Lyra, Oggs, Berrie, Zeb (and Binkle) ....

[oggsfrog]

...... do you realise we've been chatting now for almost 18months .

Berrie, thankyou for the very kind offer to mug your children. It's much appreciated .
Tbh the car only cost £150 last year so it's reached the end of it's days I'm afraid - we need to get another one.

I know the feeling though - I think I've done really well at the shops sometimes, but try as I might I can't get it below £100 a week. Must Try Harder.

Hi Gals,
just a flying visit as I'm in Esporta using their WiFi and have to pick up DS2 from school in a minute. I have no internet at home yet so visits will be infrequent.
Well, we're all moved in. It was hellish (I never want to move again) but we got there in the end, the tenants have moved into our old house (though they moaned about the amount of child scribble on the walls ) so now we just have an entire house to redecorate from top to bottom. Only one room is live-in-able at the moment so busy weekend ahead getting it all sorted out.
Hope you're all well

But the important question is, do you have floors?!

Yikes Lyra, sounds a bit of a nightmare. Hope you get sorted soon.

A chance to let your inner designer out Lyra - I once painted a room in lime green and purple [wince].

How did last nights curry extravaganza go Berrie? You must have subcoonsciously influenced me as we had curry last night too. Do your dc like it? - Dd does, and almost as hot as we have it.

Weirdy question of the day...
Just out of interest does your dh's head sweat when he eats a hot curry, or strong cheese? It seems to be a man thing .

Zeb do you have ds this weekend? Doing anything exciting?

Yes, sweats like you wouldn't believe. My dad always does too.
Yes, DH is bringing DS over this morning. I think I'm going to take him to the beach or something so we can have a good muck about as I have the car for a change.

I went to see Mama Mia last night. Fab!!!! We're now deciding whether to go the singalong one on Wednesday.

Curry very nice thanks.

On the interior design front, have just this minute finished fitting (with a kitchen knife) a very cheap carpet which looked passable in the shop but now in our very white conservatory is horrid. Dh said that if it was a Dulux colour it would be called, 'hint of shit'

Twill have to do.

Hot curry yes, strong cheese no.

LOL Berre. I recommend having a good spag bol and spilling it all over said carpet. Or the remains of your curry.
I'm now debating which beach to visit with DS as I have the car for a change. Once I've tidied the kitchen, put the washing going and done all that domestic stuff.

LOL Berre. I recommend having a good spag bol and spilling it all over said carpet. Or the remains of your curry.
I'm now debating which beach to visit with DS as I have the car for a change. Once I've tidied the kitchen, put the washing going and done all that domestic stuff.

Sorry.

Wish I was going to a beach today .
Dh has just taken dd for her riding lesson so I'm supposed to be cleaning up and starting fires. Must do a load of washing too. All thrilling stuff .

If it helps, the weather's not very nice. We'll probably go to Watergate Bay, get frozen and blown to bits, then come home again for a nice cup of cocaoa.

If it helps, the weather's not very nice. We'll probably go to Watergate Bay, get frozen and blown to bits, then come home again for a nice cup of cocaoa.

Got a problem with your pooter Zeb?

Nope. I'm just a technical moron.
Back from the beach, which was very nice. There were even people out surfing....nutters.

Morning!
You are so lucky being able to go to the beach for the day Zeb! We have missed Cornwall so much this year.

I hope that you got your work done Oggs.

I think that we are all done on the Conservatory front builder wise. We need to paint the skirting board, plumb in the radiator, build a cupboard around the gas and electricity meter boxes and get a table in there.

I had my new anti depressant the other night. I did have it with alcohol which I should not have and it knocked me out good and proper. In the morning I felt most odd. I kept tripping on the stairs and fumbling over my words. I was ravenous too and I had honestly forgotton about the appetite increase side effect. By the afternoon I felt violently aggressive. I shouted at DD and made her cry. I wanted to throw the ironing board through the new conservatory. When dh got home, I asked him to take them out to get them all away from me for their own good. When they were still not back at 6.30, I decided they'd all been killed in a road accident and thought about all the ways that I could kill myself. I'm feeling ok again this morning and I've taken the citalopram today. (Not having had it could account for some of the physical sensations)
I don't want to take it again but I need to do something about my depression. I ought to see the Doctor I suppose but I have never admitted my alcohol problem. Maybe I should try it again without the alcohol and when I don't have sole responsibility for the children before I give up on it or maybe I should just come clean with the Doctor since it is unlikely I can stop drinking.

What do you think?

Oh Berrie, I'm so sorry. This is awful. I think you really really need to see your doctor and get a referral. You must keep taking the citalopram, or whichever, and I'm afraid it sounds like you also need to look at the alcohol as I think this is causing you problems - particularly if you're having such negative thoughts and beginning to fear for your DC's safety.

I know it's really difficult to do, but can you try maybe cutting back on drinking? Just sticking to say, weekends only? If you talk to the doc about it, maybe he can help? I work on the basis that if it's not in the house, I can't drink it.

And you do know that if you ever want to come down to Cornwall, I do have space and spare beds. So even if it's just a couple of days away from everything, to sort your head out, you're more than welcome.

Big big hugs to you all, I'm thinking of you.

Morning all .

Berrie, will have a think. I'll get back to you. On here?

Alrighty. Loads I want to say/ask but don't want to put it all up there for the whole world to see.

Catch 22. You are depresssed so you drink. You drink so you are depressed.
It's usual to deal with the alcohol first as this may relieve the depression.
You need to speak to your Dr and come clean. She is trying to deal with something that is being directly affected by something she's not aware of.
The medication for the depression can be compromised by the alcohol.
Your liver may be damaged through alcohol and therefore cannot deal with the AD's effectively, leading to a higher concentration in the blood which can exacerbate the side-effects.

You can get through this. We will be here for you.

Well said Oggs. We're here with you Berrie. So anything you need, we'll help.

Thanks you two. It's nice to be able to talk to you on here in a way that I can't with other people. Lots of people know about the depression but not the drink and I would never talk about suicidal feelings to anyone. Dh knows it all though. I am deeply ashamed of the drinking. I don't consume vast amounts, no spirits didden under the bed etc but I do drink every night.

I suppose I don't want to 'officialise' the drinking by mentioning it to a Doctor. I have been referred twice each time I was pregnant and I did tell the first how much I drank (not whilst pregnant) To be honest, because I am not making suicide attempts, hurting myself or others, they were not really interested in me. They reviewed me now and then rather than do anything to help.

The children are not physically at risk Zeb though I can see it reads like that. I apologised to both of the for being 'grumpy' DS said he didn't mind but dd said nothing. They are fine this morning.

I suppose I'd have to have a liver function test. I think I could go and talk to the Doctor if dh came with me. He's in the same boat anyway. There is no way they're looking at my liver without looking at his! Right...going to enquire about appointments now.

Good Luck Berrie

Yes. Good luck.

November 6th