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MN Little Italy 8

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francagoestohollywood · 04/12/2008 13:27

Benvenuti, ciao hello

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francagoestohollywood · 18/12/2008 14:55

argghghghghgh my cake is still in the oven and I need to be out in 15 minutes!

Pippi, men are like that, can't survive at home for more than 2 days when surrounded by kids... (or al least my dh is like that)

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PippiCalzelunghe · 18/12/2008 20:30

uh today I had loads of time in my hands and was bored so I ventured into other threads and was to see how many are about class, openly or not. It is the elephant in the room in england isn't it?

Brangelina · 18/12/2008 21:19

Yes it is, someone even managed to turn a thread bout McD's into a class issue. TBH I think some people have a bit of a chip on their shoulder about others with more, those born as haves are often bleatingly ignorant about those who don't have, then there's the snobbism about the "underclass" from the whole of the rest of society. Imo it's not about class as such, just general ignorance and oft misplaced envy. The same thing exists here and the world over, but they don't put a class label on it.

However, I will admit to disliking the arricchiti, with no taste (as in tacky about life in general) and too much money. Or the finiti borghesi, the ones that try too hard to pretend they're posh and will look down on those less fortunate to make themselves feel better. Unfortunately I know quite a few of those.

Brangelina · 18/12/2008 21:21

Franca, how was the cake?

I still have lots of work to do but am too sleepy. Only mn doesn't send me to sleep. It's crazy, a week before Xmas and suddenly everyone goes mad. That'll teach me for not getting my Xmas shopping done earlier!

ChristmasFlower · 18/12/2008 21:31

noticed that too (too much time on MN when I should really be catching up on sleep)... guess it can take a while for non-British to understand it... at least that's what I've found when talking to non-brit friends/colleagues.

finally got the xmas tree down from the loft, so hopefully I'll put it up tomorrow.

mmmmm, cake, feel hungry now

PippiCalzelunghe · 19/12/2008 08:22

you're quite right brange it's the same everywhere. It's just the obsession with wanting to classify oneself or others into one of three groups that buffles me. as if it could be so easy.

tis true, most of the worlds illnesses come from either envy or ignorance.

this is pippi's morning thought of the day .

Rosa · 19/12/2008 10:43

Well hard Rock is opening in Venice this weekend - I don't care what class should be going ( or not). In January I am going for ribs , chips and a wicked cake for pudding.
When pg in the Uk I wanted a MCD strawberry milkshake - plus you can always find a loo in there !
I think in Italy they do have class status fur coat brigade , SUV brigade, could go on but have to go get dd1 take me twice as long to get over the bridge ...

Sputnik · 19/12/2008 12:56

Agree about the class thing. It seems to me that there's less of it here, but that just might be because I'm less sensitive to it.

So apparently it's the last day at DD's school, I only know that as I met my friend outside the school this morning, she was one of the last to pick up yesterday and was casually asked to bring in a couple of packets of biscuits, they'd only just thought of it! It was the last day for us anyway, as we're off to UK on sunday, yippee!

I am also excited about our possible house in Rome, as DH sounded out the agency on what we're thinking of offering and it looks like we'll put in a formal offer after the feste. It's the house that needs everything doing to it, which would be a lot of fun [masochist]

Sputnik · 19/12/2008 13:03

Come to think of it actually, my Dad spent most of his working life studying class, apparently it has little to do with your actual job, more what your friends do.

PippiCalzelunghe · 19/12/2008 17:10

oh well then I am two different persons whether I am here or in Italy. I like myself much more here .

PippiCalzelunghe · 19/12/2008 17:11

sputnik good luck with house renovation... it's so much fun [wicked emoticon]!

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francagoestohollywood · 19/12/2008 17:23

What your friends do? really? Gosh I must be posh then

Brange the cake: I put a programma sbagliato for the oven, so it wasn't ready for when I needed to leave the house . Luckily there was plenty of cakes for sale. Go back home and put it back in the oven: It was delicious!!! (it's Marslady's LDC. Buonissima!)

Dh took the dc to my parents' 1 hr ago and mum has just rung to tell me dd has a temperature!!! . I in a predicament as I don't know what to do. I'd instinctively go and and get her, but promised sil that we'd go to dinner at hers, as she is been sacked (more or less) and she is feeling really down and in need of some comfort.

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francagoestohollywood · 19/12/2008 17:24

Oh yes, Sputnik wow, this is happening really quickly !!!

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francagoestohollywood · 19/12/2008 17:25

I went back home (i meant)

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hothell · 19/12/2008 20:19

hi everyone. hope your dd is better franca, i would have gone home too, you want your mamma when you are sick!
pippi will email soon about meeting up after xmas, how mobile are you with the 2 kids?
i would love to househunt in rome, very envious.
looking forward to reading your book, borrowed a novel by a guy called alessandro piperno which is quite good actually, about a jewish family in rome.anyone heard of him?
feeing exhausted from being round kids 24.7, but it is fun really.
watching survivors and i find it very good. good looking guy in it which makes it more watchable (horny emoticon}
drinking wine and then move on to cocoa a la de beauvoir

PippiCalzelunghe · 19/12/2008 21:10

Franca I would have gone. nonna is better than mamma at times, at least mine is for sure!

I'd be very posh in italy and very not posh here. like I said sooo sooo much more happy here (although very happy when italian friend lend houses in posh italian resorts !)

Hot how did gomorrah go? finished? you read a lot for one with two kids. how do you do it? I've heard of piperno but don't know where or when.

PippiCalzelunghe · 19/12/2008 21:12

gone out I mean franca.

Penthesileia · 19/12/2008 21:27

So many nativity plays; and baking! Sounds lovely. I don't feel very Christmassy at all... Feel a bit guilty for not making more of an effort, but DD is too little to remember, I suppose.

The class thing is horrid, non? My personal opinion on why it is such a big issue here is because - effectively - the UK "invented" it; after all, the Industrial Revolution began here, so we've had the longest time to entrench the kind of difference that ensued. Having an Empire didn't help either...

Do any of you have presepi? DH is sad not to have one here, and can't find one he likes online. I think we should wait until we're next in Italy to buy one. Not my thing, I must admit (being heathen Protestant by upbringing ), but he seems keen; and actually, I can see how it's the kind of thing a child would love.

Was thinking too that this is a nice thread; there is some mean and mad bitching going on elsewhere!

Baci! (of both kinds, of course!)

(and no, haven't tried the red ones - they look nasty. Fruit & chocolate is wrong, unless it is Green & Black's cherry chocolate).

Penthesileia · 19/12/2008 21:28

Sorry - hope your dd is ok, franca!

Penthesileia · 20/12/2008 08:54

Hmmm - I am wondering what it says about me that the first thing I thought when I saw the Latin 'filler' on the new Mumsnet Test link was, 'ooooh - that looks Ciceronian'. Clearly Mrs. Harris didn't manage entirely to beat a love of Cicero out of me, despite her best efforts [witch emoticon/locked in room until vocab test completed emoticon].

What do you all think of the new site? I'm not sure (looks like handbag.com now, I reckon), but then, I fear change...

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francagoestohollywood · 20/12/2008 09:56

Sorry, the "I went home" was a correction of "go home" in the previous post (in that I finished to bake the cake after the school fete).
No, I left dd with my parents yesterday night, despite wanting really much to be with her, because SIL needed a bit of comfort and she and her dh (my brother) wanted a bit of company to avoid thinking and getting too incazzati over her sacking. She had been mobbed for months
Btw, my mum is absolutely great with ill children, she made her pastina in brodo and fed her, they slept together in the big bed, etc etc.

So, I have another frantic day today, as I had bought tickets to take the dc to the theatre today. I guess only ds will go. Afterwards he and dh will go to Piemonte (where inlaws live) as tonight is the first night of christmas celebrations (big family, lots of celebrations, which I actually am all for). Me and dd will stay put here. I think she has the flu . I'm going to give her a Peppa pig's dvd which I wanted to give her for Christmas, but hey, she needs a bit of cheering up.

Penthe, yes I agree with you with the industrial revolution and the class system. And the Empire.

Hot, I sent the book yesterday, hope it gets there safely. Oh I want to watch survivors too . My parents wouldn't let me watch the original one. If you are into Max Beesley, you need to buy BODIES, which has been one of the best thing I've ever seen. Do not watch it if pregnant though.

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francagoestohollywood · 20/12/2008 09:58

Penthe, what is this MN test thingy??? (too lazy to browse emoticon) I was bravissima in Latin.

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Penthesileia · 20/12/2008 10:05

Poor DD.

Penthesileia · 20/12/2008 10:06

Ta-dah!

Penthesileia · 20/12/2008 10:07

The Latin is mostly nonsense - but is has a Ciceronian 'ring' about it - as I'm sure you'll recognise!

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