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who decides what/whois middle class?

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drlove8alltheeastereggs · 12/04/2009 18:30

ive always wondered what thats all about! what makes someone middle class?, what exactly is middle class?does it have a wage bracket? say £ 50 000 - 250 000 ? or is it just a load of bollox to make the have a wee bit but used to e skint people feel better about themselves.

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daftpunk · 12/04/2009 18:32

it's a state of mind...nothing to do with money....but having lot's of it helps.

PrimroseHall · 12/04/2009 18:34

So how does the state of mind of the middle class differ from the state of mind of the working class?

daftpunk · 12/04/2009 18:34

and knowing where to put apostrophes...

beanieb · 12/04/2009 18:37

Education, innit.

drlove8alltheeastereggs · 12/04/2009 18:54

education? why beanie? i know very educated chavs...

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beanieb · 12/04/2009 18:58

what makes them Chavs?

DSM · 12/04/2009 18:59

Upbringing, heritage, nothing to do with money anymore though it obviously used to be.

twinsetandpearls · 12/04/2009 18:59

I just know I am not middle class, hard to say exactly why though.

beanieb · 12/04/2009 19:01

I AM middleclass. hurrah!

purits · 12/04/2009 19:01

You are MC if you are worried about what the rest of the world does / does not think of you.
If you don't give a stuffing chuff then you are a chav or an aristo.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 12/04/2009 19:04

Like it, Purits!

KingRolo · 12/04/2009 19:09

It's based on occupation:

abc1 middle class, c2de working class.

But there's obviously more to it than that!

drlove8alltheeastereggs · 12/04/2009 19:16

beanib , re " what makes them chavs?" .. er thinking vicky pollard is a style icon! , trakie bottoms tucked into socks and too much cheap gold jewellery

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tigerdroveoverthebunnies · 12/04/2009 19:16

It's inexplicable but something you sorta know.

If I work through me, DH, and both sets of parents, we cover the gamut of A - E. So where does that put DS?

Maybe where you go on holiday?

DSM · 12/04/2009 19:19

Rolo - I wouldn't necessarily say it was based on occupation, thats quite old fashioned view of lower classes 'serving' upper classes.

I would still apply in some cases, of course, but not all.

brimfull · 12/04/2009 19:20

middle class people decide who's in what class

they are the only class of people who are obsessed with class

DSM · 12/04/2009 19:21

That chart thing also doesn't work for anyone that doesn't work in business.

drlove8alltheeastereggs · 12/04/2009 19:22

right then kingrolo what am i ? daddy is an enginer with several business intrests and mummy is a nurse... i am uni educated and dh was high end management for about 20 years...ex h is an accountant....but i am now a sahm and have prevously worked as barmaid for something to do as i get bored in the house......im NOT mc. im skint!

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drlove8alltheeastereggs · 12/04/2009 19:25

i keep thinking of the catherine tate sketch .... the one she screams "nnoooooo , its the eggs , they're not organic!" ...... so is the consensus thats its all a pile of pants then?

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smallorange · 12/04/2009 19:29

It's all about self improvement. The middle classes are desperate to move up the social ladder while the working/upper classes are too busy just enjoying themselves.

So yes, I think it's a state of mind rather than about income,

DSM · 12/04/2009 19:35

drlove - being skint has nothing to do with it. Its not about how much money you have.

You sound fairly middle class to me.

What kind of house/area did you grow up in?
What did your grandparents do?
Were you taught manners, particularly table manners?
Does anyone in your family own a sovereign ring, or a gold clown necklace?
Where would you go for expensive jewellery?
What are your family parties like? Where are they held?

twinsetandpearls · 12/04/2009 19:36

working class people have manners and dont always have dodgy jewellery.

onadietcokebreak · 12/04/2009 19:43

Blimey that list makes me middle class.....better put the bacardi brezzer and roll up down

Takver · 12/04/2009 19:46

In my mum's immortal words (when pissed off with friend who voted tory)
'No-one who grew up in a pub on the Old Kent Road can ever be middle class, no matter what they think they are'

Takver · 12/04/2009 19:47

And what is a gold clown necklace?