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MMR - was your child ever the same afterwards?

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sleepyhorse · 05/04/2011 12:22

just wondering what your thoughts are? Feel like my child changed after having it and now nearly 2 years on having problems with ds on the language and social side! Yet to be confirmed if he is autistic. Did you have this combined vaccine and if you haven't yet I would advise going private and getting the single jabs. Don't take that risk!

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SouthGoingZax · 05/04/2011 12:28

We had combined vaccine and our DTs absolutely fine.

There is no evidence of a link between autism and vaccination.

There is a proven link between not being vaccinated and catching nasty, sometimes fatal childhood diseases.

The symptoms of autism often appear / worsen at around the time children would normally become verbal. (ie around the time the MMR is administered). That doesn't mean one causes the other.

Millions of children have had the vaccination with no problems at all.

SouthGoingZax · 05/04/2011 12:28

ps hope your DC is fine, btw.

putthehamsterbackinitscage · 05/04/2011 12:49

my eldest dc had the 1st mmr jab late as had been ill when should have had it - was around 18 months iirc

tbh we were never entirely comfortable about it as I have a family friend whose DD was damaged by immunisation a few years earlier and developed epilepsy and other issues after mmr and will now never live independently

we felt dc was not same after and subsequently had speech issues with sounds that should have developed around age 2, requiring input from SALT during nursery/reception, and does have some social issues now that really became an issue from y5/6 in primary school - academically, no issues, DC is generally top sets and performing extremely well in our local state comprehensive, and doesn't exhibit enough traits to be assessed for ASD

Because of this, we chose not to give the pre school booster and not to immunise dc2 against mmr - dc2 has none of those issues, although both dcs have had all other vaccinations in line with schedule

If you believe you DC has been damaged, I believe the best thing you can really do now is to ensure you get a diagnosis of issues/needs and as much help as is available to assist with developing life skills and coping at school - and get the best information to help you decide about further vaccinations

Personally, I don't feel you will get very far in trying to prove the link one way or the other, nor achieve much by it.... my focus is very much on ensuring my dc has the best outcome from school and is prepared for life in general...

It is unlikely we would ever know for certain what caused these issues, and I am not sure that will help any of us... what matters is that our dc is happy and able to get the most of out life with help when needed

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Octaviapink · 05/04/2011 15:10

Be reassured that THERE IS NO LINK between MMR and autism. I was slightly nervous and did a lot of research around the time dd was due for hers. The one hugely flawed and tiny study (12 children!) that appeared to show a partial link has been comprehensively debunked. Any issues are likely to have been underlying already and simply show up around the same time. The MMR is completely safe and children are far more at risk from these awful diseases than they are from ASDs.

PlopPlopPing · 05/04/2011 15:50

I was worried about it but it caused no problems.

dikkertjedap · 05/04/2011 16:22

Dd is absolutely the same afterwards and she has had two MMR vaccinations so far.

whydididothat · 05/04/2011 16:24

Mine are 11 and 14 now.
No change afterwards from either of them.
One of the best things I have done for them tbh.

TheVisitor · 05/04/2011 16:24

All 4 of my children were exactly the same afterwards.

2BoysTooLoud · 05/04/2011 16:26

I did single vaccines for my first and MMR for my second. Both seem fine.

[No mumps single vaccine still?? My 5 year old who had single vacs had only 1x mumps vac].

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 05/04/2011 16:27

My DS wasn't the same afterwards. He was protected from 3 diseases that can potentially be debilitating and dangerous - so very much improved. Smile

wannabeglam · 05/04/2011 16:28

Just because things happen at the same time doesn't mean they're linked.

A paediatrician told me that he saw cases of regressive autism in children who had MMR, single jabs, no jabs.

There are reasons not to give jabs separately.

The doctor who caused the controversy has, I believe, been struck off the medical register.

For your own sake, try to accept that if your child has autism then the overwhelming evidence points to the fact that you didn't cause it by allowing him to have the MMR vaccine.

virginiasmonalogue · 05/04/2011 16:29

No, all 4 dd's fine. Hope your lo's ok xx

bigTillyMint · 05/04/2011 16:30

DD had it and was the same afterwards.

DS when caught measles before he had it, then I hummed and harred, then he had it and was the same afterwards.

DD didn't catch the measles from DS as she had had the jab.

FIL lost the sight in one eye from having measles as a child.

controlpantsandgladrags · 05/04/2011 16:34

Both my DC have had it and were fine afterwards. The doctor who found the supposed link has been struck off and the "link" has been disproven.

I hope your DC is ok.

MollieO · 05/04/2011 16:35

Ds had a severe allergic reaction to the first one and the GP debated for a long time on whether Ds should have the booster (he did and was fine).

Hope your dc is ok. For those considering single jabs it is important to check that those cover the UK. When I looked into it the single doses would have protected Ds if he was living in Japan but not necessarily here. That is because the UK govt don't licence the separate doses. That was 5 years ago so not sure how uptodate my info is.

ShatnersBassoon · 05/04/2011 16:36

My children have all been unchanged by the MMR.

CatIsSleepy · 05/04/2011 16:39

dd1 and 2 both had the MMR vaccine with no ill effects

mind you dd2 managed to catch german measles recently somehow anyway, which seems a bit weird

StrawberriesAndScream · 05/04/2011 16:43

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ShushBaby · 05/04/2011 17:41

Just taken dd for mmr jab today. Shouldn't have clicked this link.

Pagwatch · 05/04/2011 17:52

Yes actually. Developing in totally routine way. Violent swift regression following his mmr plus gut problems, bowel problems and severe asd.

But to be honest whatever was at the root of his asd makes little difference now. I just do what he needs.

And there is no point in trying to advise others what to do. This is a personal issue. My experience, my sons experience has very little to do with most peoples experience of the mmr which will be no problem at all

Good luck with your ds. [ smile]

twirlymum · 05/04/2011 18:04

No change after the MMR.

ginmakesitallok · 05/04/2011 18:08

Both my DC were totally fine after MMR - there is no scientific evidence to show any link between MMR and autism

NoWayNoHow · 05/04/2011 18:14

My DS is fine. I hope your DS is also fine, but please rest assured that there is NO LINK between the MMR and what may or may not be the problem with your DS.

There are now adults who have had the MMR jabs, so we can reliably see if there is any increase in the occurence of autism since the introduction of the MMR. The percentage of autistic adults now is exactly the same as the percentage of autisitic adults from BEFORE the MMR was introduced.

The Dr who initially propounded the theory had been struck off the medical register. As someone else mentioned, autism tends to start to show itself at around the same time as kids have the MMR jab - this is coincidental and as a result of child developmental milestones and when they occur, therefore making autism more obvious.

I have a lot of sympathy for you and what you must be going through, but to advise potentially susceptible mothers on here NOT to vaccinate their children against potentially fatal diseases is very irresponsibly, IMO.

NoWayNoHow · 05/04/2011 18:15

And OP, shushbaby's post is exactly why you should be careful.

Bunbaker · 05/04/2011 18:23

DD was fine after her jabs. I'm with the majority of the posters on here and choose not to believe sensationalist tabloid headlines. Obviously I thought long and hard about it and obtained medical advice, then went ahead with the vaccine.