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Could dd be allergic to her wee?

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Skyler · 07/01/2006 14:22

DD2 is 6 and a half months old and unfortunately suffering from terrible nappy rash. I think it is linked to her teething as she already has 8 teeth and it has been present since the first one arrived on and off. I have tried numerous creams, nappy free time, disposables (she is normally in cloth), chamomile tea flannel wipes, etc etc.
My dd1 suffered a lot too but hers was def related to her poo when teething but this time it is all up the front to the top of her nappy area rather than round the back. During nappy free time today she weed on her mat and lay in it before I spotted it and her front got all red again where she was laid on it.
Any ideas, advice, help? We will be back to the HV on mon.
TIA

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Twiglett · 07/01/2006 14:41

could she have a yeast infection (if it looks like really bad nappy rash).. try canestan .. the over the counter cream

does she drink enough .. I think if she is already susceptible to sore patches the urea would just make it sting

I would avoid all creams and just use cotton wool and water tbh

never used cloth nappies so can't comment .. do disposables help?

Twiglett · 07/01/2006 14:42

oh

teething makes nappies worse

and

if its just red skin does it go down after about 20 mins in the air in which case not really nappy rash I don't think .. its just reddened skin

busybusybee · 07/01/2006 15:09

A doc once told me if creams have been used for a while it can be a good idea to stop using all creams for a few days to give the skin a break - this has worked with mine a few times

I thought it might be worth a try

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Skyler · 07/01/2006 20:05

Thank you.
I am pretty sure it isn't a yeast infection as dd1 suffered with this and it doesn't seem to be the same. I will go to the docs on Mon to rule this out though. It is red raised bumps with red skin under but unfortunately doesn't recover quickly in the air. She is still b/f and not yet drinking from a beaker (although I have introduced one now we have started weaning) but I think her fluid intake is OK as the wee is clear and doesn't smell so I think she is hydrated.
The disposables used to speed up the recovery when dd1 had nappy rash which is why I tried them but in fact the worst bout she got was when she was in a disposable and then today when she had no nappy on at all .
I will go back to cotton wool and water for the next few days and see what happens. I hope it is the teething, and I hope she will have a break from it soon (for my sake too as her sleeping is awful too).

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Gloworm · 07/01/2006 20:15

we have found huggies nappies usually result in red rash, but pampers ok.

lots of wet wipes seem to irritate, but johnsons ok.

using baby probiotics always seems to help with nappy rash, especially when teething or sick.

tea tree oil can help too.

maisiemog · 07/01/2006 20:29

My ds is teething and has had rashes which have died down a bit now. I have found that washing him with just water or perhaps a bit of chamomile tea, then applying bepanthan works.
It wasn't working for a while until I tried using a bit more bepanthan, like about a couple of centimetres or more, then applying it all over the tummy, bum etc. Now I use more it really seems to form an excellent barrier.
He is in cloth nappies.
Could it be anything she is eating, now she is weaning?

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Skyler · 07/01/2006 20:41

Hello, thanks for your messages
I can only get hold of Pampers where I am (Cyprus currently without a car) and only ever used the sensitive wipes too or flannels and camomile tea and olive oil or water...
What are baby probiotics?
I don't think it is anything she is eating as we have taken things slowly so far and it seems to be the wee more than the poo causing the problem. The poo leaves a red mark but this fades relatively quickly. I liked Bepanthan as a barrier but have recently run out and they don't sell it here. We move back to the UK in four weeks and so I was hoping to do without it until we got back but perhaps it is worth another go. The metanium I have is wonderful and clears it up quite well but I can't keep putting this on with EVERY nappy...can I??
It was the reaction today with the nappy off that has got me confused. Perhaps I should just whack on the metanium until she stops teething and hope this resolves it...

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mumofelise · 07/01/2006 20:58

my dd2 suffered from v. bad nappy rash and i did have to apply metanium every nappy for weeks. she would be so sore that it blead (sp). doctor also advised againt fruit juice as it made her wee acidic, only grape juice.

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Skyler · 07/01/2006 21:05

Thank you. I will just keep up with the metanium then. It is magic stuff but the minute I don't use it dd is so sore again. It flares up so quickly.

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dawndonald · 08/01/2006 13:25

Please never use essential oils on babies without qualified aromatherapist advice.

Right this may sound completley nuts but try egg white as a barrier. Wipe it on, let it dry and then put the nappy on. It does work honest. Also plain water and cotton wool.

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Skyler · 08/01/2006 14:00

I wasn't going to try the tea tree oil as that seemed a bit harsh for her skin TBH. I use some in the nappy bucket but that is all. I will try the egg white, but I think I will try feeding her some egg first to check she isn't allergic. I had heard of that before but had forgotten so thanks for the reminder.

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madmel · 08/01/2006 17:00

Try putting her in a bath where you run the water through oats first. Put some oats in an old pair of tights or soak, then let the water flow through that into the bath. It will definitely help.

I agree with the pp about egg white. My DD2 used to get a bleeding bum and we found egg white left for a minute or two then putting a layer of vaseline over the top was the only thing that helped.

Silk liners are really good for promoting healing. You have to be careful how you wash them (30 degrees hand wash) but they are fab.

HTH

sazhig · 10/01/2006 03:14

2nd vote for the oat bath - ds has been really sore this week & the day after he had the oast bath he looked much better.

bobbybobbobbingalong · 10/01/2006 06:11

Bob's specialist told me that bad nappy rash was caused by the skin reacting to the proteins of something he had eaten and excreted coming into prolonged contact with his skin. We elimated the culprits and whammy - no more nappy rash.

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Skyler · 10/01/2006 17:42

Thanks for the tips ladies. I am still on a trial and error exploration, but I will be trying all these suggestions.
Bobbybob - That does make sense and would have worked with dd1 whose poos caused her nappy rash but this is def caused by dd's wee as it is all at the front. I also went back to the HV today and she has prescribed me something else to try in the bath as well. (Can't remember what and can't collect it till tomorrow). She said it seems that she has extremely sensitive skin and I am hoping it will stop when the teething does. I am missing my cloth nappies!

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bobbybobbobbingalong · 10/01/2006 18:01

By excreted I meant wee.

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Skyler · 10/01/2006 18:27

Oooh I was off on an excrement tangent. Thank you. It sounds like it will be worth doing a food diary for a bit too...

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maisiemog · 10/01/2006 18:37

Bobbybobetc... Have you been watching that bobbynog thingy on CBeebies?
Just out of interest, what was the source of the proteins?

poppiesinaline · 10/01/2006 19:00

Have you tried Drapolene. Found that worked better than Metanium, in my DDs case anyway.

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Skyler · 10/01/2006 19:23

No not tried Drapoline. I can get Metanium on prescription at the moment so that is good and it is working. I am in Cyprus at the moment but we are moving back to the UK in 4 weeks and so I will have a look out for that when we get back. Thanks

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Skyler · 10/01/2006 19:24

It is working as long as I keep putting it on I should say. Still trying for the cure though....

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bobbybobbobbingalong · 10/01/2006 21:53

We are in NZ so no Cbeebies - I'll get my mum to tape it!

Ds was allergic to heaps of things. He needs a smaller font on his medic alert bracelet!

maisiemog · 10/01/2006 23:15

Bobby - you could get him a medic alert medallion?
Please don't get your hopes up about the Bobbynogs, I'm not sure they are worth having posted around the World.
Skyler stock up on Chamomile tea in Cyprus, it's soo cheap there.

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Skyler · 11/01/2006 05:03

Ooh is it really cheaper? Top tip. I haven't noticed as I didn't buy it in the UK.

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maisiemog · 11/01/2006 17:44

I reckon! I was working in mainland Greece four years ago and you could buy a box of Chamomile flowers for next to nothing. It costs about £3 for a box of loose Chamomile here and about £1.20 for 20 teabags.