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MMR - was your child ever the same afterwards?

126 replies

sleepyhorse · 05/04/2011 12:22

just wondering what your thoughts are? Feel like my child changed after having it and now nearly 2 years on having problems with ds on the language and social side! Yet to be confirmed if he is autistic. Did you have this combined vaccine and if you haven't yet I would advise going private and getting the single jabs. Don't take that risk!

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flippintired · 05/04/2011 18:26

My first was never the sameSad hence none of my others have had it. It's shocking that such a risk is taken with children. No one has any idea whether their child will be irrevocably affected. Awful

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 05/04/2011 18:29

NoWayNoHow - I've just re-read the OP based on your response. So really the OP wasn't interested in hearing about other experiences - just promoting dangerous and outdated myths. Hmm

flippintired · 05/04/2011 18:31

shushbaby shouldn't have clicked then.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

NoWayNoHow · 05/04/2011 18:33

tondelayo, yes it asks for other experiences, but equally the last line of her post reads Did you have this combined vaccine and if you haven't yet I would advise going private and getting the single jabs. Don't take that risk!

That is telling people that there IS a risk, and the only basis she has for that assumption is what her DS is going through now.

flippintired · 05/04/2011 18:37

no, there have been trillions of threads about this very topic with very well read educated and informed mothers who have been happy to link to reports, statistics etc etc which show that it is not 'safe'.
Something that damages even a small minority of children is not safe. If it causes harm, then it is not safe. Whether you take that chance is u to you but to simply dismiss all those people who have children damaged by the mmr vaccine is awful.
My child was damaged, from one day to the next, he was damaged.

FessaEst · 05/04/2011 18:37

DD was absolutely fine after her MMR. She was soooo poorly with chicken pox, I couldn't bear the thought of her having avoidable infections.

MoonFaceMamaaaaargh · 05/04/2011 18:37

shushbaby my ds is 14m had his MMR today too. Please don't worry. As others have said this theory has been completely written off.

The wonderful ben goldacre has done some writing on this that is very understandable. I'd really recommend you google it. I'd link but on phone so can't i'm afraid. Maybe someone else might oblige...

Fourleaf · 05/04/2011 18:39

DS was absolutely fine after MMR. Was worried about it but no problems and it seems that the science all points in one direction. Sorry to hear about your DC OP.

NoWayNoHow · 05/04/2011 18:49

flippintired "something that damages even a small minority of children is not safe". Unfortunately, you simply cannot apply that logic to the world. If that's the case, then we'd never step outdoors.

I'll reiterate the facts from before - if the MMR caused autism, then the incidence of autism in children and adults SINCE the MMR jab was introduced would be higher than the incidence of autism from BEFORE the MMR was introuced. It's not. MMR doesn't cause autism.

If there are other associated risks, then I'm afraid that fits in with most other things we do to protect ourselves. There is a risk of death when going under geeral anaesthetic, but that doesn't mean you don't get the tumour removed/appendix out. There is a risk that seatbelts will really hurt our DC's if we're in a crash, but that doesn't mean we don't wear them.

BTW, I'm very sorry to hear about your DC.

Bunbaker · 05/04/2011 18:50

"Something that damages even a small minority of children is not safe."

The medical profession always weigh up risk factors when giving advice. The risks from not vaccinating are far greater than the risks of the vaccination itself, which is why health professionals usually advise vaccination. Of course there will be exceptions, but each case should be looked at individually. I would advise that if you are unsure then talk to your health visitor or GP before going ahead.

sleepyhorse · 05/04/2011 19:36

Sorry if I have upset anyone on here but just don't want anyone to go through what we are going through by taking that risk. I wasn't saying don't get vaccinated, you can go private and get all 3 single jabs done to protect you against measles etc. I will definitely be making that choice with my second child who is due to have it done in 2 months time. It will at least give me peace of mind.

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pinkhebe · 05/04/2011 19:45

my 11 year old and 8 year didn't change.

nethunsreject · 05/04/2011 19:47

Ds1 was fine, yes.

Ds2 has his next month.

haudyerwheesht · 05/04/2011 19:52

Ds was fine after his mmr and is due the booster soon

Northernlurker · 05/04/2011 19:53

Scaremongering op Angry. I don't give a damn how worried you are, you have no right to come on here and scare people. You don't know what is going on with your ds and you don't know why that is happening.

FWIW all three of my dcs had MMR with no ill effects whatsoever.

thefirstMrsDeVere · 05/04/2011 20:00

4 of my five have had it so far.
All fine aftewards apart from the odd slight fever.

DC 5 will be having it.

I do not beleive that it has a link to ASD at all. I do respect the feelings of those parents who DO believe their children have been affected. ASD is not the only suspected complication/damage but it seem to be the only one that causes interest. To have a child who is developing 'normally' suddenly regress or develop disabilities is heartbreaking.

I think the Doctor who started all this is a dreadful egotist and has caused a lot of distress and possibly the death of children from avoidable childhood illnesses.

Going private is not an option for everyone btw.

GnomeDePlume · 05/04/2011 20:08

My three all the same after as before. They are now 15, 12 & 11 so I guess if there were going to be problems they would have shown by now.

Praline · 05/04/2011 20:10

3 kids, 3 combined MMR's - all fine . Load of bollocks to think otherwise.

hannahsaunt · 05/04/2011 20:27

Argh!!! Have you not read the literature? I mean the proper scientific literature. This makes me so angry. How one man can single-handedly undermine a mechanism for protecting our children is just maddening.

PS 4 children, 4 MMRs, all fine.

CorrieQueen · 05/04/2011 20:30

MY ds was fine, grumpy and irritable for about 10 days afterwards but none of the effects you are talkng about. I do think perhaps these symptoms would have shown themselves with or without the MMR. It's unfair to link the two when so many people are scared of having it done anyway. All the children I know have had the vacination and not one has been adversely effected.

CPtart · 05/04/2011 20:45

Both my DS had the MMR, both fine.

There is no greater incidence of autism in children who have had the combined MMR than those that haven't.

choceyes · 05/04/2011 21:29

No change here.

flippintired · 05/04/2011 21:36

"Load of bollocks to think otherwise." you come to my house and tell me it's bollocks. You deal with my son and tell me it's bollocks.

IwishIwasmoreorganised · 05/04/2011 21:36

OP - apart from the scaremongering, are you certain that you can get all of the components for the 3 single jabs?

Afaik, there have been/are (I've not looked for a while) problems with obtaining the mumps single vaccine.

Instead of just saying this is what you're going to do, try reading some validated literature and make a fully informed decision.

ariane5 · 05/04/2011 21:37

I am too scared to get any of my dc vaccinated with mmr, theyve had all the other jabs but have severe egg allergy and other allergies too as well as underlying health issues.

I panic about their health at the best of times due to their medical conditions but i have heard so much negativity about the mmr that i just cant bring myself to do it (whilst also hoping they dont catch measles, mumps or rubella and get ill from that). Its a very hard choice and i have really agonised over it. They have so many allergies and ds has been unwell after jabs before so i really dont feel i could give them the mmr.