October Babies

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Not sure if anyone else is ready to join me here yet...bells, woodge???

Been up since 4am, please tell me that I'm not the only one!!!

Don't know how big Eleanor is - haven't been getting her weighed and measured. I would guess at about 9 1/2 to 10 lbs - no idea about height, although at birth and when the health visitor took over and wanted to measure her she was on the 91st centile....

But we are OK. I have been putting Eleanor down in her crib to sleep for the past 3 days, and things have really changed. I don't know what it is - a lot has been going on - maybe she sleeps more restfully in the crib and is less tired, maybe since having her tongue tie divided she is feeding better and is less hungry, or maybe it is the cranial osteopathy, but she is much more contented. We no longer have screaming all evening - in fact she only really cries at all if she is tired and I don't put her down to sleep at once. Then she gets into a right strop. Mind you, last night it took me over an hour to settle her for the night (but at least she wasn't screaming - fussing and complaining, yes, but not howling!).

Still breastfeeding - going a bit better - going to try expressing so that I can leave her with a babysitter and go and watch Lord of the Rings when it comes out! Just off to do that now!

Hi guys, I have no idea how big Anastcia is right now, can't find her blasted red book Not good as she is off for her hearing test this afternoon. I think she is about 10/11 lbs now, and VERY long...She is 8 weeks now. She knows the difference between day and night. She isn't sleeping through the night or anything, but she does sleep at night and not expecting to play.

I think the Cranial Osteo is working too, she was having 9pm colic screaming fits EVERY night, but nothing since Thursday, fingers crossed.

Not sure if my ADs are working yet, but my thyroid levels are abnormal again, so that may in part be why I feel so rough.

Glad to hear that everyone is doing better. It did look like no one on this thread was going to get a break!

hey thats great.... we all sound happier! glad you guys are doing well. Zara also seems to have learnt night from day pie, sleeps rather well.... we were both in bed for 12 hours last night with only 2 real wakings which were only short ones so i feel rested well and truly! she cooos, ahhhhs, smiles and is FAB. rarely cries (gripe water...hoooooorah). Have found baby whisperer book great for getting to understand babyspeak but I'm not trying to stick to any routine as she seems to have fallen into our rather 'student' lifestyle anyway....which i'm not keen to give up until i have to!

Dd is 11.5lbs, can't remember length but it was 98th centile at 6 weeks. She's bursting out of 0-3 clothes but still looks swamped in 3-6.
Glad to hear everyone seems to be getting more sleep/less crying
I've got a question.. do you wait until baby is crying for a feed at night or do you feed sooner.. I tend to wake up and hear dd snuffling about but when I turn on the light her eyes are still shut, but then, since I'm awake anyway, I feed her. I'm wondering if I should leave it until she actually asks for a feed by being awake and crying, as I may be feeding her from habit at 3am rather than from her need.
Hmm.. does that make any sense?
If I wait until she's upset I run the risk of dh waking up and he's grumpy enough in the mornings when he's slept okay..

I would wait until she wakens properly and cries looking for a feed personally. It is having the ability to sleep through a restless baby that is the skill

Thanks Mears - I did this last night.. fed at 9pm, she fell asleep at 10.30, didn't wake up 'properly' until 5am!
Her brother woke at 4.15 though
And I only slept 11pm - 2am due to insomnia (and noisy snuffly piggy noises from sleeping dd).

Pie - did you join the PND trial at QCH? - Randomised mums offered group 'whinging' sessions or baby massage classes to research effect on PND, I've been offered the group whinge (would have preferred the massage class )

bluebear, I haven't heard of that. Though to be honest I wouldn't take the group whinge there after my experience with the horrid antenatal psychiatrist I was referred to.

How did you find out about it?

A Phd student approached me the morning after I had dd, I assumed she was asking all new mums. You had to sign a consent form, but can pull out at any time.
They send out the Edinburgh (is that how you spell it??) questionnaire at 4 weeks, then group mums according to results and randomise the 'treatment'.
Can't decide whether whinge group is really for me, it will be a lot of hassle to get to.. I don't have a car, but I believe in taking part in research if possible (I'm a scientist by trade and know what it's like to be on the other side).
Got annoyed at the woman who contacted me, with the results of my questionnaire in her hand she described me as 'a little down'. Why do they all say 'down'... the word is 'depressed'.. I just feel it trivialises the feelings...rant rant rant
They also video the mums interacting with baby at beginning and end, to see if relationship changes.. I could not possibly be more bonded to dd, so I doubt that they'll get any measurable results from me.

I'm thinking of coming off the ADs, the insomnia is so much worse when I'm on them, and I've had a breathing space to get some perspective on things. Would prefer more sleep, and more panic attacks to be honest!

had to tell...... dd just shit so much that it went through a vest, dungarees and her bouncy chair cover.... dad was sitting a foot away and when i came into the room he said.... your baby smells!!!! poor baby! she was VERY content too.... happiest she'd been all day! i threw the vest way as cant imagine the yellow poo would ever come out...... but spent 30 mins scrubbing a cute pair of dungarees..... she's asleep on my bed with a huge grin on her face!

Anastacia has just had her 8 week check (don't get it at 6 weeks down my way).

As of 3 weeks ago she was on the 9th centile (born small of course because of my hyperemisis), but today she has jumped to the 50th. So she is now 5040g. Anyone know what that is in pounds?

She didn't have her first jabs due to her cold, which has been keeping her up all night as she can hardly breathe with it

How are the ADs going bluebear. I have been desperately trying to keep myself busy but am barely sleeping and still getting days of just weeping. I've been on them for 4 weeks now, is that long enough to see if they are working?

Argh crap!

PS glad to hear you are getting on with the baby poo spod

Hello again all. Got a few minutes (hopefully) before Eleanor wakes up again, so thought i would catch up with you all.

Now, lets see.... We're doing OK. Only thing is, I find I have started comparing A LOT with my son - and they are VERY different babies. So I am always thinking "When Alex was this age, he used to do such and such" In fact I seem to recall he was doing quite a lot (well, being awake a fair bit), and this one is doing very little except eating and sleeping. Must stop comparing - bad mother....

She is sleeping well (well - when I finally convince her to go to sleep she then sleeps quite well - getting her off is trickey though) and eating much better (doesn't really hurt any more, although I am STILL not convinced that her latch is as good as it could be - I still think she should open her mouth more, cos she pinches my nipples.) Exciting fact - for the last 2 nights I have been able to bring her into bed with me and feed her lying down!!! Until a couple of weeks ago I kept trying to do it but she would just fiddle around and scream at me, so I stopped bothering to try - but night before last I just gave it a go and she launched herself into position, and that was that. Last night too - so hurrah! Night feedings will no longer be such a tremendous bore (it gets dull spending a hour sat in the dark unable to move - much better to doze!)

That sounds like enough for now - hope you are all well. Sorry things are still rough Pie - how is your SPD?

And another thing - does anybody else's baby get hysterical when you bathe them? Or rather, when you take them out of the bath to dry them? Because mine yells the house down - sounds really pitiful - and my son used to do it too (doing it again!). Do all babies do this, or is it something about the way I do baths????

Hi oakmaiden, I'm soooooooo glad to hear the feeding is going better.

I'm always comparing my 2 girls too. DD1 was such a happy smiling baby, Anastacia is serious and always frowning, much harder to please. And yes she wails like a banshee when you get her out of the water.

SPD is crap at the moment, I was making vast improvements but the last week has been terrible, have become housebound again just as I was starting to go out more. Maybe the cold weather aggrevated it or something.

Oh well

So is anyone getting there new babies Xmas presents? I feel silly getting Anastacia anything as she wouldn't notice.

I am getting Eleanor pressies - I know she won't notice, but Alexander will - he would want to know why Santa Claus wasn't giving her anything. I did consider telling him that she was a naughty baby, which was why she was getting no presents, but decided that was a bad idea!

She is getting a rag doll, a jack-in-the-box and a door bouncer. And a few little bits.

LOL at the 'naughty baby'! Hadn't thought of getting dd any pressies - hope ds is so wrapped up in his presents that he won't notice dd didn't get any.

Feeling a lot better.. not suicidal since last friday, no panic attacks this week, and I've started laughing again, so ADs look effective. Side effects not impossible to live with, spinning head and insomnia, but getting better. Are yours having any effect Pie, would you consider changing them ( I am b'feeding on citalopram).

I compare the babes all the time, usually to dd's benefit, she's very smiley and easy going and ds was a screaming, non-sleeping, nightmare child (still is in many ways). Dd has slept for an 8 hour stretch the last couple of nights (no feeds) - ds has woken up at 2am and needed a hour of attention to get back to sleep (or at least to stop screaming and waking up the whole household). Oh, for a pair of children who both sleep!

Dd's worst habit is screaming when I type, thus reading posts is okay, but posting has to be at nap time, or she compains bitterly - she's fine with baths and leaving them (isn't it the temperature change that makes them scream? ds always did) but screams like mad when the washing machine enters the spin cycle (a lot since we use washable nappies!)

hey all.... you're all sounding much happier... glad feeding is going well oakmaiden.... and pie... 50th centile.... well done! We're fine here.... baby wise at least. Having problems with an elderly relative who fell and broke her arm (we are entirely responsile for her) the night before she moved house to be nearer us! other gold digging relatives are giving us hassle....resulting in sending the solicitors letters etc.... social services and hospital being very unhelpful... trying to discharge the old dear even though she cant walk, has broken arm and dementia has worsened.... the old dear says she just wants to live in her own place but we know this is the wrong course of care for her. Am scared that I will end up caring for her i cannot bear the thought because a)i have a bad back and can barely manage to take care of my own house b) have 8 week old baby i am trying to enjoy c)am 100 miles away from where she lives as our house move is delayed..... so fed up.... miserable about spending babys first christmas in uncertainty and chaos with more hassle and crap to look forward to in the new year. i wouldnt mind but the said old dear is basically ungrateful, thoughtless and stubborn with little concern for our welfare or psychological well being.... and no, shes always been like that, its not just cos shes old. dd is great though

Argh.. after 7 weeks of breastfeeding with no real pain, dd has given my nipple a 'lovebite', a smashing purple bruise has appeared. I have no idea when she did it, but I guess I've been a bit too relaxed about her latch... ouch.
How is everyone? We've all got colds, sniff sniff, and there's christmas shopping to be done.
Anyone else so badly organised that they're sending out birth announcements in with the christmas cards? Mind you, dh hadn't even got round to telling some of his mates that we were expecting a baby so they're going to be a bit surprised

Oh bluebear...you won a prize!

I won the car seat - was just saying to dh that we needed to get ds a new one in a few months time. I'm over the moon.

hey.... where are we all? christmas shopping?? wiping bums?.... Things here are okay (still having problems with oap relative....too depressing) but baby wise things are good. Have sucessfully been getting dd off to sleep in her own cot at night and during the day. She has slotted into our routine (student lifestyle, tut tut, but no going to bed by 8pm for this baby) so we all go to bed around midnight, she wakes around 5, then 7.30 for feeds and we stay snuggled up till 10.30...... she seems happiestt with this.... tried earlier bedtime but she refuses... guess she just remembers how things were when preggers. She had her first jabs... was very brave, bit of a cry but then just fine. Shes learning new noises, playing with toys, smiling all the time.... How are you all doing, hope you're all looking forward to baby's first christmas?

Gosh, I know this is going to sound awful but DD2 doesn't do anything so I can never think about what to post here ADs are working a bit I think, but I'm still getting bad days. Anastacia still has a rotten cold, when she breathes a little green worm pops in an out of her right nostril. She is smiling lots and laughing too. She tries to talk, you make a sound she makes a sound you make a sound sort of thing. We haven't got her anything as we didn't think she would notice and money is so tight.

But its a sort of muddling along time in the Pie house

how often are your babies feeding.... I feel like I'm still feeding a lot... like every 2.5 hours some days. At night she will sleep for 4 hours without a feed so thats okay... but during the day its still loads.... and especially in the evening... around 7-8ish...feeds for ages...takes both sides and then an hour later wants more! she is big baby though maybe thats it.

Yep Spod, same here with Anastacia, all the freaking time, apart from the long sleep she has in the afternoon and at night (3 hours afternoon and about 5 at night) otherwise its every 2 hours. Though she is getting faster at feeding.

Not so much at all now - tending to feed at around 7:00 (got to get up then for the school run normally) then at 10:00, 13:00, 18:00 and a big long gap until 03:00. Although obviously this varies a lot. I am starting to put in an extra feed at around midnight, in the hopes that she will then have her long sleep during the hours I am asleep (she normally falls asleep at about 20:30 - just as I am thinking about feding her again!) So 5 feeds normally, sometimes 6 (at the moment since I am waking her at midnight), occasionally 7 if she is still awake after 20:30. But it is down to each feed taking about 30 minutes, so it is SO much better!!!