Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

Pudding another one who has slept baby on side and front. You prob know this but you can roll up a muzzie/blanket/small towel and use like a sausage along babyPud's back and/ or front to stop her rolling over off side. Also v snug and comforting. If you go down tummy sleeping route and want more reassurance you can get a sensor mat to put in crib which buzzes or something if baby stops breathing for a few secs - to rouse baby and/or alert patents.
For Gaviscon Infacol dropper genius idea. Or ask pharmacist for a syringe to administer (also good for Calpol etc)
Not all babies 'grow out of' such problems but T did between 4-5 mo and it transformed things.

x post Rosie about syringes. Also is head end you prop up. You can prop up. Advice usually prop up mattress but I prop crib stand or cot legs. You didn't need me, see

on dummies, a few years ago "cherry" dummies were The Thing. Not sure if they still are...? Interested in progress... Remember dummy might sooth butbhas dh wondered who will get up and put it back in every hour Jus' sayin'

T still sounds like he smokes 60 a day. I really hate it. There is something so much.more worrying about him because he is so good and sweet that I feel he would not make a drama if he was feeling v poorly despite being a male Also my throat super sore again and feel like my airways are inflamed and stamping on chest so.am.projecting all that on to him. I also feel that I don't seem to he producing good enough antibodies for him, as if I'm not looking after him well enough. I know I can't help it, but then you wonder could I do something different...? DH now muttering about cold symptoms. If he slumps into bed instead of giving me my day off on Sunday I might collapse and cry

Otherwise all happy at Scarecrow Towers. Took DD to nearest shopping town today and bought a special present to congratulate her on finally being potty trained (as opposed to mum being trained!) Pooing still hard for her but she is trying so hard. I learned a lot from my mistakes so hopefully will not get so stressed by T when the time comes....

Yes, syringe and aim the cheek, not in one go to prevent choking, slowly, let baby swallow and then another gentle push. And I do too prop the cot legs, with wooden cubes, please do not use books ! Except BW or GF :)
Poor you Scarecrow. Have you tried humidifier for T ? Or as Goat said, wet towel on radiator if it s on. Might be the case this week end....

Yes to syringe. Anything in a syringe BG thinks is dessert...

My dh will think I'm having an affair if i don't get off my bloody phone.
Night all.

Lol Goat

We used syringes a lot in the early days (with mixed success!). Always make sure you have a muslin draped around the neck as all baby medicines seem to be garishly coloured and very sticky, and there's nothing more disheartening than watching an angry baby spit goo all over layers of clean clothes!

Scarecrow hope you're both better soon - the throat thing is horrendous (there's even a MN thread devoted to it but please don't read as I did and convince yourself you'll never be better again!) Please try and take it easy - when I was ill with this same thing back earlier in the year I kept getting worse because I tried to carry on as normal. And great news re DD and her potty training

I'm off now to pack up boxes and bags - so, so much stuff to put into the car - not just the buffet, but toys, crockery, floor cushions, decorations and so on. Then I need to finally decide what I'm going to wear and do some ironing, then supervise DP's outfit preparation (he's just put his trousers in the washing machine so a risk they won't dry in time...)

The ceremony is at 12.30pm tomorrow - please think of me wobbling and weeping as I try to say the following:

Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth

And there's a book of wisdom for DD - I've asked guests to either write messages, pictures, etc for her on the day, or to do something in advance and we can stick it in to the book (and will also add photos of guests later). If anyone here has anything they want to add to the book then please send it to me - after all, you wonderful women have all been helping me raise her since those very early weeks of pregnancy.

Have a great weekend and I will be back when it's all over...

Eagleray That sounds wonderful. I hope you have a fabulous weekend.

ah, the old "clothes sabotage" routine. We are (thanks to Dh) v familiar with that....

trousers still in washing machine and DP getting irritated when I gently remind him to get the washing out and hung up before bed.

DD woke up around 11pm last night and 3 hours later, she was still screaming while I fed her, rocked her, shushed her and so on.

Tonight she woke up at the same time and DP went upstairs to deal. Five minutes later, he came back downstairs and said she had gone back to sleep.

I am and

DP is

eagle we all know you had laid the all important ground work

if T could stop coughing he and I might sleep and might be strong enough to make him better....

Good luck eagle. Stunning organisation - it's going to be really special. Thanks for posting the reading.

Xx

BBD, hope your ankle continues to get better, and enjoy the rest.
Rosie, Sweet Child of Mine was playing when my niece was born! And I love that Cat Stevens one. Nothing playing when DS was born (scary last minute dash to theatre) but he's always loved "Thank You For The Days" (either Kirsty Maccoll or The Kinks version). DD was born to "Merry Christmas Everyone" by Shakin' Stevens but I always sing "Fairytale Lullaby" by John Martyn to her and we had that played at her naming day, along with "Here Comes The Sun". Really hope your family dramas get resolved soon.
Pud, any luck with the Gavison?
Scarecrow, poor T, and poor you, sounds really horrible. But well done to your DD, you must be very proud of her! I remember DS struggling with the poo side of things for a while, I think it's pretty common. Apparently they don't like letting go of a part of themselves, IYKWIM!
Eagle, the naming ceremony sounds beautiful and your reading is lovely. Just don't do what I did, when I got through mine without blubbing, I punched the air at the end and said "YES!" .

Well, a chapter has closed at Knotty Towers - DS came out last night with "Mummy, is Father Christmas really real??" . I know he's 10 in a few months, but he's quite an innocent little soul. He's taken the truth very well and is now looking forward to joining in with perpetuating the myth for Rosa in the years to come. But I do feel a little sad...

scarecrow you poor things. Sound awful. Do you think it's worth getting a doc to listen to T's chest just to make sure he hasn't got a chest infection? Am hoping you had a peaceful end to the night. Any chance to have a couple of hours UN bed today - sounds as if you need recuperation time to, which is nigh on impossible with 2 young children.

eagle thinking of you today, hope it goes well. Those words were wonderful and got me blubbing this morning. Love the sound of that memory book too. In years to come, it will be so precious with all the wonderful words and photos.

A quiet weekend here and for once no parties! (that's for DD not me! Her social life is one to envy.....)

DS at last seems to be getting into the swing of weaning, but he was still up at 10, 12, 3, stirred at 4.30, then up,for day at 5.30. Would be awfully grateful if he could get the hang of sleeping through soon-ish....

Eagle that reading sounds really lovely, I'd be booing by the end. Yeah re dh settling baby eagle, I'd say he's found himself a new job as night time baby settler.
Please don't let silly stresses (dh wardrobe failure) spoil your special day. Let them float over and enjoy. ;)

Rosebud crying AGAIN GRRR

Good morning again.

knotty I don't think, as a youngest child, I ever thought father Xmas was real. You've done well to keep it going that long. I imagine its quite symbolic when they realise - must totally change their world view.

Having slight reverse naming day envy. I remember the food and weather was good at mine and the turnout surprised me (somewhere has had a baby! We never thought she'd pull that off! In a good way). But my mil in her only real mil moment insisted on taking the spare single bed instead of the sofa bed which messed up my fragile sleep so badly I was up at 2am making fruit salad. The rest of the day was like a hard drugs come down (I imagine).

knotty thanks for fb page.

scarecrow I second knicky - go to docs. Sorry I've not really been takin in your woes as this thread moves so fast!

Ditto anything else I've missed.

Dp up now - he will drag me off here so may as well go now gracefully.

in haste as "showering" while dh does dc breakfast....

Eagle thinking if you and your beautiful flower of joy and luck. We are with you in spirit.

We brought DD home from hospital.late on Christmas eve: next morning we sat downstairs.in a blur while she slept and dh put on John Lennon's Days Like These: I'd not heard it before and sat in tears if exhausted joy telling the alarmed new dad "I never realised I could be so happy". Given the journey through my depression and a horrible breakdown it was a really special moment and has always felt like the baptism of my new life It is definitely DD's song for me.

DH working.today (open day) so no rest. Was awake three hours firstly with T, then worrying about cough which seemed to be choking him, then wired by a mn thread I stumbled in...am an idiot! dh being v supportive though and generally appreciative and kind. So actually don't feel as bad as that sounds. I think I'm living for this Day In Bed tomorrow

I did take T to.docs last week but might go again on Mon if no improvement. Thank you ladies

making coffee and frothy milk this morning,

me "DD, would you like a frothy milk?"
DD: "I'd prefer tea, p'ease"

DS to egg he is frying just now: 'come on you little bugger.'

Scarecrow & somewhere at your DCs.

Bugger. .. come back to finish post and there's a pile more :)
Knotty. . they grow up :( how lovely he wants to keep it going for Rosa :) he must have good memories. Well done

Scarecrow i hope T gets better soon. .. don't know what to suggest :( I'm sure my Mil would recommend honey! His immune system is growing, it could have been a lotwworse if you hadn't given him the fresh stuff ;) poorly babies are hard work. Be kind to yourself. [ flowers]

Somewhere i love reading your posts. Dh is always moaning if I'm on my phone. ... evlen if he's on his!