.... i'm guessing that its her teeth bothering her but as a first timer i'm not 100% convinced. and she really does seem to have forgotten how to nap.... r is it just the teeth pain stopping her from dropping off....poor love.... I'm shattered! how are you all?

Hi.. our dd is 5months on monday. She just scraps into october babies born 29th Oct.
Fully bf her... but like everyones baby she is waking more than she used to... and the lungs are bigger so she has got better at shouting for her meals.

I think Spod that your dd is doing what ours has done abit of... waking lots.. extra clingy. She has done 3 nights in the last month of waking every 2 hours. Then she thinks HEY thats great and wants to do it all the time. As she is either in her little bed next to me or in bed.. I hold her hand she try to comfort without bf.

The last few nights she has decided to wake one hour after going to bed for another drink and then sleeps till 12.30ish then awake again at 4.00am which is the real hard one as she does not want to go back to sleep.

Have just started using a sling - graduation from the baby björn - and she loves it... we have great conversations.

oh dear another bad day here... dd very clingy, lots of tears and crying... am hoping it is the teeth or else i'm missing something! poor love does seem to be in pain though. will only feed and only nap if i cuddle up in bed with her. can babies this young miss people? my dh has been away for 3 weeks... maybe she is sick of the site of just me? and to top off my day i think the cat has fleas.... which is odd cos she hasnt been out since we moved 5 weeks ago... but i did visit an eldery aunt a few days ago who's dog clearly had fleas... looks like they came home with me. i'm not amused.

I am finding the sling great Spod it you are having to carry her lots... takes away alot of the weight and very reassuring for the bb.

Mine is a big long piece of material and you just wrap her and you in it. We feel like the Monkey family!!

We use one of those Papillion too.

whats it like? got a web link? only my dd is very large - heavy - 19lbs and the carrier i bought strains my neck with her in it.... on a brighter note... had a much better day... went to friends for lunch and think dd was just so delighted with the change of scenery... chatty, laughing and more relaxed... with full doses of calpol though!

here

We used ours with ds up until he was 2.5 years. You can bf whilst walking (very handy for supermarkets), and has loads of ways of carrying. There are lots of other companies as well, will get another link.

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that does look nice! i may get one to try out... altho' i have a really bad back so not sure