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CaptainNemo · 13/12/2011 16:25
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CaptainNemo ·
30/01/2012 21:06
Evening animals. Just settling down to watch our current Love film with DH - How to train your Dragon 
Am sure we shouldn't be watching U certificate (animated) films when it's just the 2 of us! I saw part of it with DD on the ferry to France in September and I quite fancied seeing the rest - saddo? moi?
Kat I'll do you the updated stats if you like. Don't think a list would work as not everyone is TTC/preggers. Hope everyone else doesn't mind, and doesn't object to what I'm about to say about them! BTW I was trying to remember your mn name, I think for a while you were Meeow and before that you were named after your cats, Something and Harry? Or have I got that totally wrong?
Ok, non-list type list:
Nemo 20 weeks pregnant with no 2, blue. EDD allegedly 12th june but I reckon more like 15th/16th.
Frazzle I'm guessing you know about from RL
Marbles is having a v stressful time waiting to see if she is pg with much wanted DC2 or if her body is playing tricks on her and she is actually waiting for (yet) another CP/MC 
. We're all very much hoping it's the former, while being ready with much vodka hand holding if it's the latter.
Impala's lovely daugter E is over 3 already 
, but Impala is ready for her to start catching up on the last 3 years of sleep sometime soon please... ATM she's nor planning on having any more DC.
MummyLtd is kept v busy by her 2 gorgeous boys and her blog (hence the name). I'm not aware of any plans for DC3 but perhaps she'll be along soon to put me straight on that one
Murray has a consultant's appointment tomorrow (and needs to take a v bag handbag along with her so we can all fit in it to provide moral support). She was expecting DC2 but very sadly discovered that her baby had died at her 20 week scan appointment in December and had to be induced We all wish there was more we could do to help but are massively impressed by how well she is doing 
Moomin and her 2 beautiful DCs are alive and well and living in Wales! Moomin has had a frankly shocking year, and deserves some sort of medal for the fact that she is still functioning. She has been extremely unwell but is hopefully now on the mend and has had a lot of grief to deal with as well. Her DP is now her DH but alll is not well though things are aamicable at the moment.
Turk, her DH and their beautiful twins are now living in Australia! And she's just told us they're going too TTC#3 which is EXTREMELY exciting news!
Buddha is also TTC for a sibling for her gorgeous E, while we nag her for symptoms like the demented supportive ladies we really are . She's another one who wouldn't mind a bit more sleep if there's any going...!
Is that everyone? I really hope people don't mind, just thought some of you might not particularly enjoy spelling out what's been happening of late. Feel free to come and write something crass and insensitive about me if I've offended anyone...
Gomurray I meant what I said, I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. I really hope you get the answers you need... I guess for me there would be 3 main topics. 1. the sex of your baby, 2. what happened and why, 3. whether it's likely to happen again in any subsequent pregnancy and if so what they can do to minimise the risks/what monitoring etc you'll be offered. That's obviously only the very briefest of lists, I'm sure the ladies on the mc threads will have come up with something more useful...
BTW re Birdsong I just meant that it was so bloomin traumatic watching it. I knew it would be, and yet... Still I watched it..... 
Impala have you had any further thoughts about the best way forward with your mum? I'm really sorry not to have had anything more useful to say yesterday...
Moomin glad you had a good time in London, but you're probably right, sounds llike a sure fire way to make an extremely complicated situation even more so... Maybe a good topic for daydreams for now though? You must have been v young when you 2 were together, how long did the relationship last?
Frazzle I haven't lived. I've never had a peanut butter chunky kit kat Though given how fat I now am I suppose I may as well start... Went to M&S for yet another bra measuring today, it seems I have gone from a 32B to a 36D and I'm only 20 weeks. Am afraid. Am VERY afraid. It's not the D bit I object to, it's the 36.... sob......
Right. That'll have to do for now. Love to all.
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CaptainNemo ·
30/01/2012 21:27
Buddha cross posted due to my MASSIVE post! Sadly no chance of me losing weight, despite the sickness. Am not acutally being sick, just feeling sick, but nowadays it's than hangover, must eat lots of crap type of sickness if that makes sense... Thanks for the sympathy following my shower trauma btw 
Maybe my bra measuring comments explain why they're getting in the way so much more than I'm used to?!?!?!? Oh dear. Am a MESS!! Please keep us informed with any more symptoms. Can see why you cried about having SIX!!
So did I mention I'm off on a spa day tomorrow? Can't bloomin wait!! Bought it for a friend of mine for her 40th so thought it only right I should go along to keep her company though the thought of appearing in public in swimwear without T to hide behind is extremely scary! One at a time please madam......
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NoMoreMarbles ·
30/01/2012 21:31
buddha good symptoms are you going to hold out until friday? im still waiting for the tests i ordered over a week ago so i still havent retested...symptoms still strong etc and i had an odd dream last night too i was lying in bed (in my dream) and had a weird feeling in by upper tummy, put my hand on my belly and i had a big baby bump with a wriggly baby in there!! very vivid and i felt rather when i woke up. its all i want...
nemo hope the MS eases soon and you get to start to enjoy your preg
to everyone else
Impala ·
30/01/2012 21:42
Thanks for all your lovely messages ladies, it really does help to know that I'm not alone in this situation, I'm just sorry to read that my mother is not the only one when it comes to not being involved with grand-children. Makes me very I do wonder why it is? A whole host of complex reasons I guess. Unfortunately MIL is now 85, lives over an hour away and also still has SIL at home with her as she has Down's so she really can't help out at all. And FIL died 5 years ago Ironically I think if MIL were younger and lived closer then she would be more involved than my mum. I guess I'm just going to have to accept that this is how things are, enjoy the time she can give to E and stop wishing things were different. I thought I was managing to do this but occasionally it does all get to me again. I do hope that if and when E has children I will be able to help out as much as she needs me to. Although like Buddha I'm 40 this year too so I could be in my mid-70s by then! Do you have any plans for your 40th btw Buddha? I'm thinking of just sloping off somewhere with DH either just the two of us (assuming mum is not too busy to look after E ) or with E as well. Don't really fancy a big party.
Symptoms sound promising Buddha, fingers crossed for you!
Kat Of course I remember you! Congratulations on your lovely news but sorry to hear it was difficult this time around. Hope the rest of the pg is now all plain sailing to make up for it. How is your little cat doing btw? I remember your posts on FB when he was really ill not so long back, hope he's fit and well again.
Frazzle Sorry you didn't get to go running tonight (saw your post on FB!). Stay away from that chocolate! Sorry Jack is giving you a hard time at the moment too. A friend of mine has a boy whose behaviour was very similar to what you describe when he was the same age. I think unfortunately it is just a phase, this boy is now 4 and is much calmer. With your work I don't suppose you can really avoid playgroups etc. can you? I was going to suggest more physical activities where he can burn off some energy but not sure if that's possible. Is he at pre-school? If so, how does he behave there? It must be really hard for you at times, fingers crossed this phase passes quickly.
Moomin Lovely to "see" you, sounds as though you had a lovely weekend in London I would just echo what the lovely ladies here have said, just take things one step at a time and see how things develop. If the reason for your break-up wasn't anything major then no reason why it couldn't work. I'm reading "One Day" atm (haven't finished it yet so nobody spoil it please!) and the couple in the book have just got together after years apart and seeing/being married to other people. Oh and they are "best friends" too Why not in real life??
Sorry to hear about your mum not exactly being hands on either In particular I'm that she didn't look after L and J on your wedding night. It sounds as though you have some wonderful friends though
Nemo Thanks for sharing your story about your mum, I was amazed that she doesn't help out when she lives next door, quite unbelievable! You'll cope just fine with another baby, don't worry. You've done a great job with T by the sound of it And enjoy the spa day tomorrow btw
GoMurray will be thinking of you tomorrow
Marbles Hope you find out one way or another very soon, must be dreadful being in limbo like that.
I'm pleased I checked for updates to the thread before posting as I saw Nemo had provided useful background information for each of us rather than a list. I was going to add myself and E being 3.2 years going on 13 but you've heard all about that
Must go, "One Day" is calling, want to find out how it all ends!
BuddhaBelly ·
30/01/2012 21:44
Nemo sorry I just at your incident! at your new size I bet dh likes them though Enjoy your spa day tomorrow and just think even 5 months pg you'll look slimmer than me in a swimming costume!
Marbles I'm going to really really try not to test early so no tempting me I don't think we've been lucky enough this time despite preseed x
BuddhaBelly ·
30/01/2012 21:56
Impala cross posts we're very busy in here tonight! No plans for my 40th definately don't want a party, it's my dh's 30th so I'd rather mine slipped by unnoticed and hopefully I'll be pg!! Although we're going to the isle of wight the week before which will be lovely Where are you hoping to go with dh?
NoMoreMarbles ·
30/01/2012 22:14
bhudda thanks yours too its my 30th this year so im hoping it will be the year of the big birthdays and big bellies for us both although my belly is sizeable without a baby in there
impala sorry i didn't say anything about the mum situation i meant to but as my brain is mush symptom it slipped my mind! my mum is similar although she will have S overnight from time to time. she wont take her out and moans ALOT as if she is being burdened by her granddaughter my dad dotes on S and i think that may be the only reason my mum reluctantly agrees to babysit we have a weird relationship and she is VERY skittish and overbearing on S- and therefore very judge-y with me- doesn't agree with alot of my parenting choices (i do naughty step rather than smacking and remove toys/privileges rather than smacking etc mum was very slap-happy when i was growing up "didn't do me any harm" apparantly- showed me what not to do i suppose) could be worse most definitely but it could also be a hell of a lot better. so not much by way of advice but i suppose i wanted to add to those who feel your pain to one degree or another.
anywho...
BuddhaBelly ·
30/01/2012 22:22
Marbles I could have written that exact same post re smacking etc! My mum gave me the same line of "it didn't hurt you" it's the only thing we've fallen out over as I do time out too, my problem is that it doesn't seem to be working which doesn't help my argument with her!!
CaptainNemo ·
30/01/2012 23:28
Busiest night in here since sometime in 2008 I reckon love it!!
Impala One Day was our book club book in September. Top tip: don't finish it!! Anyone else read it?
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Impala ·
31/01/2012 08:26
Budddha Don't know about thrush, possibly? Try google perhaps?
Nemo Wish I'd seen your post before rushing off back to "One Day", too late now! Really didn't expect that twist E woke up at 11pm so still haven't finished it! Tonight I hope. Has anyone else read it? Really recommend it.
Marbles Thanks for your comments re mums, sorry yours isn't quite as supportive as you would like. I catch myself wondering what my dad would have been like with E and whether my parents would have been more hands on. But what ifs are futile really Hope your laptop is fixed!
Kat So pleased Harry made a full recovery bless him
Buddha It must be so hard if your mum disagrees with something you're doing with E. That is one advantage with my mum, she doesn't try to impose her views at all and just lets me get on with it with E. She has also been a good sounding board at times (especially with the sleep issues). Time out doesn't really work with E either - we call it going to the corner and she just thinks it's funny and refuses to stay, you have to physically restrain her. We have success with counting to 3 when we want her to do something, i.e. "come and brush your teeth otherwise there will be no stories before bed, 1,2,3." On very rare occasions I have put her in her room if she's being a real nightmare but I try to avoid that. Distraction and incentives/reward charts seem to work better for her.
Have a good day all - weather is awful here today so off to an indoor play area this morning and E has a trampolining class this pm, nothing like introducing her to the sport early when she has a coach as a mum
Supergiggle ·
31/01/2012 11:31
Turk here, new name
On phone and not really sure what I am doing here, lovely to see so much activity on the thread!
Gomurray - thinking of you today xxx
Marbles Hope all is ok with you and you are resting up
Impala Have no real advice to offer re mam troubles. My MIL tends to be very hands off when it comes to the twins (well at least when we lived in the same country! she has a good excuse now) But can remember how horrible it was having to practically make appointments for twins to see their granny
Nemo So glad scan went well for you
Kat Great to see you Congrats on the bump
Bhudda How is the 2ww coming along? Symptoms !?!
Moomin Very 
of your weekend away
Frazzle How are you doing all this running! Seriously need some tips here haha
Am sure have forgotten half of the things I wanted to post as can't scroll back to see previous messages, was one of those days with the twins today, they were a right handful, fighting all day! Got Implant out today, arm is sore so am heading to bed with a good book - and will definitely catch up properly tomorrow
NoMoreMarbles ·
31/01/2012 11:56
like the new name superG it suits you
good luck today murray
hope everyone else is ok
gomurray ·
31/01/2012 13:12
Wow ladies - what a lot of chat !
Congrats on being PG Kat feel free to share your journey to 22 weeks - unless you'd rather nto for any reason of course.
Buddha exciiiintg ! Love a good 2ww symptom spot !!
Nemo I have One Day on my kndle for my next read - should I bother.. crappy ending ?
Marbles got laptop fixed ?
Turk !! What are you doing ?!! New names are just going to confuse me even more !!! Like it though
Thank you all so much for your good wishes - my mobile has been going mad with people wishing me luck all morning, am so lucky that so many people care so much. I will be holding your virtual hands in there... am quite nervous now. All I am hoping is that the result is not something that is likely to repeat so that we can proceed with TTC (once my stupid body decides to start working again). Off to collect E from nursery soon - will report back as soon as I can.
frazzlerock ·
31/01/2012 13:57
Wow! Where the blazes do I start?
Buddha and Marbles Preg dreams from both of you....(!!)
Nemo I hope your spa day is going amazingly! Let us know what treatments you've had. Not jealous.
Murray Thinking of you.... I hope it goes as well as can be expected. xx
Impala One Day is a really nice read isn't it? In fact, I even enjoyed the film, even though I'd read the book first. I still jumped at the "twist" mind!
I've just bought Pigeon English although struggling to read anything at the moment with my mushed up mind... . I'm hoping to get back to normal again soon as I really want to read it! The weather's bad here too, it snowed when we left playgroup... And no, Jack isn't at pre school or anything. Wish I could afford to send him! He turns three in March so hoping to take advantage of the 15 hours a week (or whatever it is) and put him in a nursery. He doesn't start school until September! He's just so ready to go. I struggle to tear him away when I drop Charlie off
Actually, maybe I should get Jack into trampolining! That'd burn off some energy
Supergiggle Cute name!
Kat Gimme a ping if you fancy Collywobbles on Fri. I can't bare it when there's no one to talk to at that one. Well, there's usually one or two but those 'one or two' bore me senseless (Mean, but oh so true). If you don't go I might head over to see my friend and her little baby twinnies. Saw them today and gave one his feed. They're just so scrummy!
So, I'm going to be chatting to the "other woman" on the phone tonight! Decided we need a good Spam bashing session... I'm quite tempted to discuss a bit of revenge.... Any ideas? I'd still love love love to destroy his vinyl collection. It's all in storage until he buys a house though.
Hmmm... Plotting is making me feel much better I'm not normally a revenge type of person, I just don't think he should keep getting away with it. It's for the greater good!
Katturnerchildcare ·
31/01/2012 15:03
frazzle we'll come on fri morning hon, I want to hear about you revenge plan!!!? What's that all about?
Murray I hope you get the answers you need and you can get back on track I was so sorry to hear about your ordeal I can't imagine the pain :(
Buddha I think yes to the thrush
marbles hope you're well?
giggle keep those photos coming on fb I love seeing how you're getting on :)
moomin sorry to hear you've had a tough time, I really hope things start to look up soon
impala my mil is fantastic with I although a bit too needy if a week goes by without seeing her we get 'drop by' visits where she'd call the house from outside to check were in then invite herself in! Was a massive issue for us when we were TTC! My mum on the other hand has her favourite grandchild and as I is a bit 'lively' she watches her from a far
I'll briefly fill in my last year; started TTC in early May then in the 25th was rushed to hospital and in to surgery with suspected ruptured appendix which turned out to be PID. My entire left tube and ovary were seeing puss and had to be cleaned out, I was told that I was most likely only working on one side from then on, but we kept trying, manic charting and obsessing and by an absolute miracle in Sept I got a BFP, more amazingly I was informed the egg had traveled from my damaged side as well! I don't know or care how it happened but we are eternally grateful to whatever force made our dream come true and I cherish every day I wake up pg :) I know how lucky I am and will not be tempting ectopic etc again by trying for a DC3 I'm more than happy witty my Lott.
gomurray ·
31/01/2012 17:47
Wowee Kat what a traumatic start but so pleased for you that it all worked out and you are happily getting nice and fat (in the best possible way of course !)
frazzle you make me laugh with your crazy chat , love that you are taking comfort from plotting revenge !
Well back from appointment and the reason for death was the cord got in a tangle. We were told after delivery that cord had been wrapped around baby but unlikely to be reason for death, but post-mortem has proved otherwise. I have no idea whether cord was wrapped round baby or just tangled round itself and cut off blood supply but to be honest it doesn't make any difference. Net result is that all was ok with baby (which makes it extra sad in a way as I guess if I thought that baby was poorly I could rationalise that it was for the best iykwim). However, on the flip side it means that there is no reason why any future PG should not be absolutely fine . Consultant will do my 20 wk scan next time (and I'm sure there will be a next time - positive thinking !) as well as additional scans at 24, 28 and 32 weeks. He said there is no reason to believe it should happen again but I am slightly more at risk that it could (1% chance). Given that my EMCS was due to E having cord wrapped around his neck he said they'd keep a close eye on me but TBH there was nothing they could have done at such an early stage anyway. If it looks like happening again in future they would consider early delivery after 26 weeks. He said the cord was significantly longer than average. He also said that if AF doesn't appear within 8 weeks to go to GP and they'd run tests - he reckons cycle will return in its own good time but am happy that he didn't just tell me to come back in 6 months (given my inability to be patient !) Also found out that baby was a boy which was a huge relief. I had always thought boy until he died and I then thought girl - crazy mind told me maybe my body couldn't carry a girl. I had already started to worry that if this baby had been a girl and then I went on to have a boy in future I'd always look at girls and wonder what mine would be like... doea that make sense ?... The fact that it was a boy is a relief as I have one already and although it made me sad to think that E would have LOVED a little brother it came as a huge relief to me to know that I won't need to torture myself about the girl I'd missed out on. Don't get me wrong, I'll always be sad about the wee boy I never got to know but somehow it is less painful. No idea if that makes sense !!! Ultimately the whole outcome has been the best possible outcome, although sad too. Thank you all so much for your support, it has meant a lot to me. Now onwards and upwards - Marbles if you could have a wee 'ovulation dream' for me and we can get my cycles back on track and start some serious TTC .
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NoMoreMarbles ·
31/01/2012 18:43
murray oh for your boy (DS2) I am glad you have been given a "good" version of the expected news but all the same. I'm glad it won't affect future chances and il see what I can do about Ov dreams
Impala ·
31/01/2012 21:23
Gomurray so about what happened to your DS2 Until Nemo's list yesterday I had no idea it had happened so late It's good that you're viewing it as "one of those things", even though that doesn't really make it easier. And at least you'll be closely monitored during your next pregnancy and under consultant care. It sounds as though today was the best possible outcome under the circumstances even though very very Here's hoping your cycles return to normal asap and you can start TTC in earnest And on a totally different subject, I'd definitely recommend reading "One Day" - not a crappy ending at all (althought I still have a few pages still to read so I may be wrong!) there's just a completely unexpected twist towards the end.
Frazzle Is it worth seeing the film then? If you can't concentrate on anything too weighty at the moment I'd recommend "The pile of stuff at the bottom of the stairs" if you haven't already read it. Hilarious! Hope the conversation with the "other woman" went OK tonight, look forward to hearing all about the revenge plans Would definitely recommend getting Jack into trampolining if possible, or gymnastics. We have a great gym club near us which runs toddler gym classes every day, perfect for burning off energy
Kat Sorry to hear about the trauma before your pregnancy, really pleased everything has worked out for you at your mum making it obvious she has a favourite grand-child and not really being involved with I, what is it with mothers??
Supergiggle Love the new name
Hope everyone else is OK and that Nemo in particular enjoyed her spa day
BuddhaBelly ·
31/01/2012 21:32
GoMurray I totally get why it was easier to hear that your little one was another boy, it must have been so hard to listen to them telling you what actually happened but I hope it gives you some closure. Good news on the ttc front and very proactive of consultant with the advice about af/ov let's just hope you won't need it and your cycles can get themselves sorted very quickly as we know you have no patience
Kat sorry to hear of the troubles you had last year thank goodness it has a happy ending
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