Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

eagle Been there and it's utterly miserable looking after little ones whilst feeling dreadful yourself. Have you got help today? Crossing fingers you have. Get well soon eagle.

goat and lrm how was last night? Hoping for more good news re sleep.

Baby KK does well till 4ish every night, then it's co-sleeping in our bed. Generally I doze frI'm when he joins us in bed. I was saying to DH that I think I've been awake since 4 every day since the day he was born! It'd be lovely if we cab crack it, if only to stay up till 9pm instead of 8pm most nights......! That said, appreciate I'm having a far easier time than most so will be thankful for where I am.

DH birthday today. Off to a posh restaurant later. We're getting on far better and think it's a case of communication and generosity towards eaCh other. Still going strong with relate and they've been brilliant.

Eagle, sending you recovery vibes. As KK says, it's really vile having to look after a baby while feeling dreadful. Hope you feel much, much better soon.

KK, that's great to hear that Relate have been so helpful. And that sleeping isn't too horrendous, but I do sympathise with the 4am waking - another witching hour, I think!

I am cautiously optimistic re sleeping. Not too bad a night last night, woke at 2:30, then on and off from 4 (see?!). Is quite grizzly this morning and - er, ex

Argh, done it again! Sorry.
...ex

Really sorry. Have freezing cold and stiff hands

...explosive nappies, so we'll see what happens tonight. Lrm, how was your night?

Morning - dd slept til 8.45, which was a relief. Haven't been sick yet but took some sips of water in the night and felt pretty grim after. Tummy feels sore and I feel so weak. Nursery have said they could have her today (I had to go to parents eve there last night and was really struggling) so may put her in for the afternoon session.

At least it's nearly the weekend. Sorry for me, me, me post

eagle do it and don't feel guilty for doing it. Having the afternoon 'off' as it were will help enormously. When I've had to do this in the past, I've found that DD always had a far better time at nursery doing all sorts if fun activities rather than stay at home with an unwell mummy.
Please do feel better soon. Just rotten for you.

goat sounds,like baby g is doing better but what is it with this 4am business??

Hugs to eagle hope I feel better soon twinkle.
Sleep last night was chaos. He woke every hour. Daddy tried to settle him but no joy. I fed him 7 times. I feel like death. He had his mmr on Tuesday and was fine last two nights. Won't sleep on me so walking on the country lane. Sun is shining and fresh breeze may help my headache
Waves and hugs to all

Sorry you eagle not I

eagle and lrm so sorry you feel grim. Different reasons but still hard. goat and Knicky you both being heroically stoic - still poor sleep. Hugs and sleep dust and and to all

I'm in a hospital.corridor waiting for a glaucoma test - possible case thrown up by latest routine eye test. I feel in my bones I don't have it (optician said she was being cautious) and obviously my bones are a pretty failsafe method for assessing most health risks, but still feel.a bit sick (not in Eagle way I hope!) now I'm here surrounded by mostly older.people and feeling bored and missing my sweet children

T is so full of cold and coughing so horribly I could cry for him but between sneezes and coughing fits and occasional vomiting.from mucous he is still smiling. I swear I will fall apart with worry if he stops smiling one day. Somehow it makes him more vulnerable to his besotted mummy

waves

Scarecrow, I hope it will be negative, hugs to you.
And to Eagle and LRM.
Eagle, Knicky said, don't feel guilty, you have to look after yourself to be able to look after baby Eagle, and yes she will have fun at nursery !
Knicky, enjoy the posh dinner ! I wish my DH would consider counselling too, our communication is very bad atm. But he left today on business trip with How to behave so the children will, hope he will open it this time.
Goat, A wakes up around 6 since the winter time change ! We are always ready in the morning by 7.45 ! Week ends or not... Parenting books recommend we treat these early wakings as night time ones and try to get them to sleep again. Easier said than done. Never succeeded with DS.
Off the finish sorting clothes. Cooking is done. Laundry is drying. 3 more hours before pick up. Gosh, time flies... Single parenting until tomorrow evening !

Hello again - feeling a little better now - thanks for all your kind comments. Was v wobbly and nauseous earlier but have managed to get up and give DD her breakfast. Was wondering if I could actually survive this afternoon with her at home but I still feel quite weak and tired so will be good to rest up this afternoon and she can play with her friends. Was really hoping DP could get back home for 6pm to pick her up from nursery but he's terrible for not getting to work on time and so can't leave early to make the journey home. (he often doesn't get to work til 10am and so has to work late!). Besides, he said, I hadn't given him the impression I was particularly ill so he saw no urgency to get back here!

Scarecrow keeping my fingers crossed for you re the tests. Hope you are back home soon with your little ones.

LRM your night sounds hardcore - hope you get some rest soon

Goat glad you had a better(ish) night. I really don't know how you do it with going to work as well.

KK hope you have a lovely meal later - am so pleased that things are going well now with DH. The word 'generosity' really sticks out for me - it's so easy to withdraw that when you have the stress of family life.

Somewhere sounds like you had a hungry night! Is today a normal eating day?

BBD busy busy! Hope you get through the next two days on your own.

just done. Not got glaucoma. have thin optical nerve which could be a sign, but might have been born like that. Will be checked up every 6m to a year for a few years to keep an eye on it. So v good news. But I'm suddenly full of tears and want to sleep so so much. Need to put on brave face for family and children in particular so forgive me twittering here.

Yeah Scarecrow ! V good news indeed ! Xxxx

Not twittering scare. Not remotely. Just wonderful news 're eyes.

Eagle you poor love. Rest up whilst you can. Very glad you're feeling better. I do think with tummy things that mornings and evenings can make you feel rough. No idea why, maybe linked to tiredness? Anyway, this afternoon should give a little while to recuperate

Good news scarecrow hope you get to rest soon x

Typing this from a giant bathtub of hot water DD at nursery and I managed to eat some lunch. Feel v tired and fluey-achey, but so nice to be doing some decadent restorative soaking in the bath. I even have a mug of tea on the bath rack

I am soaked to the bones. DS finished school exactly when the rain was at its worst. My fancy coat is not water proof, for sure. But I was clever to put my bright pink wellies on though!!!!

Great news scarecrow, you must be so relieved!

Eagle The bath sounds lovely, hope it's helped.

Yesterday baby C and I went for an interview. It's only 3 days and before and after school hours, but it is just round the corner and is probably the least hours I can afford to work, which would be great. (I reckon 6 months is about right for a first interview!)

In the afternoon we went to the Makaton class at the children's centre which was good fun.

Our crisis this week is the washing machine going on strike and taking a load of laundry hostage. The man can't get out till Wednesday so I'm going to be spending tomorrow at the laundrette and probably buying some disposable nappies, although now he's bigger we can manage quite a few days with our stocks of washables.

Cycle, that is very good in terms of hours, no guilt ! When will you have an answer for the job ? When do you start ? You are super calm re washing machine strike after the plumber builder episode. i shuld take example from you and Scarecrow.

The decluttering is going on. I find stuff everywhere. I thought I was organised ! Maybe, before I had children :)

DS was so sweet tonight. He knows after his bedtime story once I am in my bedroom with A for the night feed, he is not allowed to leave his room. He did not but 25min after we kissed goodnight, I found him sleeping on the fllor, by his bed, sitting with his chin on his knees. So sweet....

Crying upstairs

bbd are you ok? A lot of crying going on. Is it just the dcs getting older or something more?

Sorry not to write more I'm lurking away

scare hope your eyes are ok. Glad it's not glaucoma. Always good to get extra screening.

eaglr oh no dear sickness so sorry. Well done dp for pulling it out of bag. You deserve it.

bbd I second knicky re effectiveness of relate/talking therapy. Not that she was saying that to you especially. I've had individual therapy and my dp is in it now. There is no way we would be as strong as we are without it. Before, we loved each other but were very fraught and conversations about the deep stuff got shipwrecked immediately on semantics. I think my dp was v selfish/terrified of my needs/not allowing us to be happy. Now communication is so much better and we try to enjoy our life together.

Anyway, thought for the day.

Thank f* that post wasn't lost.

Thank you Somewhere for sharing your experience on counselling. I M thinking indeed of going myself first. I so wish DH shows interest in making parenting easier for us.
Busy day today, will be back later. Have a lovely Sat everyone.

bbd one of the bonuses of going to relate is that I'm starting to believe that DH gets how hard parenting has been. I'm the one who has taken the brunt of the night feeds, my food going cold whilst dealing with DC, never really getting a second to myself. He now offers to take the kids out fairly regularly, and I truly feel we now have a team effort going on. Besides the obvious reason as to why we went to relate in the first place, it's been amazingly refreshing to discuss how one sided things have felt. It's definitely worth an enquiry at relate for maybe a session or two.

AFM had a lovely eve out last night. Of course baby KK chose this as the night to play up when we got home, so a late night ans multiple wake ups mean an early one tonight!

I won't be able to join you all for Xmas meet up. I'm due to go to work that day . In fact, have my return to work date confirmed as end of Feb. Feeling terribly sad about it. I'm not returning to a job I enjoy and will be applying for other things in the New year. Also know I'm going to miss baby KK hugely. Just wish I could get a win on the lottery now!

Oh no Knicky, can you do 11th then ? It would be sad not to have you at our first xmas meet up. I can do either dates.
I'm with you re resuming to work.

Oups, crying again, it is funny how these babies have a 5th sense re time. A always cries a bit 45 min after I fed her and put her down. Let me go before it becomes hysterical

Good night everyone

Hello apologise for absence. ... I've been staying at my parents and sorting out the house. ... it's been hell. I've been very poorly with my bloody teeth (2 abbess and a gum infection) eventually got df to take me to emergency dentist for antibiotics. Dm has been hard work (and I've just had to bite my painful swollen tongue over and over again! ) difficulties have included. ...im greedy I took a second bowl of porridge. . Wtf! She eats tiny meals (But loads of other rubbish on the quiet) so have been surviving on less than 1000 calories a day can only eat soft stuff as mouth so painful.

I'm lazy. .. been going to bed at8 with rosebud, up between 5.30/6 at house for 9.cleaned, painted, Fed baby cleaned painted fed baby cleaned painted fed baby, dealt with police, bailiffs, gas, electricity, every emaginabl catalogue company, plumbed in a new bathroom
Cleaned painted fed baby! Poor rosebud Has been stuck in a pram all week. I've found a whole new level of tired!
Lots of Muslim digs. .. she can't help herself. ..
Df has been amazing. He's 80next month but has worked so hard to get the house ready.
It's cost a fortune (over £1000) to get it ready for market but hopefully will be finished tomorrow (I have to go home tomorrow as rosebud has jabs Monday)
Dd2has been amazing. She's looked after rosebud and brought 2friends who have worked solidly every day doing whatever needed doing for very little money (£150 each) without them I'd never have got done.
The house now looks amazing every room repainted carpets cleaned and sparkling, new bathroom and new flooring in kitchen and bathroom. :) just hope it sells quickly for near asking price.