Children being dragged up & neglected next door - feel powerless

[ilovehugs]

I feel so depressed and powerless to help the children next door...

This will be long I'm afraid...

On Tues morning I was woken up by the sound of a child crying at 1.20am. I looked out of the window and there was a tiny child in PJ's, bare-footed on the street ioutside her house in the pouring rain. I ran out of the house and was crying, shivering and very distressed. I rang the doorbell several times and there was no answer. I didn't know her but knew she lived there so i went around the back of the house with her. The french door was wide open and I put her in the house to keep her warm and shouted for about frive minutes. Again, no-oned came and I could hear anouther child crying and roaming around upstairs. I calmed the girl down and told her to go back to bed "whilst I finf out where mummy is". I regret this deeply now and I should of just taken her with me but I was worried that I would be accused of abucting her or something. I closed the door, ran back home and my partner kept vigal on the house incase she came out again whilst I phoned the police. The police bashed on the door for ages but eventually rows the mother by going into her bedroom. They told me that she forgot to lock her backdoor and the girl was soundly asleep in bed.
The next morning, I see the girl and her younger sister, the girl in her PJ's the younger in just a nappy in the pouring rain and cold. I saw a neighbour taking them into her house. Apparently she had found the on the street and no-one was answering the doorbell. I am aware that the letting agency has had complaints about lots of 'comings and goings's and when they investiaged found at the kids were being cared for by a 17 year old boy and were very concerned about the house being kept suitably for children. nighbours have seen the girls come out of a car really crying that had four teenage lads in and no mum. This afternoon the teenage lads and mum were on the park, drinking from a big keg of beer and chain smoking while the girls played on.
ANything could of happened to those girls on both occaisions they were out on the street, freezing cold and scared and no-one new and mum was so disconected from whatever was going on the even hear.
What's happening to those little girls now? I'm so concerned and there should be someone there, now, unravelling the situation and making it safe. They are apprently moving soon because she is having another baby and eligable for a larger house. What will happend then. I know this shit happens but to see it so close and to actually hold a confused, shivering child in your arms, in the darkness in the early hours of the morning...it makes me want to cry. How can you fix this?

I didn't even have to read to the end (though I did), when I saw that a child was outside at 1.20 am. That was enough for me, the rest just sealed it. SS definitely. Please call.

you can tell someone who will investigate. you are not powerless. pick up the phone and call social services or the nspcc.

I would ring SS and see what they say.

I did this when a child (closer to 1 than 2) near me was being left alone in the park for extended periods of time, as I didnt have an address for the child they said to phone the police the next time it happened.

I did, i called on the non emergency number and said i had been instructed to do so by the SS. There were police officers here in 10 min (quicker than when i have called 999, so they took it seriously). They went straight round to childs house and it has never happened again.

Did do earlier. Just gutted to see mum and men friends on the park with the keg beer and fags hours later, apparently oblivious.

ilovehugs - dear god, were the kids with anybody?
keg beer? do they still exist?

Two people. myself included have called social services. They are doing a '7 day assesment'. This morning my neighbour saw two car loads of lads leaving the house. I'vbe only been in the house 30mins having been out all morning and there have been cars of lads and the mum constantly coming and going. Mum sped off down the street with a gang load of lads, I can hear one of them crying now and another bloke has just pulled up. Who's looking after them? I feel like I have front row seats to this ugly crap. Where are social services? Who is dealing with this!

Call SS again ilove, they need to know what's going on.

It isn't your problem to think that SS are not set up for this.

Bloody well call them now and then call the police and keep calling until these babies are take away and looked after.

If you have called the police they would already have contacted SS.

However unless the children are deemed as being in 'immediate danger of serious harm' then they cannot just remove them. SS must first try and work with the mother to improve the situation.

However you and your neighbours should be ringing the police everytime you see the younger ones outside alone so that SS can be made aware of what is going on. Mum is hardly going to tell them.

Keep calling the police, SS and NSPCC every time you see a child left alone, you (and anyone else who cares to notice) are the only voice these children have, make a pest of yourself if you have to.

is your area the sort where you could ask your neighbours to do the same if tehy see the little girls or would they just keep out of it?

Also - make a log of everything you see.

Keep reporting & encourage neighbours to do same. 7 day is an initial assessment. They have decided that things aren't bad enough to remove asap ( has to be v bad to do this) and the assessment will determine Child protection plan & SS help or if there is other services Mum needs. Sounds like it will be CP plan in this case though

Call the police, keep contacting someone and say it is urgent. Keep a note of what you witness and the dates.

Those poor children, God knows what could be happening to them

the girls coming out of cars alone with the men is very worrying. i know it is probably very innocent but it makes me very concerned for these little girls.

you are not powerless
ring social services
log your details with them and ask to be kept informed

not sure if they can or will but I would do that

without a doubt I would ring them asap

I am usually someone who is dead against people snitching on other mothers but in this case:
PHONE. SOCIAL. SERVICES. ASAP!!!!!

Social Services are bloody useless, only good at ruining good homes and good kids!
They have proceedures and papers and forms and there's a task list to go through before they can remove those kids. It's disgusting!

Those poor kids. This country is so messed up, the mother is obviously a slapper and in need of the snip! Not a bigger house to neglect more children in!

I think you need to film these things and that way you have evidence to show SS, that way they cant pretend no one told them.
Record conversations when you speak to them, informing them of the serious situation.

It's heart breaking, those kids are damaged for life because of that slag. If I saw that first hand it would be hard not to knock ten bells out of her!

Mmmmm....how constructive, fyimate

Let's see...

-Slating SS for taking children from their families
-Slating SS for not taking children from their families
-Despair at the state of the country
-Endorsement of forced sterilisation
-Critique of council housing allocation
-Misogynistic terms to describe the mother

And all in eight lines.

fyi, your post should win some kind of prize

fyimate, are you drunk?

I get pretty mad when it comes to neglected children! What can I say? Oh poor, the mother, the lovely woman, most be going through such a hard time? I'm sure she IS lovely given the neglect of her children???

tethersend, shouldnt you be more concerned about the children and not a poster?

yawn....

What can I say? Your post actually impressed me in its idiocy.

It's pretty clear that OP should call SS- I really don't have anything to add to that one.

But your post was a corker.