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MN Little Italy 20 ........Buon Natale !

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Rosa · 20/12/2009 12:58

Here we are then ........

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Sputnik · 06/01/2010 22:15

So are the later series as good as the first? Is it more of the same, r different?

Actually am missing my Wire fix tonight as DS only just went to sleep.

Francagoestohollywood · 06/01/2010 22:18

Ooooh I'll start season 3 tomorrow night.

Francagoestohollywood · 06/01/2010 22:20

Sput, I've only watched season 1 and season 2 and loved them both.
I'm told (by an addicted friend) that all 5 seasons are equally great. His fav are 1-3-5.

Francagoestohollywood · 06/01/2010 22:21

Yes, my ds too sput. I feel your pain. He's a bit agitato by going back to school tomorrow.

SuiGeneris · 06/01/2010 22:26

Agree on the essential quality of books... DH laughs when I translate a saving we have made (for example in switching mobile tariffs) in "x extra books a month" (usu. calculated at 5.99).

But they can be got even cheaper on Amazon if one is prepared to wait 7 days for the supersaver delivery.

On the other hand fennel cannot be got from Amazon, so stuck with extortionate supermarket, which must believe they are interleaved with gold since they package them individually (what a waste of plastic) and sell them at £4 each. Yesterday was the first day that I managed to find fennel loose and at a more reasonable price, but still... This is turning quite Stepford again.

BabySG seems to be getting ready- I am discovering new sensations, not all of them pleasant, which make me think that it must be lower and lower. Obstetrician yesterday said it is definitely engaged- and the right way up- which is relief; did not fancy C-section for breech presentation.

Talking of books again: I am rather enjoying a very light feuilleton that is probably as intellectually stimulating as a telenovela, but quite funny... While looking for a link to add to this message I have discovered most of the papers gave it bad reviews- the most charitable said it was perfect for a winter beach. It was an impulse buy while I was sending my pack of Christmas presents to Italy just before Christmas (briliant courier service, btw: carried box to WH Smith on Tuesday and it was in Italy on Thursday)- not Proust, but then again, it is equivalent to watching TV, isn'it? And more convenient when taking the required two-hour bedrest in the middle of the day... [hides in shame and promises to do better next time]

Francagoestohollywood · 06/01/2010 22:35

what is it? what is it? I love feuilettons!!! Spill the beans SG!

Oh how exciting SG! Not too long then

4 pounds a fennel? Really? Have prices increased so much in the last 2 yrs? . I suppose it's because they are imported. I love fennels!

Sputnik · 06/01/2010 22:36

at price of fennel!
SG, those last few weeks and days of pg are so frustrating, you are doing brilliantly, and light reading matter is definitely the way to go, so what is it you-re reading anyway?

AllQuietOnThePippisFront · 06/01/2010 22:57

yes SG what's the book?

Sputnik · 06/01/2010 23:04

And what is a feuilleton anyway? Sounds like something delightful, perhaps with a chocolate sauce.

TheMysticMasseuse · 07/01/2010 07:02

What are you reading SG???/ come on I'll show you mine if you show me yours (I am, actually ,ashamed of what I am currently reading, whcih doesn't happen often as I am usually fairly omnivorous and unapologetically so....)

Mcnultysexgod · 07/01/2010 08:00

Lol at feuilleton with chocolate....

Yes, what is it SG? What is anybody else reading? I would love a day in bed with a cuppa and my book..

The last few days before a new birth are so special, you are so lucky SG, take good care.

Sorry Franca, I was referring to conversation some time ago about Adelphi books being 20 quid.

Kids still asleep, still not sure whether school is open and whether I should wake them up.

Sputnik · 07/01/2010 08:20

I am about to embark on War and Peace, as I finally got hold of a copy, having just finished He, She and It
Did you finish W&P McNulty? Did anyone else read it in the end?

Mcnultysexgod · 07/01/2010 09:54

Yes, I finished it and loved it, even the war chapters. I had tried a few times before to get into it and failed, so being trapped at home with a baby helped.
Interesting link, thank you Sput.

Francagoestohollywood · 07/01/2010 10:52

Oh yes I agree with McNulty re the last few days of pregnancy. Awwwwww

I have just started reading "The remains of the day", liking it so far.

So what are you reading SG and Masseuse? I'm curious! Sputnik have bookmarked your link.

I've just had an incredibly stepfordy morning. I've filled a bag of the dc's old clothes to give to charity, have sorted the paperwork and tidied up the children art work (meaning that I manage to throw away some drawings, I hope they won't find out!)

McNulty, usually a book that costs 20 quid (and adelphi is 19 euros) has a huge intellectual work behind it, they are usually academic books or art books etc. Also hard backs are re published in paperbacks, even evil adelphi does so and you can buy the same book for around 8 euros if you wait. I wish it was possible to live in a world were all books were incredibly free, but while you can sell a bestseller for 4.99 a copy because you are going to sell sooo many, you can't say the same for other works.

Mcnultysexgod · 07/01/2010 11:27

Ma no, remember Pippi/pinco/lauraingalls wanted to buy Suite Francaise in Italian, but refused to pay 20 euros for it, as she could get it for less than half that in English. Art books, of course yes, should be more expensive.

I am reading Ombre sull'Hudson, which was I think originally a feuilleton in the newspapers. Really gripping and exciting.

Nerese is a character in series 3, you'll see.

I saw the actor who plays McNulty on the telly, shudder, not my type at all.... Like an idiot I expected the character he plays to appear!

Sputnik · 07/01/2010 11:34

Have to admit I don-t find him that good looking, except in odd moments. He has this annoying smirky mouth.

Mcnultysexgod · 07/01/2010 11:46

lol at smirky mouth!!! i find him attractive when he is naked really.

Off to read now, bliss!

Francagoestohollywood · 07/01/2010 11:51

Fair enough. The fact that you can buy suite francaise for less doesn't detract from the fact that the adelphi edition is worth 19 euros, imho (btw, Persephone books are 10 pounds each, so just a little bit less than adelphi... expensive literature isn't just a prerogative of Italy)!

I have to say sputnik that I agree with you... At the moment I have a soft spot for Lester Freamon.

Francagoestohollywood · 07/01/2010 11:52

He has indeed quite a remarkable bum!

Francagoestohollywood · 07/01/2010 12:20

Is that Shadows on the Hudson you are reading McNulty? I read it yrs ago and enjoyed it.

TheMysticMasseuse · 07/01/2010 13:36

i have watched series 3 but didnt come across Nerese??? maybe i didn't catch her name.... will google...

have started series 4.... but got to pace myself now as otherwise it will be over too soon...

anyway, in an attempt to get SG to admit what she's reading, i will confess that i am reading twilight fanfiction online (i started a shameful twilight thread before xmas and it's still going- you see i am perfectly normal, there are others like me , someone linked a few things). there are not enough to describe how i feel about admitting it... basically it's all twilight-inspired stuff but a lot of it is, ahem, a bit on the adult side some of it is very well written though, much more than the originals.

i think i just have a very obsessive personality, see how i got with the wire, and twilight, etc etc... why can't i get obsessed by anything a bit more high-brow? like W&P? i hated that! Granted, i read it while pg with dd1 so perhaps my brain wasn't in it.

btw... personally i think 20 euros for a novel is way too much... i wouild be broke in a month!

minervaitalica · 07/01/2010 13:38

I am not sold on McNulty, either - maybe it's the fake American accent? Do you think they teach that at Eton drama classes? .

BTW, I do think books in Italy are too expensive. I was quoted 20 euros for one of the books in the Millennium trilogy - a paperback (7.99 in the UK I believe!). I did buy it, and then got peeved because the translation was appalling - some sentences did not make sense at all.

Actually, I am noticing more and more that dubbing/translations from English into Italian are often not very good. Some fairly simple sentences are simply mistranslated - it's not even a matter of style or unusual slang! Although I have to admit that the translation of "golden shower" into "doccia leggera" in one episode of SATC still makes me giggle...

Sputnik · 07/01/2010 14:01

BTW, are any of you who don't yet have all 5 series of The Wire interested in swapping at all?
Off out on school run......

TheMysticMasseuse · 07/01/2010 15:03

Minerva, let's speak again about McNulty after you've seen series 2, episode 2 i think it is

agree that the millenium translation are beyond appalling. and ROOOOOOFL at "doccia leggera"! I once watched an episode of Gilmore Girls on canale 5 and it was the most boring, pointless show ever. the wittiness and pace and humour of the script had completely been lost in translation! I honestly don't know how people can bear watching films dubbed in italian, they are awful. and i don't buy into the "ma noi abbiamo una grande scuola di doppiaggio" crap either. perhaps 40 years ago when they only dubbed 30 films a year they did a good job, but now they probably have to do it in a week to churn them out quickly, and it shows...

SuiGeneris · 07/01/2010 16:09

Thank you for all the complete absolutions (?? right word? assoluzione) . Best get on and read all the lowbrow novels before delivery by sound of things...

Delivery which may not be that far away: feeling odd this afternoon. I mean, periody cramps, feeling hot (depite it being almost zero degrees outside, the heating being off and me wearing a T-shirt, cotton leggings and lightweight jumper) and sweaty hands (sorry, TMI, but I usually have ice cold hands and feet). So maybe things are moving? Or maybe it is the yogurt that we forgot in the yogurt-maker overnight (so that it "brewed" for 16 hours instead of 8) and that I had at lunch? Will keep you posted.

I am reading "Past Imperfect" by Julian Fellowes, which I bought despite not having particularly enjoyed his other book (Snobs) a few years ago. But I liked Gosford Park (I think? Nappy brain again), for which he wrote the screenplay. Past imperfect I find quite entertaining, and the asides on how England has changed in 40 years are quite amusing- but maybe more so if you are a foreigner and read it is as social observation rather than a critique, like some of the reviewers did. I did feel like saying to one of the reviewers something along the lines of "FGS, it is a novel, a lightweight one at that, not a restoration manifesto!". Also, the dialogue detail is spot-on and I recognise many of the speech mannerisms, which interests and amuses me too.

W&P: read it a uni and finished it the day before one of our major exams- which maybe explains the rather low mark I got the following day (second-lowest in my academic career, complete with professor saying "and you went to a scientific school?? You should be doing better than this"). Enjoyed it a lot, though I must say I skipped some of the longer battle descriptions.

MM: fan fiction is an interesting concept- must say I only discovered it recently, when we spoke about Bia/Lady Oscar on this thread and I went online to find samples to show DH. Those series too have spawned some rather grown-up fan fiction... And what I found on youtube did not recommend itself as viewing for asilo-aged babySGs...

Would not worry about the obsessive personality. I am the same: once I find a series, writer or subject that I like I read everything in that area. Then something else comes along and maybe I spend another three months immersed in a different subject/era...

Have just bought a new editions of the Philippics, which I saw reviewed in the Sunday Times over Christmas. It is supposed to be one of the best in recent times and I hope that DH will read it too, given there is the English text as well. Maybe this is too ambitious in the other direction- but if the delivery (of the books) does not take ages that might be a chance that I can say to babySG that I was reading Cicero and not Fellowes while waiting for him/her to put in an appearance. My mother apparently read a monster-sized Togliatti biography in the last weeks of being pregnant with me, so I have rather a lot to live up to...

Off to have a rest and read, and see whether the change of position changes the odd sensations above. Will be reading you off the ipod too. Laters!

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