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[Rosa]

Ciao - Everybody Welcome.

I should have known I'd have to pay for my lazyness: childminder called - DD has vomited her weekly food intake in front of a pancake! must go and pick her up. I have wizz-cleaned in three second.

Lol, that happens to me all the time. I must be very sinful.

I cannot even believe how lazy I am today... cannot even be bothered to eat (and that is a first!!!!!).

I think once I collected DD I'll try to convince her to cuddle up in bed!

bran have you decided on the holiday?

Not yet. I was thinking of going to France with sis and family but all the villas and gites have been prebooked by the Brits from last summer.

So now it's back to Greece or somewhere in Italy, which usually costs more than going abroad. The advantage of going to Greece is that we can get some windsurfing in but would have to drive with all the kit. If DP is coming of course, if not il problema non susiste...

I am always lazy. I now worry about what I'm going to do when it starts getting busier at work and I'll actually have to leave early in the mornings.

I am half way waiting for childminder to call so I'll be forced to move. (I did find the energy to eat though : crumpets and cheese spread...)

greece anytime.

i put my clothes in the washing machine, but haven't had the energy to put in the detergent, choose the program, etc. Still sleeping for England, beginning to worry it will never end, and how can i cope with a baby. Super depressed today. I like the idea of crumpets....maybe with nutella...Did my hair last night and it has come out really orange, the front with blond bits. horrible indeed.

great to hear from you hhell.

an advice: never ever do anything to your hair when pg except for basic trim (and even that with caution). you always end up upset and feeling the ugliest woman on the planet whose husband will rightly leave for a younger and more attractive model who wears make up at times, brushes her hair and does not sleep all day .

Hi all
HAD FORGOTTEN WAS PANCAKE DAY!!
need to make some for after secondo.
Are you getting used to hair hhell?
Off to toss pancakes mmmmm and see if still have some golden syrup in cupboard yum

Ok so I am BACK ....It weas only 2 weeks but 2 great weeks and I have montains of washing to do and dd is discovering her toys . DH has rushed off to the cantiere so all normal .We are now tlaking about the next holiday but I think I will have to go back to work to pay for it as this one ended up costing a fortune..but every penny well spent we think . Even the Euro 14 yes 14 for 4 personnaggi of Pockoyo ( little plastic ones !!) Dh managed 2 massaggi and imersioni and I only managed to spend money on dd and a portofoglio for me mmmm Well its my birthday soon so think I will just have to have a look round here!
Earnest so Munich its a lovely place not just of the beer festival !Hope it all goes well for you.
Pancakes oh well so that means its lent now what shall we give up ??
Right 1st bucato pronto ...Ci vediamo presto guys

welcome back rosa. I missed you.

I'm so envious of your holiday. DH and I went to the canaries 2 weeks after we met: it was idillic (strange word to use re: tenerife but when in love...)

yes what shall we give up for lent?

Was it only 2 weeks? At least you haven't come back to the rain - here it's lovely and sunny, is it the same in Venice?

We had pancakes last night too, only I hadn't planned properly and there was nothing to fill them with. We ended up using grated provolone piccante and sugo, then pear with molasses. Not very inspiring. I really must get some shopping in, all I have in the fridge is some tofu and chocolate.

Lent - what to give up? I can't think now, my fridge is too empty. Possibly chocolate as I seem to have developed a heavy habit since DD was born, but it will be very difficult with DP who regularly buys up the entire chocolate aisle at Lidl.

It is a sunny day here as well and my fridge looks a bit healthier than last night e.g milk left my MIL and that was it ! Heard it has been a bit grey and wet .
Lent I don't eat that much chocolate and I dont keep it in the house apart from dd kinder ! so I guess I should give up merendine ( dd left over bits) and the odd biscuits. Or maybe bread ??? Should do something drastic to make up for the excess of everything else I have eaten !

I really want to give up smth. I have not done ti since I was a kid but I remember it was so rewarding in the end, although really hard. we always gave up chocolate or sweets in general I think. Maybe we'll do the same. although i was thinking along the lines of something more grown up... but what? can't go clothes shopping, cannot drink, don;t smoke anymore, what's there to give up????

went to shop and bought monkfish as dh loved it ... how expensive is it? 16pounds for two fillets !!! maybe I should give up that.

can you tell me what does a 'tracciato' do?

Girls I need some advice.
Tried to book a cvs with my midwife for 11 weeks, she was a bit shocked that i would want it before the screening tests of 12 weeks (nuchal fold and blood test). The thing is the screenng tests are never 100 percent, and i would want a cvs to know for sure that the pregancy is healthy, and as early as possible so that it is 'easier' to decide what to do if there are problems. She wasn't impressed, and I was really pissed off. Did you have a cvs before the nuchal fold, or after, or because the first scan showed some potential problems? It seems to me that in Italy everybody over the age of 35 gets a diagnostic test done.

I never had anything done because I am under 35 and because I wasn't informed enough to ask.

Do not let them bully you Hhell. This bloody NHS always tries to save money and do the least possible. If that's what you want do not hesitate and do it, you have thought nit through and have good reasons.

like I said I have a splendid miidwife that does not make me feel like a paranoid idiot when I ask where I could have a 3rd scan done privately or about strep b. all the other treated exactly like yours did. and to think all the things you get done in the continent as a routine...
as you can see it makes my blood boil!!!!!!

The bloody midwife called my hospital to find out about cvs procedure and described to the person on the phone as 'particularly anxious!'
Funny thing i was also was going to ask about strep b as there was a big poster behind the midwife's head, luckily kept quiet, bloodly hell

described me

I apologise in advance for all the nice midwives out there but some of them should consider a career change and become bus drivers or something. re strep b there's a website and they'll do the test for you privately (you take the swab yourself and send it by post). have not enquired yet how much it is - don't think much - and whether is reliable or not.
I might be in italy in which case I'll do it there.

anxious??? I think all of us who have babies in here must be close to a zen-like state with such little care we receive.

Hhell, don't bother with the nuchal fold if you need certainty. Here they offer the CVS or amnio as a matter of routine for all women over 35. My gynae told me there was no point doing the nuchal and blood screening if I was intent on the CVS.

I think in the UK everyone's a bit squeamish about antenatal testing, in Italy they're more matter of fact about such things. Just insist and cite cultural differences, or tell them there is a history of chromosomal abnormalities in your family so you need to be certain. Invent a first cousin with problems or something.

Insist on the strep B too, here it's the norm. Did you have your DS in the UK or Italy?

Got to go, DD's finished her poo.

Hhell, defintely push them and idea re family problems is a good one. I think it's disgusting how they make you feel as if you are being over anxious. I think I said before on this thread that I spent most of my pregnancy with DS in the UK. When I went to Italy for the last 2 months the gyno, doc etc couldnt believe how poor the care was in the UK and rushed through a zillion other tests. Its easy to say stand up to them because they make you feel pathetic but defintely push on what you want. Strep B's an important test,only cheapo NHS that doesnt see it that way. I remember at 1 stage my UK midwife pointed out that women have "been doing this since time began" when I asked if I would be ok to go on holiday at 8 mths to Puglia-cow!.
Off to get DS off to bed, DP is out and so I have fed DS pizza bianca and fish fingers so better clear the guilty evidence of the floor!

Agree with all that has been said Hot . You do what you want to do and ignore the raised eyebrows or comments . I think I had strep B a few weeks before the birth and the ticket wasn't that much ..I can't remember the 'monitors being Euro 36 for like 4 or something and thinking thats a bit steep !!
As and when No 2 decides to make a start I will do all again over here apart from if I am in the Uk and need anything but will take list from my Italian doctor and say I would like this please and if they say no then I will go private....
LOL at Pizza Bianca and fish fingers my dd won't touch the things and I have tried !!!!

my dh was out as well and dd and I had prown cocktail and pizzetta rossa !

mmm prawn cocktail, delicious.
ho gia inventato parenti con vari tipi di cancro to speed up being seen, it really works. will deffo follow your advice.
i think here in the uk they see pregnancy as something natural that does not need medicalisation, whereas i think it does, because something can go wrong, and when it is your child it ruins your life.
there is this top guy at king's hospital who invented the nuchal fold test, and he would be the one to see for a cvs, but very expensive for us at the moment, about 550 quid, phew. the midwife even dared saying yesterday that as long as i stay relaxed i will have a wonderful pregnancy and natural birth. wtf? i want some tests done and then i will be relaxed.