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CaptainNemo · 13/12/2011 16:25

Come on over animals, I think we'll be very comfy here Xmas Smile

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Turkelton · 26/01/2012 06:53

G'day everyone!

Great to see so many of us back on here, big waves to Frazzle Smile

Nemo Ouch! can well imagine the fright you must have gotten too

Marbles So sorry this is happening to you again Sad Hope you are ok xxx

Budda How is the ttc going?

Dh and I have decided we are going to go again Shock and start ttc again. Going in to docs tomorrow to get my implant contraception thingy removed from my arm - we must be mad!

Hello to everyone else, its Australia day here today so we are off out to a bbq Smile will catch up properly tomorrow

frazzlerock · 26/01/2012 13:51

Afternoon, yep I'm back again! Just thought I'd keep you all updated on my mundane life...

Had a mega dream I was back in Bristol with Sam Spamhead, so woke up very Sad but then saw I had a long but lovely lovely message from his best friend (a girl who I've since become friends with). It was just what I needed. She knows what he's like and completely understands how I feel and really stuck up for me and said all the right things, which made me cry... but happy tears Smile
I feel so lucky as all my friends have been really rallying around me. I still can't believe it's affected me so much. Feels like grieving in a way. This is a lot worse than when I split from the ex, but then I had a choice then and it came to a natural end. This time it didn't and I had no choice but to cut him out when I really didn't want to.
God, I'm boring myself so much with all this bollocks, bleeuugghh! Shurrup now woman! AArrrrghhh!!

Spent the morning at Jitterbugs Play cafe in Wimbledon, having a good old chinwag with my mum buddies then came back for luncheon. Gotta go off to the GP for 2nd attempt at verucca removal (noice!) a bit later.

Mum's still in hospital awaiting ultrasound results...

Has anyone had a go at the Timeline on FB? I didn't like it last week but I'm warming to the idea now. Think I might just give it a whirl....

Turkleton Yay to TTC again! How exciting!!! Let the madness commence! Wink A very Happy Australia Day to you!

Right, I'm off to check out this timeline thingiebob. I have 40 minutes to kill, stay asleep little people, stay asleep....

NoMoreMarbles · 26/01/2012 15:03

frazzle Sad sounds like spam wasn't exactly prince charming. It really is like grieving when a relationship ends for whatever reasonSad I remember pining after the boyfriend I had who impregnated me when I had MC%231 he treated me like shite, cheated on me and messed me around but I loved him and he was firmly inside my head for months and months afterwardsSad it's awfulSad {{{hugs}}}

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NoMoreMarbles · 26/01/2012 15:03

Oooo turk TTC again? ExcellentGrin loads of luck xx

gomurray · 27/01/2012 09:09

Nemo where are you ? Please update us on scan, I am getting worried xx

BuddhaBelly · 27/01/2012 23:52

Just in case your still worried all is ok with nemo I'm sure she'll be along to update soon. Back fir a catch up tomorrow Smile

CaptainNemo · 28/01/2012 23:22

So sorry not posted, scan great but ms back with a vengeance (at over 20weeks FFS!?!?!) and really struggling. (D)H in bad books as was "too busy" to come to the scan AngrySad but luckily my lovely sister took the afternoon off work and came instead. So much appreciated. Consultant was v reassuring, and baby still DEF a boy! Said if I'm not feeling movement it's a perception issue rather than anything to do with the baby, apparently he's a right wriggler, which is exactly what I needed to hear.
Sorry for the me me me post and sorry to keep you all hanging, promise will be back when I can. Suspect I would feel a lot better if I could actually sleep Hmm but prob too much to ask for the next year or so!!
Ps finally outed myself on fb tonight, so I guess now it's official Grin

Murray will be thinking of you on Tuesday lovely. Will be tough but it's an important step forward on this tough old road. You'll get there lovely, I have every faith xx

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frazzlerock · 29/01/2012 09:46

Nemo Fantastic news! Your DH needs a kick in the shins mind Angry And why are you apologising for the "me me me" post? You dafty! If we're not allowed to do that then I'd better delete my past couple of posts! Sorry your MS is back. That sucks.

We're just off to see Cars 2. Bloody hate those stupid damned films but I need to kill time with the scamps. Ex H coming over later to watch them so I can go for a run. Feeling gross at the moment. Nasty case of biscuitoverindulgence lately. 3 more weeks until Brighton half and I cannae fricken wait! Grin

NoMoreMarbles · 29/01/2012 11:45

MorningGrin

nemo Gringreat news for the scanSmile crap about the MS thoughHmmget some ginger ale in youWink

frazzle hope you are feeling betterSmile I would love to do a marathon but I fear I would die horriblyGrin

Hope everyone else is ok (where are you allll!? How very dare you all have livesWink)

I'm still in limbo here but trying to ignore itBlush I'm waiting for more tests to arrive and have booked myself in to see the GP on 9th feb to talk it throughSmile DH is convinced there is someone in there (my uterus) and will not let me do ANYTHINGGrin so at least I'm getting a rest even if there's no one living in my bodySmile every cloud eh...

frazzlerock · 29/01/2012 17:59

Marbles rest all you can missy! Take full advantage. I would. I do hope your GP can help you this time. Why the hell have they left you so long ffs!
Never know, maybe your DH is right.... (!!!)

I've had an interesting couple of days. A friend of a mutual friend of Spam and I got in contact with me explaining how she's also been fooled by him and so have a few others. Same lines and everything! Seems he's a repeat serial offender. Should've guessed really!
I'm now plotting sweet revenge..... I think that man needs to be taught a lesson. I'm thinking something along the lines of that Lily Allen Smile video. Scratching up his records (he's a hip hop DJ) and spiking his tea with laxatives.... Now THAT would be so very funny but, unfortunately, impossible to pull off.

Where is everyone?
Nemo is clearly too busy with her head over the toilet Wink but the rest of you have no excuse!
Please come and entertain me!

gomurray · 29/01/2012 20:15

YIPPPPEEEEEE for successful scan nemo i was really worried when you dared not to report back pronto ! not impressed by dh though I really hope he had a bloody good excuse
how is ms that is rotten luck that it had returned but on the bright side at least you feel really pg
keyboard playing up hence no punctuation
will type more when at work as cannot be bothered fighting with this crappy machine>
dreading consultant appt but want to know results very mixed feeling about it

Impala · 29/01/2012 21:15

Sorry I haven't posted in ages, but I have been keeping up with all the news!
Nemo Hurrah for a successful scan and a boy Smile Shame on (D)H not coming along to the scan with you though Angry that's really not on after everything you've been through! Sorry to hear about ms being back, hope it goes away soon. I found ginger nut biscuits a great help for ms, if not for my waistline, when pg. And those travel sickness bands too. Hope the meeting with the accountant went OK. I'm also self-employed and totally empathise with being hit with a massive tax bill. It happened to me a couple of years ago and I'm still paying back my mum the money she loaned me Blush
Frazzle Lovely to have you back my dear, so sorry to hear about the crap year you've had. It sounds as though you're definitely better off without Spam, but it will probably take a while to get him out of your system. Love the plans for wreaking revenge Grin How was Cars 2? Very impressed with all the running and your dedication, well done you. Totally agree that exercise is the best form of anti-depressant too.
GoMurray Good luck for Tuesday, can well imagine you have mixed feelings about it. Will be thinking of you.
Marbles Keeping fingers crossed for you and hope you get some answers from tests and GP. Milk DH's helpfulness for all it's worth and rest up Smile
Turkelton Yay on deciding to ttc again Smile Hope having the implant thing removed wasn't too painful. Best of luck, hoping for some good news very soon!
Buddha How is ttc going? Keeping fingers crossed for you too!
Moomin Really sorry to hear about how things are with your DH Sad Hope you're OK.
Mummylimited Hope you're OK and just busy with your two lovely boys Smile
All OK here although had a horrid week last week. E had an ear infection at the beginning of the week so we were stuck indoors for 3 days, I was climbing the walls by the end of it! She's also being really difficult at the moment, everything is a constant battle of wills and to be honest I'm getting tired of it. I know some of it is down to her being tired after being ill and being on ABs for the infection, but it really is wearing me down Sad Please tell me it's just a phase!
I'd also like to ask you lovely ladies for advice about a situation with my mum which is also getting me down. Basically she just seems to be too busy to be involved with E, at least that's how I perceive it Sad She's always been involved in organisations/committees etc. ever since I was a child. When my dad was alive they were heavily into rowing, to the point where they were training several nights a week and every weekend. No problem with that, we still saw them regularly Then when my dad died she threw herself into her various activities (she's an alternative therapist and took on the management of a holistic centre), which again was totally understandable, she wanted to keep herself busy. However, when I had E I (selfishly perhaps) imagined she might want to be involved with her grand-daughter, especially as we live in the same town, she's 10 minutes away. Neither of my grand-mothers lived close to us when I was little, one was in France and the other was 2 hours away, although I did have a good relationship with them, especially my French granny, even though I only saw her 3 or 4 times a year. But seeing as my mum lives so near I had hoped that she and E would see a lot of each other. They have done, to a certain extent, in that my mum comes round several times a week, but I feel as though she's fitting us in around her other commitments most of the time and she'll stay for an hour maximum. Also, if E is tired and not in a great mood (which to be fair happens towards the end of the day when my mum comes round, especially since she dropped her afternoon nap) then she'll start looking at her watch and makes her excuses to go. Fair enough, she has things to do. But since E was born my mum knows how I've struggled at times with lack of sleep and trying to work and she's not ever really offered to help. She's had E to sleep at hers two or three times since she was born. E adores her and would love to stay over more often, but mum is always too busy with one thing and another. She also never takes her anywhere on her own unless I'm away on a training course of working for example. She won't ever offer to take her off my hands for an afternoon say so that I can have a break. I have never asked my mum to help with childcare figuring that E is my child and my responsibility, but when I look around at friends whose mums are very hands on I just feel so Sad. Perhaps it's a case of she had her own children and now enjoys her freedom too much? We almost have to make an appointment to see her at times and she seems to be taking on more and more commitments. For example last week, when E was ill and we were stuck at home all week she managed to make time to see us for an hour on Wednesday afternoon and that was it. The previous week she came to watch E swim but didn't stay to actually see her once she'd got out of the pool Shock Poor E was distraught when I had to tell her my mum had gone. To make matters worse, she looks after my sister's dog every few months and, strangely, manages to clear her diary when she's got him in order to take him for 2-hour walks every day Hmm E and I get even less of a look-in when the dog is around! Odd that she can make time for a dog but not her grand-daughter Hmm As I said, E adores her and is always asking when we can see my mum and I'm fed up with having to explain to her that she's busy. Re-reading this I sound like a petulant child, but I'm just sad and disappointed that my mum isn't really involved in E's life. RL friends have suggested that it's my mum that is missing out, which is true, but I wondered if any of you lovely ladies had any words of wisdom and how I could perhaps gently broach the subject with my mum. Trouble is I can feel myself getting angry and upset typing this so I'm not sure I could have a rational discussion with mum. Perhaps write to her? Or am I over-reacting? Help! Sorry for the long post, it's probably not what Frazzle had in mind when she asked us to entertain her Wink

CaptainNemo · 29/01/2012 21:52

Birdsong. Why do I fecking do it to myself?!?!?

Gah.

Proper post tomorrow, just thought I'd share that with you all... xx

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CaptainNemo · 29/01/2012 22:45

Impala just read your post. I could have written it myself. I have no idea what the answer is though I'm afraid, maybe you could come and talk to my mum and I'll go and talk to yours?!? It's almost like my mum is scared of T. She's never stayed there over night, she's never taken her anywhere ever, she's only just 65 but she behaves as though she's in her 80s. She never initiates seeing her or does anything with her apart from watch tv and v small scale in front of the tv type activities. In fairness she sometimes collects her from the cm's for me if I'm working but at most that's 3pm til 5.30 and she won't give her dinner. She's never bathed her and she hardly ever babysits - on occasion my dad has come to babysit without her. Oh, and did I mention that they live next door to us?!?! It's an impossible situation but as far as we 're concerned I can't see anything changing so I don't think there's a lot of point me saying anything. Am worried about how I'll cope if/when we have another baby... DH's mum is in her late 70s but is nevertheless a lot more active than my mum, but (like yours) she's too busy with this group or that meeting, and she lives nearly an hour away. Not how I would have imagined things being if you'd asked me 2 years ago, but there it is. Sorry for lack of words of wisdom, but at least I can empathise. Will try to say something more useful tomorrow xx

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PickledMoomin · 30/01/2012 08:54

Hello!

I'm going to try and remember everyone but I can't read any posts when replying-silly app. Laptop screen is still broken!

I'm just back from a child free weekend in London. It was lots of fun but it's always lovely to be back with L&J. Went up to stay with my best friend (who is also my ex from before I got together with D.) and his brother. We met up with some friends from school on Friday night and then went to see 'Ghost the Musical' on Saturday before going to a lovely Argentinian restaurant for dinner. It's messed my head up a bit... Whilst I'm pretty sure things won't improve with D, I can't help having thoughts about whether the grass is greener. Spending a weekend together makes me realise how close we are, how much he knows about me in comparison to D. He's a really good looking bloke, very likeable personality, a City job and we share the same interests. Not sure I should be allowing myself to think too much about him. But it didn't work out before, and he has a wonderful life in London with me screwing it all up for him. And the last thing I need is a distraction from finalising things amicably here. I doubt he's interested anyway and I certainly don't need to torture myself with wondering what could be.
Murray I'm sending you do much strength and keeping you in my thoughts. Please know that we are here for you. I hope the appointment brings you some closure. X
Impala Mothers, aye?! My mother isn't very hands on, either. I had no contact with her during my pregnancy with L. She didn't agree with our relationship. And then she didn't meet her granddaughter until she was almost a year old. She'd never come to our house (even though she's now on speaking terms with Dai after 7 years) and would never call to see how we are. She'll look after Joe if I'm working but insists she is paid. She won't take him anywhere other than the shop to buy a paper from my father and so he'll sit in front of the tv. She wouldn't look after them unless I was working. She refused to look after them overnight even on my wedding night. She doesn't work, have friends or hobbies.
Although I often resent the situation, I've learnt that this is simply who she is. She didn't have support with us and it would never occur to her to insist on helping. When I was ill last year (and there were days I couldn't lift my head and was admitted to hospital) I had to find friends to look after the children. She had to go food shopping....

I hope someone can offer advice to help rather than just to feel your pain. And E will settle once she's feeling better.
Nemo I'm so glad all went well at the scan and that you're feeling reassured (for now at least!). Angry at DH for not going with you. Do you remember that D didn't come to my 12 week scan? He was busy working, too!
Frazzle I can't say I'm surprised with you recent discovery about Spam. He's not an easy character and his depression certainly wouldn't have helped yours. As I've said before, you're better off this way. You'll eventually look back and be grateful that you made the decision to cut him out. The revenge may help, too Grin.

PickledMoomin · 30/01/2012 08:59

Marbles How are you doing today? When do you plan to test again? I'm do glad DH is looking after you. Can the GP not see you sooner??
Turk Is it out?? Do you think you'll consider clomid again? This news excites me!
Bhudda How's the 2WW treating you? Symptoms, please?
Mummylimited Where are you hiding?

Is that everyone? Kick me if I've forgotten you. It's sleeting here- better than our initial forecast of 10cm of snow.

Love to all x

PickledMoomin · 30/01/2012 09:01

And Impala, my mother is in her 50s! D's mother is nearly 90 and I can understand why she can't help...

Katturnerchildcare · 30/01/2012 12:12

Just thought I'd check in! Remember me!? Hmmmmm?????

NoMoreMarbles · 30/01/2012 13:33

hi ladiesSmile

moomin im still waiting for tests to arrive but im starting to think its just my body being an arsehole as usualHmm we are now TTC in earnest as we have put a time limit on it of new year...i think 5 years is quite enough heartache and DH agrees so if we dont get a baby by then then we are going to stop TTC.

kat i remember you!! Grin dont you have some news to share?Wink

frazzle i like your plan for revenge...i would maybe post him some kippersGrin the smellier the betterGrin

hope everyone else is ok todaySmile

frazzlerock · 30/01/2012 13:45

Good afternoon lovely ladies.

Impala I wish I could wave a magic wand over your mother but I'm afraid to say, in my experience, some people are just like that.
"Perhaps it's a case of she had her own children and now enjoys her freedom too much" - Hit the nail on the head there Sad
It always seems to be one set of grandparents are very hands on and the other not.
Ex H's parents have always been very hands on and very affectionate towards the children whereas my mother is not. She's actually great and will (most of the time) have the boys or one of them if I ever ask but she would never offer and she's certainly not as affectionate as the other GP's.
It's true what your friends have said. She is the one missing out. I know this doesn't help you much. Are DH's parents still around?
BTW, I can sympathise with the constant battle of wills. Jack is ridiculously stubborn. On top of that, he's always causing trouble and making other children cry and is basically like a bull in a china shop at the playgroups. It's awful. We had to storm out of one this morning as he hurt another child (he was warned). I actually wanted to cry. I never thought I'd be the mother of a child everyone was nervous of/disliked. Thankfully for him he has a very cheeky persona which most people think is hilarious so he gets away with murder Hmm

Moomin From what you've told me about C, it seems as though he is interested but he's probably a bit confused. It's a very difficult situation as you're such good friends but when you have history it can make things very difficult. If he wanted to, would you ever go back there? How did things end when you were together? Would the same problems arise if you got back together?
I hope you're right about Spam. I can't wait for the day when I don't miss him anymore. Sad I'd actually really like him to get back in touch just so I can tell him to eff off but I know I'd eventually give into him so it's far better he doesn't.

Marbles and Buddha What Moomin said! Symptoms please from both of you!

Katturner.... hmmm rings a bellllll..... Nah, it's gone. Who?
How are you doing since I last saw you? Fancy a bit of Collywobbling this week or next?

Nemo How's the sickness today? I can't say I ever really had it. Think I'd have freaked right out as I'm completely terrified of throwing up!

Right, just so you know. Not only are they selling Peanut Butter Kitkat Chunkies at my local sweet shop, but M&S are selling chocolate covered pretzles! Seriously, this is bad. It's all I can think of. I'm trying my damnedest to get into peak fitness too after putting on nearly half a stone in about three weeks. I wouldn't mind so much if I could just have one bar/bag but I'd have to have about 5 as there's no stopping me once I get started. So bloody selfish of the shops to do something like this. Annoyed much.

Now I've got to respond to an email from my Spam distraction (Let's just call him 'M' for now) and I've no idea what to write. MEN!! It was almost easier being in a shit long term relationship. At least I knew where I stood Hmm

FS! I can see the sweet shop from here. I'm sure I can see a bright light beaming from those badass Kitkats....

gomurray · 30/01/2012 13:49

Hello ladies !

awww so many ladies with 'not very helpful' mums Sad. Impala I hope that fact that you are not alone helps, even though nobody has any answers for you. My mum lives over 200 miles away but still makes the effort to come at least once a month and looks after E on the Monday following the weekend she comes down Smile. I know if I lived closer she'd babysit more and take him out but as it is I think she does her bit. DP's mum also does her bit once a month on a Monday and also takes him for overnight stays and helps out when we need it for the odd half day here and there - she lives locally. Clearly I am very lucky.

Moomin your weekend in London sounds fab - I think I quite fancy your BF based on description, sounds lovely !!! but I guess you are right to sort out your current situation before letting your heart wander as well as your eye Wink

Marbles what news from you my dear ? Any symptoms/AF ?

Buddha SYMPTOMS PLEASE

Turk what happening with you, are you going back on clomid ? I remember when you got results of how well you'd ov'd after taking clomid and we joked that you were going to fill a people-carrier with babies !

KatTurner - what was your zoo name - I actually recognise your 'real' name but cannot remember who you were MN-wise !

I have been trying to think up questions to ask consultant. I guess questions depend on the results but I don't wan tto walk away and realise that there were a whole host of things I wanetd to ask. Had a long chat with DP about appt at dinner on Sat night (a rare night out thanks to mum and dad babysitting) and we are just going to see what we are told and take it from there - what will be will be.
Body still taking the p!ss out me - random days of EWCM and zero thermal shift Sad.

BTW Nemo what did you mean about 'Birdsong' - I haven't watched it but saw a tiny bit last night and it looked good.

Katturnerchildcare · 30/01/2012 19:46

murray Lol I can't remember what I went by on mn before, I've been using to promote my childminding of late so using my business name.
....anyone remember?!

marbles I do have news indeed; I'm 22 weeks pregnant with a yellow bundle :0been a bit of a struggle this time around, I shan't bore wi the details yet as I haven't caught up on everyone else's situations.

Frazzle could do my dear! And if you fancy bringing some of that confectionary along I'd be more than happy to taste test :0

Any chance you lovelies would mind filling me in on your current status, kinda like this:

Kat 22 weeks pg no.2 yellow!! EDD 31st May (you know the drill)

BuddhaBelly · 30/01/2012 20:44

Sorry for being awol ladies, I seem to have been mega busy but can't actually remember with what Hmm Confused
gomurray Good luck for tomorrow I will be thinking of you, be strong (not that you seem anything else!) and take your notebook! Any sign of AF yet?
marbles Sad what is your poor body doing to your head, this pg/ttc business is such a headf**k. Hope you are still making the most of dh imposed resting? Smile We are kind of on a time limit too, although we haven't set a date to stop I am 40 this year so tick tock tick tock Grin
Frazzle Hurray I thought we'd lost you to FB and twitter! Grin You make me laugh with all the running but still having your mad cravings for all things naughty (including men) So sorry to hear you have meant yet another wrong un as they say, but how good does it feel offloading here? At least you can say you've made a new friend (his best friend) out of this who completely understands what you are going through in RL too. Any more revenge plans? Have you managed to ignore the chunky KitKats!!
nemo Completely inappropriate when you were having a mini meltdown but all I could do was Grin at the thought of you cutting your nipple Shock I have such images in my head now Wink Once again so glad that your scan went well, any names yet? More importantly have you worked out how you can make DH pay yet? Wink I had awful MS all the way through, is it just the feeling or are you actually throwing up? I lost a stone off my pre-pregnancy weight due to MS all the way through so it's not all bad Wink Just remind me of that if I'm lucky enough to get pg again!
Turkleton Yey another one ttc! Grin Lets have a race Wink
Impala I fully understand why you feel so annoyed with your Mum's lack of interest, I never get gp's that don't want to be completely and utterly involved but I suppose that's because both sets of mine are pretty good to be honest (although dm is sometimes FAR too involved and telling me what to do!) but I suppose that's better than seeming disinterest. Both sets of parents help us with childcare and my Mum is always giving us a break and having him overnight etc, we are very lucky Smile I agree with your friends that say it's her loss, and although E won't have the close relationship you would have liked I'm sure you will more than make up for it and in the future with her children too. I'm very worried that E is having another "stage" I'm hoping Ewan will grow out of his VERY quickly but the tantrums seem never ending so if he has another one at 3 I will be grey and very wrinkly!
moomin So another man in your head hey? Well we can't help the feelings and thoughts that creep in it's just wether we act on them or not. You can't help comparing to D that's only natural, maybe sort things out at home and then see how things lie with C? Maybe take the kids next time if that doesn't put him off nothing will Wink
Kat Congratulations, what does I think about a possible brother or sister?

Well if you are still awake after this mammoth post Blush apologies it's a bit long! Now on 2 ww AF is due Friday, no symptoms, keep imagining I've got sore (.)(.) but I think it's all in my head Hmm although PMT is not bad as it normally is although that's not even probably a symptom!

BuddhaBelly · 30/01/2012 20:46

Forgot to put myself on the list

Kat 22 weeks pg no.2 yellow!! EDD 31st May
Buddha Cycle 4 AF due 03/02/12

Not sure what the non pg/ttc people will put on the list? Men? Wink

BuddhaBelly · 30/01/2012 20:49

Ooh another two possible but probably not symptoms, having problems sleeping and a very vivid dream, in fact it was a bloody nightmare I dreamt I was pg had scan all was well, and then I gave birth to 6 babies!!!! All I did was cry!

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