Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

once cot end is propped up and you have Ok as oil or similar in hot water, some other options.. Boots sell an electric vaporizer which burn little tablets with natural oils like eucalyptus, lavender and camphor y.sister says her best bit of kit ever and had lent to me for T), and you can snot suck yourself by putting your mouth over one nostril at a time and sucking. Or get dh to!!
babies under 6m (poss 12mo) usually get the snot etc but don't feel as wretched in terms of other symptoms so hopefully not so hard for her, bless her. Food night to you all.

I.sleep.T in cot or buggy, but otherwise could you use a travel cot in.living.room or buy a second hand pram??

Just a quick hello and say that I am not good at sewing, I knew tht but this is another reminder ! the pirate shirt lasted 20 minutes, not sure if the trousers will last longer, on internet now trying to buy a ready made costume.
Night everyone

I might suck at potty training, be inconsistent in my discipline and have succumbed to plastic tat and Disney princesses, but I have taught my 2yo to make a Nespresso, and ^that^ ladies is what matters

Awesome scarecrow!

DP has just put DD in her Jumperoo to 'tire her out'. Somebody please advise - good idea or not? I think there will be tears shortly...

Scarecrow
Eagle, tears from whom?...
Rosie I hope Rosebud is recovering from the not-very-pleasant rite of passage that is the first cold.
Last night was loads better. Didn't wake until 3. Ahem. We will draw a veil over the following three hours, but at least we got till 3. This is an improvement.
Sorry cant scroll back at the mo. wishing everyone a good night.

eagle is it possible she is OT anyway? Or napping too late in the day? If she sleeps after 3pm that is perhaps your problem?

scarecrow that's amazing and quite frankly beats potty training and the like every time must train my DD (too early for DS?!)
Rosie post Moses,basket we used a crib (creaky old family heirloom) and our bed.
Goat till 3 is definitely an improvement, will cross fingers 3 till 6 will improve too.

Baby KK has slept 11 till 5 for past 2 nights (albeit in our bed....) but also only having 3 thirty min naps. Surely he needs more??

Stressful day here. Lone parenting as DH at work. Am now,lying in a darkened room to recover!
eagle jumpereroo is a good idea, but think you're right may end in tired tears! But then maybe quick bedtime routine and off to sleep? Will keep my fingers crossed you have a peaceful night.

Also agree with scarecrow. DS always seems to go a bit hyper when OT. When's usual bedtime and,last nap?

Knicky for lone parenting at weekend.

Hmmmm, also wondering how soon can train up T. Watching his self feeding, probably a while ....

DH meanwhile has come a. lose second by teaching her "it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the century"

I have to admit we're not terribly good with routines but would probably do more about it if DD was waking more at night!

She generally has a nap in the morning and one in the afternoon, but they vary in timing and length a lot. On nursery day, she generally has a short nap quite early on, then once she's home she sleeps for most of the afternoon.

Today she had a 2 hour nap from around 10.45am til 12.45am but then stayed awake after that. Just after 5pm I said to DP that it was time for her dinner (I'm terrible for giving her dinner way too late) and he said she looked like she wanted a sleep, so after a bit of arguing, I let him rock her to sleep for a while. Then she had her dinner after 6pm. Then at 7, he's putting her in the jumperoo so that she can wind down for the evening

Scarecrow - I think you're right about being overtired - we definitely need to get her down for naps earlier in the day, and also be a bit more strict about mealtimes.

Anyway, she finally went to sleep just after 8pm which wasn't too bad (would like her to sleep at 7, but we're working on that). She insisted on going to bed face down so just been up to turn her onto her back (her face was totally buried in the mattress, which didn't look right!)

And after all that, we're going to bugger up her routine entirely by giving her jetlag and then wheeling her around restaurants in the evening in her pushchair!

Goat glad you've had some improvement - do you have to do collect 'samples' this week? Horrible that a 3am wake-up is an 'improvement' for you - sleep well tonight.

KK 11-5 sounds pretty good for your DS - I'm fairly sure we were getting similar stretches at that stage. No idea about the naps though - as you can see I'm not expert...

Noticed at bedtime that a new tooth has emerged! I guess the jumperoo session shook it out of her head

Apologies for brief post. DH been away all week til last night. Was at SIL til Thur am then BabyPud in crazy growth spurt and refused to be put down and fed for 7 hours a day waking every 90 mins overnight. Got further and further behind on the thread (hate iPhone app for busy thread)

Was supposed to have this evening 'off' managed 35 mins now he's cleaning fish tanks and I'm back with B. I had planned to jump on 'puter to catch up. Now can't.

So, love to you all. Eagle no worries re Tues. We can arrange another when you're back - have a great break.
Rosie/ anyone else - do you still want to meet on Tues?
I will catch up properly. Sorry all xx

Oh my how did it get to 22:00
Scarecrow both my girls made great coffee from a young age

Goat fx for another good night.

Eagle. .. no routines here either! !

Rosebud is still poorly and I'm sure it's her ears that are bothering her, she will only feed laying on the bed where there is no pressure on them :( if i try to feed/hold her in my arms she screams till her ear is not on my arm. Right Side worse than left. I have spent most of the day laying on the bed with her as it's the only place she is happy. Her head seems wobbly (like new born head) too. Dr for us again am. It has been lovely though spending all day just focusing on her needs. dh is still playing his stupid fifa game which is on course to causing an argument. At one point today he was rocking dd with his foot while she screamed in her chair so he had both hands free to play. He's never really played video games and we don't have a games console. He's got this on his bloody phone. ... i feel like I'm married to a 12year old.

Bbd how did the party go??

Ok so who's up for the SW meet on Tuesday? I will have to wait to see how dd is but we've been in nearly all weekend so could be going slightly crazy by Tuesday?

X post pud! Yes yes to meet up. How about mshed cafe 12 ish (they do great soup and roll lunch :)

Rosie poor baby - do you have infant ibuprofen? You can give with or instead of paracetamol. Ibuprofen would reduce swelling in ears etc if she's got. FX you, goat, Knicky....and anexbody else with sleep issoos

oh and dental work not going well :( dentist spent 45 minute appointment drilling and digging 1 tooth took mould for special filling, put temp filling in which fell out on sat morning and the tooth has broken so special filling now won't fit and I'll probably loose that tooth too. Have 3 possibly 4 that hhave to come out now as a result of last years car accident (I will never ever drive in London again) and will need a bridge or something until I'm back working and can afford implants. Thank god it's free for now as dentist said there is months of work to do.

Scarecrow i have a small pharmacy lol. I've gone with Àshton & Parsons infant power for now it seems to be working. Has anyone else tried them? They are herbal and are my forgotten cure all from many moons ago dd2 reminded me whenwe were there last week. She sstill had a box in the cupboard from dgd1 teething)
Highly recommend for just about anything (especially Teeth, tummy, ,and when you just don't know what's wrong but don't want to give calpol.

Just had 3 o'clock wake up... Fingers crossed...

Will lurch back to thread at better hour

how is it going goat?

Early start here too! Hope you got back to sleep goat / scarecrow.

Meh.

Meh.

goat that doesn't sound good.....a bad one?

eagle no routine so to speak here either. Loving the thought that your DP thought the jumperoo would help baby eagle to wind down....

rosie how's rosebud this morning? If it is her ears then that's absolutely rotten. Ear infections can make you feel incredibly yucky.

Baby KK has definitely knocked the middle of the night feed on the head, just need to get rid of the 11pm one now and encourage him to regularly sleep in till 6am...we're going out next Saturday night, the night when the clocks go back and I'm dreading a 4am start.......

Have a good day one and all x

Oh dear goat it has to improve soon, doesn't it?

Welcome notsoold I remember you from the pregnancy thread. Congratulations!

Rosie poor rosebud, baby camper is just getting over his first proper cold, it's rotten.

We've been at my cousin's just outside Bristol this weekend. Baby camper was very good on the train even though they were at his bed time. Feeding him on Paddington station was funny, he kept leaning backwards to see what was happening. Either the messed up routine, his 4 cousins or the glass of wine I had with lunch knocked him out as he slept till gone
five, fed in a dose and has only just woken up properly. He normally demands to get up at 7!