Back in the Zoo for new adventures with old friends

[CaptainNemo]

Come on over animals, I think we'll be very comfy here

Nemo Hmm maybe I should be rethinking this two children idea of mine you sound exhausted my lovely, I hope the holiday rejuvenates you as it sounds as if you could do with a break. Make sure you put your feet up and let DH get on with it (watch him fall apart )
Murray Bloody hell how sht is that, normal cycles until you decide to ttc then they go to pot no wonder your it is such a head f*k this getting pg malarky, hope you got a rise before you went away

I had a +ve OV test yesterday so had to dtd with a hangover first time I've been proper full on drunk in well over a year (oops diet) but I had a lovely time at a friends bbq, I even decided it would be good fun to get in her swimming pool fully dressed and with my Iphone in my bra needless to say the phone is sat in a box of rice and I''m praying every night to the god of Iphones that it will work again (but really not holding my breath) Good job I don't get that drunk too often

Well I had my day 21 blood test results today, I did ask GP if it mattered if I ov late as it varies cycle to cycle and she assured me it wouldnt make a different. Well they came back as normal and no action to be taken but when I googled my results it didn't agree with that, my FSH levels show depletion of ovarian reserve but on further googling it seems that you MUST be 7dpo for them to be effective and have day 3 tests too, so back to GP on the 29th armed with my info and ask for retests whilst trying not to panic in the meantime

Buddha just wanted to pop on and say that I have no idea about FSH levels but I am almost certain that is DOES matter that bloods are taken 7 days after ovulation (which for most people won't be day 21). If I had bloods taken at day 21 I would not have ovulated some cycles. If you ov'd later than day 14 that probably explains your lower levels - not that I want to give false hope, but it does matter so make sure GP listens when you go back demanding answers. Good on you for persevering.

Oh and am impressed by dtd with hangover and even more impressed by drunken antics - LOL - how is your iPhone ? DP's stopped working when E dribbled in his as a baby - he left it in a hot car for a few hours and that dried it out.

News from here is that temp finally rose on Tuesday morning, so in the nick of time. Fingers crossed .

Murray I have everything crossed for this cycle for you, any symptoms yet? I'm trying to ignore how sore my (.)(.) are because I know it's just another head f**k that my body has sent to make me more disappointed when af arrives. It's done this a few times in the past, so not holding my breath. AF due tomorrow or Weds so we'll soon know

Happy Birthday Nemo Hope DH makes it up to you for the all other celebration days

Buddha any news from you ? Do you plan to test or wait until AF is late ?...
Likewise I have everything crossed for a result for you mrs xx

Same here - sore b00bs once in a while but am also ignoring as I remember during my 'break' cycle feeling twinges and thinking that if I had been trying I'd have been taking that as PG sign... so at least I now know better and just ignore anything that may raise my hopes - although I know if AF arrives I will be sooo gutted. Going to see my PG friend for the weekend - she is 22 weeks so will have a little bump. I sooo want to know that I'm PG when I see her. AF due Fri/Sat - fingers crossed

Murray How does af have some immaculate timing? Visited friend and her 14 month old dd Monday, E was an absolute darling, he looked after her, played with her, helped her up when she fell over, wiped her mouth, fed her fruit, he was adorable and I nearly cried thinking what a fantastic big brother he would make. Went to the loo before I left and just to kick me whilst Im down af has arrived, bloody fantastic! Oh well onward and upwards
Any more symptoms for you?

Buddha I am so sorry, that is dreadful and such awful timing . It is so unfair esp when E was such a good wee helper and you realised what a fab big brother he would be (and hopefully WILL be). When is your appt with GP about FSH levels and timing of bloods ? I don't know if it makes any difference to you but I always find when AF arrives I try to take action and do something positive to help me get a step closer to my goal. Could you try taking flaxseed (promotes healthy ovulation and is just generally a fertility superfood). B100 is good for helping hormones work effectively. D3 if you don't get enough sunlight (not such as issue at this time of year). Vit C - your body only uses what it needs so you can't take too much. How about acupuncture or reflexology ? Do you chart temps - there is a lot to be learned about what your body is up to from temping. Maybe you are better off not obsessing, we are all different. Just for me, I feel the need to take control so actions work for me mentally to stay positive.

Nothing to report from here - thought AF was arriving earlier as had very mild cramps - then I remembered I had the same last cycle when not trying so prob means AF in the post. That said, I also have achy boobs which could be down to the fact that I have a cold starting which can make you feel achy so maybe just that - no idea. AF due Fri/Sat - I'll be gutted if it arrives just as I arrive at my friend's house and see her lovely bump

Hi Ladies

nice to see so many posting

buddha so sorry AF got you she got me too...on the morning of my op...and i hadnt brought any tampons bloody typical! they insisted on doing a preg test before the op aswell...despite me saying "im on my period im not preg" good to see you looking into your levels etc and not letting the GP fob you off! i have never had any of those tests as my cycle was so erratic they can give false readings. you have to have the day 21 test on your day 21 if you get me...so 7 days post ov whenever that is for you. it makes a HUGE difference to the level if it is done on the wrong day.

murray hope AF stays away for you

nothing new here...had my op...all went well and recovering well. DH and I have had some issues recently but we are working through them and barely TTC at all TBH if things carry on how they are i dont really want to bring another child into it as DH and I most likely wont stay together. we are talking about things though and the future looks a little brighter...

marbles how ridiculous that the hospital made you test even though af had arrived have you fully recovered from op now? Sorry to hear things have been so bad with you and dh I hope you can make it work and sort things out x

Murray Did af arrive?

No AF here but tested yesterday and BFN so am very concerned that I'm going to have the same a June where I get 'slightly' PG but then have an early MC . Going to test in the morning - praying that HcG levels rise enough to give a proper BFP or AF just arrives late as cannot bear the faint lines for days then it all goes wrong. Such a head f@ck.

How you doing Buddha ?

BFN absolutely gutted. Am now 15dpo so 4 days late. My body is clearly completely broken as is my spirit

Oh Murray its shit isn't it. No other way to describe it but complete and utter shit the whole ttc malarkey I'm so sorry your body is giving you a total head f**k. No advice sorry but tons of empathy and sympathy as I know how you're feeling. Go eat some chocolate and have a good cry see if that will make you feel better x

Update - called to speak to GP yesterday as was concerned that my body was not allowing AF to start despite BFN on Tuesday and Wednesday. She asked me to drop off a FMU sample to the surgery which I did and she called me this afternoon to tell me I'm definitely PG ! However, given that it has taken until 18dpo to get a positive result I am very cautious about it being ok so I asked if I could have my HcG levels checked which they are going to do on Monday . I have read a lot on google this week (big mistake) about late implantation and high risk of MC associated with it (85%)... even if it wasn't a late implantation then why on earth did it take so long for BFP ?.... I am not jumping up and down - a long way from it. I am quietly happy and desperately hoping all is well. Cross your fingers for me ladies.

Murray Everything crossed for you my lovely. Let's hope hcg levels show its progressing successfully

Thanks Buddha - did a CB this morning and only a very faint line, also did a CBD which said "pregnant 1-2 weeks", it should really say 2-3 weeks by now. I am not hopeful atall, trying to keep my chin up but being realistic at the same time. I'll keep you posted mrs xx

I know how you feel my first 3 pg's were all faint lines the only really very strong line was Ewan and I will always be doubtful if and when I get another bfp if it's faint. But that's not to say it won't work out for you and I'm still crossing everything for you x

Update today is that has bloods taken so should find out tomorrow (although nurse said 1 week !). I'll chase the GP and hopefully get result tomorrow. However there was no word of a follow up set of bloods - the nurse knew nothing so am concerned as there is little benefit doing 1 set of hCG levels, the whole point is to ensure that the levels are doubling every 48-72 hours.
Anyway, decided I couldn't wait any longer and had to know what was going on so did a HPT this evening and got a proper strong line and quite quickly ! It gives me some confidence that hormones levels are rising at least but not conclusive evidence that all is well. If GP isn't clued up about 2nd set of hCG bloods I will contact EPU to see if they will help out. There is no way I am going to rest until I know levels are 'normal'. I have a CBD to do in the morning so fingers crossed I have moved on from 1-2 weeks xxx

Hi ladies

murray congrats!! Il be eagerly awaiting the CBD result tomorrow

buddha hi there lovely! Hope you are doing well

No news here... AF due any day now and I can feel PMT all around at the mo so no doubt she will rock up when she's not welcome (always) and we have barely had any sexuals this cycle but things are better between DH and me seems like we are back on track so we will see

CBD still says 1-2 weeks so hCG levels still very low - 2 weeks behind where they should be . I am starting to properly freak out about ectopic as levels are rising but very, very slowly. Can't concentrate at work (hence why I'm on here) and just want to cry. I can't take much more of this sh!t.

Marbles fingers crossed for you mrs xx

Got hCG results from yesterday - 142 which is really low. Going back tomorrow for another set of bloods to compare. GP doing bloods so I will raise my concerns about ectopic with her. Am glad I did the CBD this morning as it took the sting out of the blood results as I already knew levels were lower than 200. Last night's strong BFP gave me hope but it appears to have been false hope

murray it's not over yet so...142 is better than a big fat nothing and it was the first blood test. Who knows what the next will say! CBDs are notorious for being shit too... They are in no way helping so drop that HPT and relax and say after me "today I am pregnant" forget about tomorrow/next week/ months ahead etc put your feet up with a cuppa, watch something funny on telly and repeat "today I am pregnant" because you are and despite blood results and CBDs putting a downer on things today you have a little teeny ball of potential and even if next week things are still worrisome then it can be dealt with next week etc

I know exactly the limbo you are in...I have insider knowledge as do we all. The "today I am pregnant" mantra helped me enjoy what little time I had the last time I was upduffed and funny thing is, it hurt the same when it went wrong even though I let myself get excited. I just have some nice little moments with DH to attach to it too instead of steadfast ignoring of the situation...

That sounds sterner than it is meant but you know what I mean!

PS can you guys believe that we have known eachother for 5 years soon?!!

Hi Marbles - 5 years ! Really !!!! wow . I guess after that length of time yuo are allowed to give me a stern talking to. I can see where you are coming from but I have to be realistic. I have not given up every inch of hope jusy yet, but I'm preparing myself for the worst tomorrow. TBH my biggest concern at the moment is that we go on holiday next Thu and if this is ectopic there will be no holiday as I imagine I'd have to have an operation. I know it may seem incidental but we have been looking forward to it for ages - such sh!tty timing. Goodness knows I need a holiday after the past few months.

Not good news - GP agrees that hCG levels are worryingly low and also suspects ectopic. She is going to talk to the consultant who dealt with my MC in December on Friday and see where we go from here. When I told her I had a holiday in a week she grimaced so I'd better get my holiday insurance sorted tonight